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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:17 am
by Hiraki
Mist7676 wrote:Ok I said that because since we are apperently getting no where right now I thought we could no lynch but starting now I will stop trolling. I will be taking this seriously. This thread is now Bookmarked so I'll be checking often.
So you're admitting to trolling?

Is this a fucking joke?

There's two ways to take this. 1, Mist is agreeing with the town that he's trolling(SCUM), or Mist was actually trolling and wants to try and play now(Neutral, but just pissed me off)

Mist needs to die. And you all know it.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:46 am
by KageLord
Nero Cain wrote:
Steven Hacking wrote:Hi Everyone in Simpson's Mafia land, why are we getting so fixated on the flavor? I honestly don't think focusing on flavor will get us very far. The Simpsons has run for 20+ seasons, do you really think that through all of those story arcs there are characters who are plainly "good" or "evil?" And that's not even mentioning all the Halloween episodes, which fans of the series will know aren't considered cannon, but at the same time do provide a wealth of possibilities, none the least of which include alternate dimensions, evil twins, doctors who practice medicine w/o licenses... etc. I've watch most of the early episodes until the show started to slip, just to be clear. Anyway, how abouts we get back to the scum hunting?
Theme game=flavor. If flavor didn't matter in a theme game whats the point of making it themed? I do agree with that's there's alot of possibilities b/c the show has ran for a long ass time but I'm fairly sure that certain characters will fit along their alignments such as that guy that stalks Bart would deff be mafia.
Someone (I think rib) mentioned that they have flavor reason based on their role to believe that the kids are scum in this game. Otherwise, Sideshow Bob would be a good scum role candidate. Also, the most obvious one... Fat Tony (for those that don't watch the show, he's the head of the Springfield Mafia).

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:50 am
by Mist7676
Sorry I'm not giving links to offsite games except to mod. Also yes I'm an alt of someone here on the site. I just did a little trolling to drop hints. Can you guess??

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:01 am
by Mariyta
Mist7676 wrote:Sorry I'm not giving links to offsite games except to mod. Also yes I'm an alt of someone here on the site. I just did a little trolling to drop hints. Can you guess??
We are NOT doing this again, so knock it off. Jesus H. Christ. Why can't people just freaking play mafia instead of playing little "guess who I am" games to waste everyone's time and distract from the game????

UNVOTE: , VOTE: Mist For being a freaking tool.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:10 am
by ribwich
Mod, could you edit the first post to show who was originally in the slots that got replaced? It makes it a lot easier to remember who the replacements are.


Mist, just stop. It was bad enough when Fuzzy Beavers started pulling this stuff at the beginning of the game. We don't need someone else providing distractions when we're 5 days away from deadline.

Certainly

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:35 am
by Wraith
Mist is just a distraction and not worth the lynch. TBH I don't like that Hiraki is trying to divert the wagon on him to Mist.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:36 am
by Hiraki
Wraith wrote:Mist is just a distraction and not worth the lynch. TBH I don't like that Hiraki is trying to divert the wagon on him to Mist.
Mist is Gudierian. Just sayin'.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:42 am
by DemonHybrid
Unvote, Vote: Hiraki

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:42 am
by Tragedy
If the point of 'tool' is attempting to avoid a lynch onto a specific person, then it appears Mist/tvellalot has been being the obvious lynch bait.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:56 am
by Hiraki
DemonHybrid wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Hiraki
I don't think you get why I'm voting Mist. There is no town motivation in Mist's actions. Guiderian looks scummy.

You connect the dots.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:59 am
by LlamaFluff
DemonHybrid wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Hiraki
You are making a handfull of assumptions here to justify this vote. Also if you are taking the path I assume you are taking, Mist is the lynch, not Hikari.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:17 am
by Deer
Mariyta, what changed from "not necessarily scum" to OMG I'M GONNA VOTE MIST CAUSE HE'S TROLLING?

Also, Hiraki's vote feels really phony. He's obviously trying to divert the wagon.

There's no town motivations for Mist's actions, but anti-town =/= scum. It happens all the time.

unvote, vote: Hiraki


and Mariyta isn't far behind.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:21 am
by DemonHybrid
For the record, I think that Mist is a complete derp and Guderian just didn't care. However, Mist is outing the opportunistic players left and right without even knowing it.

You need to be able to tell the scummy players from the ones that don't give a fuck. If there's a vig, shoot Mist if you like, but there is absolutely no denying that Wraith is 100% right in proclaiming how fishy Hiraki is being with Mist.

Mist may be a lynch, but not for today, and those that can't wait for more information from Mist deserves to die.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:24 am
by diddin
Do I need to explain again why Hiraki's last 3 posts are scummy?

unvote, Vote:Hiraki

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:25 am
by diddin
DemonHybrid wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Hiraki
^Stop this shit, Jesus Christ. Here, we explain our votes in the posts we make them.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:25 am
by DemonHybrid
You know what also is funny, Hiraki?

You are not voting Mist.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:27 am
by DemonHybrid
Derp, you're voting Guderian who IS mist.

You know, it'd be awesome if I stop playing while half asleep.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:33 am
by diddin
Hiraki wrote:First off, I'd like to apologize for being inactive for awhile.

Second. Unvote, Vote: Gudierian

Your vote looks a bit too opportunistic to me.
^This was Hiraki's original reasoning for voting Guderian. Later in the post he posted a whole wall of suspicion on me and others. I don't like how he's just now adding more reasoning for his Mist/Gud vote.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:54 am
by jasonT1981
OK, Checking in. I think everything that has gone on this past week has been sorted. Going to catch up at some point before tomorrow afternoon. been skimming before the game kicks off and seen some rather weird behaviour from quite a few that is alarming. but will comment more on that when I get fully caught up

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:06 am
by Nero Cain
For the record I think there should be some rule against this. Its really distracting and annoying for someone to come in and NOT play (or joke around) like Mist is doing. I guess you could say its against the play to your wincon but if he's scum/3rd party then he's not. He needs/lynch replacement.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:30 am
by Steven Hacking
I still think tvell is scum, but there's absolutely no movement on him. It doesn't help that his 24 hour v/la has gone on for 3+ days.

Unvote


Honestly, I really didn't like how the Kage wagon started. Some votes, starting heavily with the "rolefishing darla" argument, followed by some other votes that felt alot like sheeping. After reading the rolefishing post, I have to agree with Kage that it didn't seem like explicit rolefishing. Coaching at best, or trying to be/appear, helpful and experienced.

That said, under further scrutiny. The jumping on little things like "backtracking" or accusations that "shouldn't be taken lightly" seem to be the closest thing to scumhunting he's done. The pushing for the VI policy lynch relatively early in the day seems lazy at best.

Also, I really don't like his waste of a gigantic post on tvella's iso. I generally hate the posting of iso's when the majority of the information in them is irrelevant and useless. The whole post seems to be a vehicle in order to support tvella and defend tvella's vote. Which is really interesting because he is effectively defending his own vote by proxy, as they are both on the Darla-VI wagon.

What's more is that while they're both voting for DVI they're voting for very different reasons. tvella makes arguments that he believes actually make Darla scum, while Kage seems to be leaning more to the policy-lynch VI argument more than the she's actually scummy argument. The whole thing seems to be trying to use tvell as some sort of support, (which is just sad.) But while their what's are the same, their WHY's are completely different, which makes the whole argument weak.

The ridiculous number of qualifiers he uses in the posts he finds strong/agreed with also threw up a red flag. Kage "can't argue with his conclusion," "see
nothing wrong with this post," finds "his [defense] isn't bad," "[he's] not so scummy" and concludes that tvella "kind of changed [Kage's] mind." If you felt so strongly, why bother posting that wall in the first place?

Vote: Kage


Other news:
Mist is useless but not worth a vote.

My discouragement of focusing on flavor was with respect to discussion at the time (context). Flavor chat had derailed actual scumhunting, was mostly speculation, and was going nowhere. Why don't we wait until it's actually useful?

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:38 am
by Mariyta
Deer wrote:Mariyta, what changed from "not necessarily scum" to OMG I'M GONNA VOTE MIST CAUSE HE'S TROLLING?
It was an irritated, irrational vote. I'm just sick of the guessing games and the bullshit people pull into MS. I just want to play the damn game without all the drama and hoop jumping.

UNVOTE: Mist, VOTE: Hiraki

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:54 am
by Wraith
Mist is prime vigbait people. Ignore him(/her/it?)

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:08 am
by Mist7676
Her

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:31 am
by Scott Brosius



Vote Count 16

Benmage(0)-
boberz(0)-
DarlaBlueEyes(5)- KageLord, boberz, tvellalott, jasonT1981, SensFan,
Deer(0)-
DemonHybrid(0)-
diddin(0)-
Fuzzy Beavers(0)-
hiraki(9)- Benmage, ribwich, DarlaBlueEyes, Wraith, Mist7676, DemonHybrid, Deer, diddin, Mariyta,
jasonT1981(1)- Nero Cain,
KageLord(6)-Fuzzy Beavers, The Fonz, sottyrulez, LlamaFluff, Tragedy, Steven Hacking,
LlamaFluff(0)-
Mariyta(0)-
Mist7676(1)-hiraki,
Nachomamma8(0)-
Nero Cain(0)-
ribwich(0)-
SensFan(0)-
Sleepless Assassin(0)-
sottyrulez(0)-
Steven Hacking(0)-
The Fonz(0)-
Tragedy(1)-Sleepless Assassin,
tvellalott(1)- Nachomamma8,
Wraith(0)-


Not Voting(0)-

With 24 alive, it's 13 to lynch. Deadline is January 28th at 1pm (EST)