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You've been pushing for lucky's death for a long fucking time...

That's the point. You've been saying Lucky is scum since you joined, you've kept him as your 'go to vote' for pretty much that entire time. But when it comes down to it, it takes shit all to get you to unvote. Your vote on CSL? "OMG CSL is replacing out, vote: him". Your vote on Mal, pure deadline vote. your vote on Iceguy? Who the fuck knows what that's about. I suppose he's the only arguably reasonable vote you had, but you've been pushing Lucky for a long time yet seem to lack mention of him until I start up the wagon...

You've been pushing Lucky for a long time, and you've been calling Glass town for a long time, and nine posts ago you abandon a Lucky vote to vote Glass's replacement for, what reason was it? "I changed my mind"? You spent a long, , time just to change your mind.

You've been pushing Lucky's death for a long... ... time... And from my point of view you're full of shit. Tell you what, let's lynch you. And if you happen to flip town I'll do you a favor and reevaluate my findings. Don't like that idea? Awww... Oh well. *snaps fingers*

*shakes head*

I find the argument 'I can't be his partner, I pushed for his death' to be moronic. find it to be moronic... How terrible is that?

Voided wrote:Also, while I feel the reason is contrived as hell, Feirei "replaces" CSL (and I say that in quotes because they're the same person).

Can I replace myself? If CSL gets to do it, I think we should all be allowed to replace ourselves...

From now on, I'll be known as Korlash. Don't get confused and call me by my old name 'cause I'll know... I'll know and get upset... >.>

Mommy, that guy is creepy...
I know Susan, let's walk away...

Guys let more votes come my way so I can get an idea on who is scum.

And yeah the Amrun and Lucky team seems to be the worst team pairing I can see but you go and believe that.

@Korlash, I might not like how claim business went with Amrum, but I'm leaning town on her.

@Om, You got something to say? I'm leaning to see you as the only person I might agree to lynch today and sad thing is Glass was my top town read.I can't even argue against your lynch anymore.
Your play style is heavily contradicting to that of what I've seen before.

@Lucky, your last few posts made no sense.

Lucky is town. He was as reactionary on page 2 of the cached pages when votes were being thrown his way in the same manner. This is not some sort of spur of the moment gambit as it is consistant with earlier play.

Korlash, 'juvenile' refered to you pinning me as suspicious for a 'smelt it, dealt it' type argument. I'm saying that Amrun not dying is the strongest reason to disbelieve his claim out of the myriad others (including many that you have brought up, including Amrun's most recent 'I changed my mind!' post ). THAT SAID, I am not willing to lynch him without a counterclaim. It may well come tomorrow when a cop will have 2 results and be more effective.

OotN's reasoning is not all that bad if you think about it, but it's definitely wrong in this case. People like Iceguy posting a Gif to sarcastically call out bad play and let others interpret it is scummy.

actiondan wrote:Lucky is town. He was as reactionary on page 2 of the cached pages when votes were being thrown his way in the same manner. This is not some sort of spur of the moment gambit as it is consistant with earlier play.

So? All that means is he knows it gets him out of trouble when he does it.

Actiondan wrote:Korlash, 'juvenile' refered to you pinning me as suspicious for a 'smelt it, dealt it' type argument. I'm saying that Amrun not dying is the strongest reason to disbelieve his claim out of the myriad others (including many that you have brought up, including Amrun's most recent 'I changed my mind!' post ). THAT SAID, I am not willing to lynch him without a counterclaim. It may well come tomorrow when a cop will have 2 results and be more effective.

You've essentially said nothing here. And instead of arguing why I'm being juvenile for using the so called 'smelt it, dealt it' argument, you just say I am and brush it under the carpet.

@iStark: Something to say about what? I'm kinda clueless as to what to do right now. I'm not myself because the amount of actual pages I had to read had been larger than I expected, and I think it kinda drained my motivation a bit.

↑ Om of the Nom wrote:@iStark: Something to say about what? I'm kinda clueless as to what to do right now. I'm not myself because the amount of actual pages I had to read had been larger than I expected, and I think it kinda drained my motivation a bit.

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Then I've no choice but to vote and lynch you right now.

VOTE: Om of the nom

I can try, but I can't guarantee I'll be doing my absolute best.
I'm only able to perform at my absolute best when I'm completely on top of the game.

Korlash, it's like you don't think about what you're saying at all.

I know I've been on lucky all game. As scum, what reason do I have to conspicuously change my mind? Why should I be purposelessly inconsistent?

You're not thinking about intent.

@Stark - Explain your vote.

Amrun wrote:Korlash, it's like you don't think about what you're saying at all.

I know I've been on lucky all game. As scum, what reason do I have to conspicuously change my mind? Why should I be purposelessly inconsistent?

You're not thinking about intent.

I never think about intent because in an argument it's irrelevant. Why would scum be inconsistent? To argue why they would be inconsistent as scum. We'll go around in circles forever. lets keep the argument to facts.

How has all of the time and effort you've put into Lucky since replacing in been wiped clean so quickly? Why do you think what he is doing isn't likely to come from scum? How is Om's response to that so much it overrules your former townieness vibe from Glass?

I already said. I simply don't think luckyjt is experienced enough to pull that sort of gambit as scum and know what kind of reactions it would receive. He's completed one newbie game, and really reads as a newbie. I don't think he has the confidence or the competence (yet) to try and manipulate people's reads like that.

Like I said, with Glass, Glass wasn't my top town read and did not even make my top 3 - still, I leaned town on him. I had reasons for misgivings, which I noted, but that post of Om Nom's really blew me out of the water as being SUPER SCUMMY opportunistic.

What do you mean, didn't this happen once already early day one? That's proof enough he KNOWS what can happen if he pulls it. A newbie scum that gets run up early day one can easily pull the martyr play without even intending to manipulate anything.

So yeah, if he did pull this during his first wagon, he certainly is experienced enough to know what kinds of reactions it would receive. Of course, this would be relying on AD for his assessment of Lucky's play early on. (I certainly don't feel like going back into the cached pages :\)

↑ Rainbowdash wrote:@Stark - Explain your vote.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p3958660

He didn't give explanation for what I was looking for nor is he playing to his usual town meta.

If my vote is what takes him to give what I want/expect from him then I will vote obviously?.

What exactly were you looking for?

Also I explained why I wasn't playing to my current town meta. I'm actually playing to my original town meta, and Dan can verify that.

Well not so much "playing to," but more like "ending up."

↑ Korlash wrote:What do you mean, didn't this happen once already early day one? That's proof enough he KNOWS what can happen if he pulls it. A newbie scum that gets run up early day one can easily pull the martyr play without even intending to manipulate anything.

So yeah, if he did pull this during his first wagon, he certainly is experienced enough to know what kinds of reactions it would receive. Of course, this would be relying on AD for his assessment of Lucky's play early on. (I certainly don't feel like going back into the cached pages :\)

Wait, he self-voted Day 1? I'm fairly certain this didn't happen. I read the whole thing in detail and do NOT remember that...

If that's true, then you're right, though.

↑ Om of the Nom wrote:Also I explained why I wasn't playing to my current town meta. I'm actually playing to my original town meta, and Dan can verify that.

You don't "play to a town meta" as town. You just ARE TOWN. The fact that you were self-conscious enough about this word choice to correct it tells me that you revealed too much.

I corrected it because I'm not deliberately playing to it this time, I just can't help it. Normally I play to my old town meta when I am scum, but I'm town this game.

Amrun wrote:Wait, he self-voted Day 1? I'm fairly certain this didn't happen. I read the whole thing in detail and do NOT remember that...

If that's true, then you're right, though.

No, I don't believe he self voted day one. But he didn't self vote today either.

Amrun wrote:You don't "play to a town meta" as town. You just ARE TOWN.

This, I like this. I want this on a T-Shirt.

↑ Om of the Nom wrote:Also I explained why I wasn't playing to my current town meta. I'm actually playing to my original town meta, and Dan can verify that.

Your lack of input on Amrum case on D2 when we were clearly tunneling and wasting our time doesn't seem town motivated.
All you said that is ''Amrum claim is legit'' and basically walked away from it instead of defending when you clearly know whats the case don't you?
That and this not being your town meta (whether you are playing intentionally or forced) is leading me to believe you're mafia investigative PR.
And looking at your result & lack of input on Amrum's claim possible mafia cop.

@Korlash, stop tunneling ffs.

↑ Korlash wrote:No, I don't believe he self voted day one. But he didn't self vote today either.

Yes, he did. o.O What?

Guh, I didn't want it to come to this, but I have role related info that makes me think Amrun's claim is legit.