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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:10 am
by chesskid3
After a long night, you awake to find another of your number gone.

Your fearless leader,
Spartacus
, inte, has been brutally murdered, his throat slit at night.

Your morale shaken at the results of the previous nights duel and then this, you grimly get back to the task at hand.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Code_X requested replacement overnight. Searching for one now.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:00 am
by Apple Jack
Not who I would have expected for sure.

Gotta re-read now

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:31 am
by MattP
Who did you expect?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:59 am
by inte
Wow really

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:13 am
by PeregrineV
Vote1: Code_X


Pietros was my lover (not the mafia definition, but the gladiator one).

We were neighbors to me, masons to him. Together we had power, now we have none.

Vote2: Defender


For killing my lover and being scum.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:34 am
by Apple Jack
MattP wrote:Who did you expect?

honestly? me

Inte was one of the scummiest players day 1


PeregrineV wrote:
Vote1: Code_X


Pietros was my lover (not the mafia definition, but the gladiator one).

We were neighbors to me, masons to him. Together we had power, now we have none.

Vote2: Defender


For killing my lover and being scum.



I actually don't disagree with either of these votes but i am confused, what do you mean by "neighbors to me, masons to him" and what was the power you had?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:49 am
by PeregrineV
Apple Jack wrote:
MattP wrote:Who did you expect?

honestly? me

Inte was one of the scummiest players day 1

inte was also spartacus. According to the (flavor-thought-mechanic) anyone fighting him is bound to lose. Scum swings odds in their favor by killing town Spartacus.


Apple Jack wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:
Vote1: Code_X


Pietros was my lover (not the mafia definition, but the gladiator one).

We were neighbors to me, masons to him. Together we had power, now we have none.

Vote2: Defender


For killing my lover and being scum.



I actually don't disagree with either of these votes but i am confused, what do you mean by "neighbors to me, masons to him" and what was the power you had?


I was given the possibility he was traitor, making him a neighbor. In the QT, he expressed nothing of the sort, acting as if we were masons.
Our power was together we could do something non-vanilla. What it was is now irrelevant, and will remain hidden to root out fakeclaims.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:52 am
by mafia-n00b
VOTE: 1. PeregrineV
VOTE: 2. D3f3nd3r

I still think D3f is scum, and the plot-based claim by Peregrine is rather suspect.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:55 am
by MattP
Derpy, did you look over my arguments on Dr?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:03 am
by PeregrineV
mafia-n00b wrote:VOTE: 1. PeregrineV
VOTE: 2. D3f3nd3r

I still think D3f is scum, and the plot-based claim by Peregrine is rather suspect.


Excellent, since you are agreeing with my vote and suspecting me at the same time, please elaborate on how my claim is suspect.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:05 am
by Apple Jack
MattP wrote:Derpy, did you look over my arguments on Dr?

not yet, I did very little (like almost none) re-reading during the night phase.

I plan on re-reading soon

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:17 am
by D3f3nd3r
Hey Messiah (Matias's replacement), can we get some reads and stuff from you?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:25 am
by mafia-n00b
PeregrineV wrote:

Excellent, since you are agreeing with my vote and suspecting me at the same time, please elaborate on how my claim is suspect.


I wouldn't characterize it as "agreeing" with your vote, since my vote on D3f has nothing to do with yours... but to answer your question:

It's a very convenient claim. If it were true, it'd make you conftown. There's also no way to confirm it. The fact that it relies on a plot-driven connection between the characters make it even worse because it gives it an air of legitimacy that I feel is unwarranted.

So, basically, it's as perfect a claim as a scum could make. That's suspicious to me.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:31 am
by PeregrineV
mafia-n00b wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:

Excellent, since you are agreeing with my vote and suspecting me at the same time, please elaborate on how my claim is suspect.


I wouldn't characterize it as "agreeing" with your vote, since my vote on D3f has nothing to do with yours... but to answer your question:

It's a very convenient claim. If it were true, it'd make you conftown. There's also no way to confirm it. The fact that it relies on a plot-driven connection between the characters make it even worse because it gives it an air of legitimacy that I feel is unwarranted.

So, basically, it's as perfect a claim as a scum could make. That's suspicious to me.


Sorry you feel that way.
chesskid3 wrote:Note: Character names are public by design, I didn't derp.
This setup was designed by choosing the 13 characters scene here.
Then alignment(s) were randomized among the 13 chosen roles.
Then the setup was balanced/roles were assigned to peopelz


So, did I just luck out with the ability to make a perfect claim?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:42 am
by mafia-n00b
PeregrineV wrote:
Sorry you feel that way.
chesskid3 wrote:Note: Character names are public by design, I didn't derp.
This setup was designed by choosing the 13 characters scene here.
Then alignment(s) were randomized among the 13 chosen roles.
Then the setup was balanced/roles were assigned to peopelz


So, did I just luck out with the ability to make a perfect claim?


Actually, I'll turn that around on you. If the alignments were randomized, then the mod just lucked out that your characters happened to be the same alignment?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:23 am
by drmyshotgun
D3f3nd3r wrote:Hey Messiah (Matias's replacement), can we get some reads and stuff from you?

How about you do some for a change?

VOTE: 1 MattP
Restate your case on me instead of just asking people if they did some stuff on me last night.
Seriously, your tunneling is a distraction.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:26 am
by MattP
Derpy said he would look over my case on your yesterday. I was asking if he did that. You are honestly just noise

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:00 am
by MattP
604 is a weird post. PV's claim tries to substantiate a D3f lynch by claiming neighbors but it doesn't change anything. The neighbor/mason mechanic is weird too.

I don't get why PV is being so emotional about the loss of masons. He revealed his role for no reason.

Mafia-noob, how is this a perfect claim? The execution sucked.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:32 am
by PeregrineV
MattP wrote:604 is a weird post. PV's claim tries to substantiate a D3f lynch by claiming neighbors but it doesn't change anything. The neighbor/mason mechanic is weird too.

I don't get why PV is being so emotional about the loss of masons. He revealed his role for no reason.

Mafia-noob, how is this a perfect claim? The execution sucked.


My claim isn't the basis for voting Defender. I thought he was scummy yesterday, and needs more pressure on him.

I claimed my role because I should have stuck up for Phil more, but the whole "possible traitor" clause in my role PM stopped me from doing so.

And to keep scum on their toes with any fakeclaims. :twisted:

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:38 am
by MattP
PeregrineV wrote:
MattP wrote:604 is a weird post. PV's claim tries to substantiate a D3f lynch by claiming neighbors but it doesn't change anything. The neighbor/mason mechanic is weird too.

I don't get why PV is being so emotional about the loss of masons. He revealed his role for no reason.

Mafia-noob, how is this a perfect claim? The execution sucked.

I claimed my role because I should have stuck up for Phil more, but the whole "possible traitor" clause in my role PM stopped me from doing so.

And to keep scum on their toes with any fakeclaims. :twisted:

ABLUH ABLUH ABLUH

BLUBLUBLUBLUH

Vote2: PeregrineV

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:40 am
by MattP
It's funny cuz I read your ISO from D1 like 3 times and you read pretty town to me but your play today just sucks

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:55 am
by whispersilk
PeregrineV wrote:OK caught up.

My newest reads:
Derpy, Noob, inte, Whisper as town
Null: Phil, Matt, Fitz, Shotgun, Dan
Scum: CodeX, matais, Defender


Why did you give Phil a null read here?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:56 am
by PeregrineV
MattP wrote:It's funny cuz I read your ISO from D1 like 3 times and you read pretty town to me but your play today just sucks


lol..I am town. And I don't know what you want, since all I did was respond to people and ask noob to explain himself.

pedit, really?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:58 am
by MattP
PeregrineV wrote:
MattP wrote:It's funny cuz I read your ISO from D1 like 3 times and you read pretty town to me but your play today just sucks


lol..I am town. And I don't know what you want, since all I did was respond to people and ask noob to explain himself.

pedit, really?

Your clum was not merited, and your reasoning was bad

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:58 am
by MattP
EBWOP: Claim*. That was like a combo of claim and scum