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↑ Vi wrote:
I appear to be the only person who saw something in Llamarble giving a pass to one person and not another for the same reason. Whichever. See petsPick for a game where I had a similar amount of joy being in the same thread as Ll.

I was voted for a reason like that in Authors mafia and was actually scum, which was annoying because yes, similar actions can read differently to me depending on context. I'm still not even sure what DV did that was supposed to be like Johhog's post though. Do you not like playing with me? I thought I played OK in Animal Rescue, or at least my reads list wasn't bad. I guess I did get run up D1 or D2 for getting off to a slow start or something.

Ok Vi, I finally get what you were talking about.
The DV post you quoted is a disagreement with an opinion on himself. Specifically he is defending the idea that his opener was anti-town.
And "what do you mean by this thing that seems like an accusation directed at me" is different from "whoah that is different from my conclusion about somebody else's alignment."
So those two situations aren't even very similar, at least in how I read them.

↑ Benmage wrote:

↑ Vi wrote:Both Benmage and CES are people who I think would willingly jump at the opportunity to vote me

for the sheer intrinsic pleasure thereof,

and not people I could convince to do much of anything; so much like 90% of the thread, I'm apathetic.

Take this for example. This subtly dismisses both mine and CES' votes as nothing more then shock-n-awe.

Very crafty and clever is the scum Vi. You'll be enlightened.

It's not very subtle. I think you're both more likely Town - yes I know that's dangerous to say around CES - and that by this time there's not a whole lot I alone can do about your votes.

CES 598 wrote:Yeah, I know, I helped design the set-up. It was a cool set-up with a slight mountainous feel. Is that not what you're expecting here?

Ferrariday did say he was considering running Black Flag, so it's not out of the question. I do expect invitational games to be toned down to something reasonably basic, but not necessarily that far.

Disclaimer: My personal invitational experience involves wackadoo Team Mafia games.

Llamarble 601 wrote:Do you not like playing with me? I thought I played OK in Animal Rescue, or at least my reads list wasn't bad. I guess I did get run up D1 or D2 for getting off to a slow start or something.

petsPick was frustrating, though from what I remember you turned out Town (and did well) in the end.
Further pointless explanatory words go here, etc., bottom line is that I apologize for being semi-arbitrarily bitter - especially in this game.

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Anytime someone wants to get the show on the road would be fine.
Deadline's getting closer and Faraday's job is getting boring, though that's partly because he's not posting more awful #hashtags.

↑ Tammy wrote:He also committed one of my favorite scum tells, in as much as I believe in scum tells, in Post 407. I did have this happen to me once. I wrote a whole wall of reads in marketplace mafia, but I was on my ipad and accidentally hit the "x" instead of the tab and had to rewrite the entire thing. However, every time that I can remember someone claiming to have just written a big huge post that got eaten and they weren't going to rewrite it, it's been scum.

So this is your favourite scumtell, and yet it's something that actually happened to you as town?

↑ Tammy wrote:And Empire, just so you know, one of us was *-* close to having to replace out after I read Post 504. My knee jerk reaction was to talk to you on aim about how ridiculous it was that he thinks you're scum.

this feels like a fake dumb tell.

↑ N wrote:

↑ Tammy wrote:He also committed one of my favorite scum tells, in as much as I believe in scum tells, in Post 407. I did have this happen to me once. I wrote a whole wall of reads in marketplace mafia, but I was on my ipad and accidentally hit the "x" instead of the tab and had to rewrite the entire thing. However, every time that I can remember someone claiming to have just written a big huge post that got eaten and they weren't going to rewrite it, it's been scum.

So this is your favourite scumtell, and yet it's something that actually happened to you as town?

↑ Tammy wrote:And Empire, just so you know, one of us was *-* close to having to replace out after I read Post 504. My knee jerk reaction was to talk to you on aim about how ridiculous it was that he thinks you're scum.

this feels like a fake dumb tell.

I keep wanting to cry. Seriously, what. the. hell.

Tammy's reaction on the second part of the post is actually perfectly natural. I've been spending this game in the most awkward situation of having I can talk to about this game just for the purpose of venting. It feels really weird not being able to do so with people you chat with regularly on AIM, and there are quite a few players here who do so--this might have been the playerlist with a highest Want To Play with results out of the four games. So no, that is not a "dumb tell" in any way, and even if she faking it, the feeling is shared by at least one Town player. (Hi.)


The first part is outright hilarious. I have the same knee-jerk reaction to people saying they had this magnificent wall of reads and that it was miraculously lost. Town players tend to try and rebuild it (and yes, I have seen it happen to Town--to Konowa, I believe, and to Nacho in ADwD, among others), but I don't really see showing any particular interest in it, which is what is scummy. The laziness in rebuilding something that you should already have thought out doesn't really bode well.

↑ N wrote:VOTE: CTD

Benmage and Wicked are probably town. Tierce is driving me crazy, but that's okay. I'd rather lynch Empire at this stage, but I know that's not going to happen.

And Nacho is still actually scum.

Waiting for an explanation on here.

Flambérd, would you mind validating the pengualien wagon?

Literally posting from my phone to ask: why in the ever living fuck does anyone read N as town?

↑ Vi wrote:Flambérd, would you mind validating the pengualien wagon?

Goodness, no, that would require effort. And from what I've skimmed, the slot is satisfying me enough that I am not interested on a lynch there Today. I'd much rather have scum who have visible paper trails around them alive on later Days than having someone like N be allowed to live--if he's scum, we eliminate him Today; if he's Town, he's hardly bothering to be useful anyway. :/

↑ N wrote:

↑ CrashTextDummie wrote:What did you accomplish with your Nacho vote? What use did it serve? This is not a defense.

I don't understand how that even looked like it was supposed to be a defense. I've noticed a couple of posts like this, and you either have really bad reading comprehension skills or you're trying to make it look like I'm doing something I'm clearly not doing.

It doesn't look like it's supposed to be a defense, that's the point. You be defending yourself against accusations brought against you, instead you're mudslinging.

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Llama, question for you:

↑ Llamarble wrote:N does not seem like a terrible lynch either.

↑ Llamarble wrote:N is too potentially town to be a good lynch today.

What happened inbetween these posts to change your mind?

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I'm going to reiterate that the penguin wagon is bad and that the N wagon should pick up speed like, right now.

Nope I like penguinwagon now. I've decided(tm)
I also agree with the opinion that one of N/Pengu is good today, as I believe their alignments are likely to be the same.

Ok, I'm as updated as I can be with my reads and still support a Penguin lynch.

↑ Faraday wrote:

Day 1, Votecount 25

penguin_alien (5) - Deasvail, Konowa, Shadoweh, Llamarble, Vi

Johhog (1) -Tammy
N (4) - Tierce, CrashTextDummie, Empire, penguin_alien
Vi (2) - Benmage, Cogito Ergo Sum
CrashTextDummie (4) - WickedestJr, N, Nachomamma8, Johhog

Not voting (0) :

NO ONE

• With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 5th of March at 00:38am GMT
  
• Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-03-04 20:30:28)
  
• Tierce is V/la

Hey

Hey everyone

scum (half a lynching wagon) - Some people

scum (other half of a lynching wagon) - Some other people

Johhog and Vi (3) - some wishful thinkers
A whole line of people on the scumlist who probably have a vested interest in not moving (4)

is it can be desizhun time nao plz?

*tiem

Agreed. Penguinalien, N, and Vi are the only votes allowed.

↑ N wrote:

↑ Tammy wrote:He also committed one of my favorite scum tells, in as much as I believe in scum tells, in Post 407. I did have this happen to me once. I wrote a whole wall of reads in marketplace mafia, but I was on my ipad and accidentally hit the "x" instead of the tab and had to rewrite the entire thing. However, every time that I can remember someone claiming to have just written a big huge post that got eaten and

they weren't going to rewrite it,

it's been scum.

So this is your favourite scumtell, and yet it's something that actually happened to you as town?

Technology is alignment blind. I bolded for you the alignment relevant part.

n wrote:

↑ Tammy wrote:And Empire, just so you know, one of us was *-* close to having to replace out after I read Post 504. My knee jerk reaction was to talk to you on aim about how ridiculous it was that he thinks you're scum.

this feels like a fake dumb tell.

Okay? Do you know what the word dumb means? You could call it a fake reaction if you want; although I doubt I would even think to say something like that if it weren't a reaction I had.

I get the feeling you're going for the too scummy to be scum play. I know you are capable of reading things properly, so I'm rather confused by your play overall.

Daily phone post reminder that N is still mafia and people are townreading him for silly and really bad reasons.

↑ Wickedestjr wrote:
@Tammy- you say that Johhog is suspicious because his play here doesn't feel like his ordinary town play. Have you checked some of his games as scum? How do they compare to this?

That's not all I have said about johhog, and I said I'd still find his play suspicious even if we'd never played ogether before.

No, I haven't checked any of his games, but empire said his only scum games are newbies. I don't really check games I haven't played in for meta except when it's a bit more crucial and I'm having a hard time getting a read on someone.

I'm really only rereading the tm white flag game again because even though I wasn't in it, my teammate was so its about as close as rereading a game I actually played in as I can get.

Empire, what is the most scummy thing about N?

I can't link the relevant posts right now but I urge you to go through his ISO again. It's largely contentless, he's been generally evasive when asked easy questions (e.g., check his response to my asking what he thinks about Vi's vote on him), the few reads he has given are patent bullshit (e.g., the penguin/Konowa read, which is not only transparently BS, but didn't answer the question asked about his view on penguin's alignment) and he's now spent the last few days sniping at easy shit in lieu of actually scumhunting which fits his scum meta (see: Black Flag).

I'm here again, etc etc.

↑ Empire wrote:I can't link the relevant posts right now but I urge you to go through his ISO again. It's largely contentless, he's been generally evasive when asked easy questions (e.g., check his response to my asking what he thinks about Vi's vote on him), the few reads he has given are patent bullshit (e.g., the penguin/Konowa read, which is not only transparently BS, but didn't answer the question asked about his view on penguin's alignment) and he's now spent the last few days sniping at easy shit in lieu of actually scumhunting which fits his scum meta (see: Black Flag).

Hmm, I don't know if I really have a townread on him anymore, but I'm liking my penguin scumread a bit better.