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Posted: **Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:37 pm**

I missed that claim tbh ... Would have lynched it... Rach could be right. Still.

Posted: **Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:42 pm**

Rach, who is the most likely to be scum that is a lurker? Active?

Amrun, I believe youre town, for now. If you had to give a gun to someone via your wand, who would you give a gun to?

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:49 am**

In post 601, Saint wrote:Rach, who is the most likely to be scum that is a lurker? Active?

Amrun, I believe youre town, for now.
If you had to give a gun to someone via your wand, who would you give a gun to?

What is this?

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:02 am**

In post 593, Lord Mhork wrote:RachMarie, who are your townie reads?

Don't you have a QT to talk about this stuff?

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:52 am**

fuzzybutternut, why the twilight objection to the lynch?

I'm definitely waiting on TMTOLBTWNTOF's thoughts to start out today, given that he had ArcAngel9 and Ghostlin as his top scum reads. And his take on the supersaint claim seems off. Given his scum reads, one of whom was at L-1 and the other of whom was ready to hammer at the risk of being supersainted, why not put down the vote to get to L-1? Takes care of both problems. Instead it's characterized as interesting and noted as lynch-dodging behavior.

BROseidon with his slight defense of TMTOLBTWNTOF is still on my radar, but his consistency in wanting Ghostlin to hammer gives him some towniness. Looking into the chatty RachMarie meta overnight, yes, she was chatty in the Popcorn Mafia game, but not significantly more so than in Micro 122 where she replaced in to a very towny slot IIRC. Actually, I wouldn't mind hearing fuzzybutternut's take on the RachMarie meta question, seeing as he was the one who correctly shot her at the risk of his own game death in the Popcorn game.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:49 am**

In post 603, BROseidon wrote:
In post 593, Lord Mhork wrote:RachMarie, who are your townie reads?
Don't you have a QT to talk about this stuff?

If they're masons, they should. Weird, but related question: do Masons frequently have day talk?

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:54 am**

In post 604, penguin_alien wrote:fuzzybutternut, why the twilight objection to the lynch?

I'm definitely waiting on TMTOLBTWNTOF's thoughts to start out today, given that he had ArcAngel9 and Ghostlin as his top scum reads. (1) And his take on the supersaint claim seems off. Given his scum reads, one of whom was at L-1 and the other of whom was ready to hammer at the risk of being supersainted, why not put down the vote to get to L-1? (2) Takes care of both problems. Instead it's characterized as interesting and noted as lynch-dodging behavior.

BROseidon with his slight defense of TMTOLBTWNTOF is still on my radar, but his consistency in wanting Ghostlin to hammer gives him some towniness. Looking into the chatty RachMarie meta overnight, yes, she was chatty in the Popcorn Mafia game, but not significantly more so than in Micro 122 where she replaced in to a very towny slot IIRC. (3) Actually, I wouldn't mind hearing fuzzybutternut's take on the RachMarie meta question, seeing as he was the one who correctly shot her at the risk of his own game death in the Popcorn game.

1. This, plus the little bit of acutal scumhunting is my biggest problem with Letters.
2. I had to beg Amrun to do it. Which, the fact she did it seems like an extremely Town move with the rest of her game play.
3. You're stretching this here. It seems like a very shallow way to analyze meta. Or, let me redirect this into another question, seeing your play at the beginning of the game: do you believe chatiness and activity are things that could be adjusted in one's meta to suit the game?

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:57 am**

In post 601, Saint wrote:Rach, who is the most likely to be scum that is a lurker? Active?

Amrun, I believe youre town, for now. If you had to give a gun to someone via your wand, who would you give a gun to?

You ... or maybe Ghostlin. DV a distant third.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:14 am**

In post 597, Saint wrote:i am still reeling from that quick hammer
in no way would i have been behaving that way if i was around, nor would i have let you guys
you all should be ashamed of yourselves
wasting a perfectly good lynch on a VI

In post 600, Saint wrote:I missed that claim tbh ... Would have lynched it... Rach could be right. Still.

Yeah, I take full responsibility for that hammer, but I don't feel guilty doing it. Super saint, my ass.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:09 am**

In post 606, Ghostlin wrote:3. You're stretching this here. It seems like a very shallow way to analyze meta. Or, let me redirect this into another question, seeing your play at the beginning of the game: do you believe chatiness and activity are things that could be adjusted in one's meta to suit the game?

I do think the chattiness that BROseidon cited is null. That's why I didn't buy his moving there with the reasons given. Upon investigating what he was tallking about when I had time over the night phase, I see it as even less of a compelling reason to be voting RachMarie. Since fuzzybutternut has experience playing against scum-RachMarie in the game BROseidon cited, I think it's worth having him address the question before I entirely dismiss it.

And I suppose one can adjust such personality indicators to suit the game, but since I don't personally think it's meta-relevant, I'm not sure why one would.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:32 pm**

Well, let's drop a vote down in the RIGHT THREAD.

Vote: TMT

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:59 pm**

In post 605, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 603, BROseidon wrote:
In post 593, Lord Mhork wrote:RachMarie, who are your townie reads?
Don't you have a QT to talk about this stuff?
If they're masons, they should. Weird, but related question: do Masons frequently have day talk?

interesting wording considering it's not town, but TOWNIE

In post 607, Amrun wrote:
In post 601, Saint wrote:Rach, who is the most likely to be scum that is a lurker? Active?

Amrun, I believe youre town, for now. If you had to give a gun to someone via your wand, who would you give a gun to?
You ... or maybe Ghostlin. DV a distant third.

you, like i, must be a meta-reliant player
PA seems to be the same... liked her question to FBN

In post 608, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 597, Saint wrote:i am still reeling from that quick hammer
in no way would i have been behaving that way if i was around, nor would i have let you guys
you all should be ashamed of yourselves
wasting a perfectly good lynch on a VI

In post 600, Saint wrote:I missed that claim tbh ... Would have lynched it... Rach could be right. Still.
Yeah, I take full responsibility for that hammer, but I don't feel guilty doing it. Super saint, my ass.

lol hahahaha

Rach is surprisingly absent... I don't know what to think of that... We really should consider lynching into her/mhork eventually

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:31 pm**

@Penguin: Because I had a town read on Arch. Yes, the claim was BS, but it wasn't a scum tell by any means.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:32 pm**

IN case it's still not there
VOTE: Ghostlin

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:20 pm**

In post 612, fuzzybutternut wrote:@Penguin: Because I had a town read on Arch. Yes, the claim was BS, but it wasn't a scum tell by any means.

No, of course not, because claiming super saint would be only things that Town folk do and scum couldn't manipulate the fact that the fear of the hammering vote of the wagon would croak.

Do you play this game asking yourself about scum motivation when you determine the word 'scummy' or 'scum tell', or do you just make this up as you go along?

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:22 pm**

^In case you missed it, I don't believe you believe a single word you typed in #612 if you were paying attention at all.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:44 pm**

Nope. I play this game putting myself in the shoes of scum. That wasn't a scum claim, because it was absolutely suicidal. Was it stupid? God yes, but there's a reason I didn't put my vote on Arc. 1.) I was gone. 2.) She wasn't scum.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:43 pm**

Not absent. just sharing a computer with my fiance NS there saint.

What universe does it make sense for Fred and George Weasley to be scumz there Saint?

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:19 am**

In the universe where you're not Fred and George...?

You're likely town, but regardless, that's a silly question. (Lol belatedly realize i didn't even think of giving the gun to one o f the claimed masons but I'm not confident either of them would shoot well)

Saint, I'm not meta reliant but I certainly take it into account.

Fuzzy, you fail to take into account that scum make suicidal moves when they're already as good as dead, as arc did. I thought Arc might be some scum variant, but no way was she Percy Weasley, SUPER SAINT. Obviously fake claims like that need to die, because try can never be trusted in lylo. Why can they never be trusted in lylo? Because they have a good shot at being scum.

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:23 am**

lol Amrun that was directed at Saint. And yes there was a bit of snark there

I will admit I am a bit snarky lately dealing with sharing a computer has made both work and play somewhat difficult for both of us especially since we work from home. Good news is I probably will have my new computer in a week or less woot. The hearing aid issue does not help I am finding myself headachy and exhausted a lot and making stupid mental errors.

Back to the game

our roles really are not much of a PR all we know is that each other is town and what our character roles are. Other than that, we have no other powers.

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:00 am**

So you can't talk to each other during night?

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:24 am**

In post 612, fuzzybutternut wrote:@Penguin: Because I had a town read on Arch. Yes, the claim was BS, but it wasn't a scum tell by any means.

Are you kidding? How is claiming supersaint to desperately claw at not getting lynched, especially out of character, a towntell?

Also, update title mod :3

In post 606, Ghostlin wrote:1. This, plus the little bit of acutal scumhunting is my biggest problem with Letters.

So the orginial reason you voted me is something that just dissapated? Also, you have never mentioned me lynch dodging ever, and now you're saying it's your biggest problem?

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:29 am**

In post 618, Amrun wrote:In the universe where you're not Fred and George...?

You're likely town, but regardless, that's a silly question. (Lol belatedly realize i didn't even think of giving the gun to one o f the claimed masons but I'm not confident either of them would shoot well)

Saint, I'm not meta reliant but I certainly take it into account.

Fuzzy, you fail to take into account that scum make suicidal moves when they're already as good as dead, as arc did. I thought Arc might be some scum variant, but no way was she Percy Weasley, SUPER SAINT. Obviously fake claims like that need to die, because try can never be trusted in lylo. Why can they never be trusted in lylo? Because they have a good shot at being scum.

Hmm, ever think that maybe, JUST MAYBE, she wanted to stay in this game? Maybe she didn't want to be lynched out, so she claimed something that MIGHT just save her? No?
What's all this talk about Lylo? How can you be so certain that we're going to make it to lylo?

VOTE: Amrun

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:31 am**

In post 618, Amrun wrote:Fuzzy, you fail to take into account that scum make suicidal moves when they're already as good as dead, as arc did. I thought Arc might be some scum variant, but no way was she Percy Weasley, SUPER SAINT. Obviously fake claims like that need to die, because try can never be trusted in lylo. Why can they never be trusted in lylo? Because they have a good shot at being scum.

I think he's being disingenuous on purpose. I think Fuzzy knows well the possible motivations of the AA lynch and he's not even taken the position of 'Gee guys, I don't know, maybe Angel's an VI.'

No, he called it crap in Twilight. And then when he's called on it, he's seeming to claim that it was the most obvious thing in the world she was obv Town and what the hell are we doing?

That's cognitively dissonant on an extreme level, Amrun, and it's not a position I believe comes from Town, but

scum distancing themselves from the lynch

. The Super Saint claim was extreme, a last ditch effort to get folks off her wagon, and while she flipped town, WAS NOT TOWN. IT WASN'T PRO-TOWN, OR BEHAVIOR A VT SHOULD HAVE ENGAGED IN.

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:31 am**

Hello. Civ 5 stole my last day or so. Will check in tomorrow with a proper post.

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