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In post 598, fferyllt wrote:I'm hesitant because some of you obviously know MattP's game quite well, but he has come off as genuine IMO and I'm leaning town. I feel like pushing him on this is becoming a waste of game-time.

So, who are your scum reads?

I think I'd like to discuss a few things in-thread with you, Tammy, but tonight I am far too scatterbrained and occasionally busy. How's tomorrow evening looking for you?

In post 600, Tammy wrote:

In post 598, fferyllt wrote:I'm hesitant because some of you obviously know MattP's game quite well, but he has come off as genuine IMO and I'm leaning town. I feel like pushing him on this is becoming a waste of game-time.

So, who are your scum reads?

I still think Antagon looks bad and I am not sure what to make of his claim. SOO bothers me. And I don't like hp_leaves nearly as much as I did mrbungles.

My town read of Syry has gotten kinda stale, though I know he's been busy IRL. Looking forward to an in-game chat with him tomorrow.

And there are a few players that just don't seem to register at all. I started rereading the thread this afternoon, but that's been pre-empted by an offsite game that's moving at a very rapid pace atm. I'll finish the reread either later tonight or tomorrow.

In post 601, Tierce wrote:I think I'd like to discuss a few things in-thread with you, Tammy, but tonight I am far too scatterbrained and occasionally busy. How's tomorrow evening looking for you?

Tomorrows good for me and better than tonight anyway. I'll finish reading tonight/tomorrow and think over whatever I need to during a swim. I have grading to do tomorrow evening so would love an interruption. :p

Hey.
Antagon's role is over powered like 2 dox.
Lynch now plox.

The only thing that gives me pause
is Tierce is setting up lynches based on an Antigon town filp.

But eh, that's best investigated after an antigon flip. Cause she's like fucking addicted to defending scum.

So there's that.

Seriously, if you want to pussy out of an Antigon lynch based on his claim, we could just force him to claim his target everyday, and then if he's ever bottoms up we can just lynch his target, which is lulzy, or he and his target are making it to end game, and unless we are fucking re re that's that's a town win too, so yeah, he's scum.

In post 53, Oversoul wrote:

In post 12, MattP wrote:

In post 10, Tammy wrote:VOTE: mattp

You have 5 pages to town tell...go!

That's contingent on there being a dumbass in the game

Ummm
Hello

You are playing with me
heyo

In post 35, Tammy wrote:

In post 28, Oversoul wrote: Matt looks town

Why does Matt look town?

The gambit thing looks like Matt from First Time the whole gambit thing. Plus I'd rather Matt be town than scum since it will make my life so much easier.
Flavor for this game is uh... Gonna be interesting to say the least.

Tierce does it ring any bells to you? Based on the comments made by certain players?

Was the bolded ever answered?

ffrey, which three players would you kill if you had a choice?

Rereading the early part of the thread, it struck me that Whimsical Eggplant could have simply misremembered who said that discussing mass claim was a bad idea when he wrote that one post. There were intermingled conversations happening.

Also, I miss Pjovik. The game thread is more fun when he is posting.

In post 567, Antagon wrote:You want me to claim? Okay.

I claim Poo from EarthBound.

For some reason, I can use teleportation as kind of a JK/Ascetic type role.

If I target a player, no actions can be taken by either player.

No actions can affect either player, unless my target decides to kill me.
Yeah, I don't really understand how my role works.

Unless I'm reading this wrong, why does this seem like a scumPR paraphrase gone wrong...

In post 606, Zdenek wrote:ffrey, which three players would you kill if you had a choice?

I am going to answer this tomorrow, after I've soaked on my reread.

In post 574, Antagon wrote:

In post 573, Zachrulez wrote:What happens if someone who you don't target tries to kill you?

It will fail. I am protected from kills unless I target someone who tries to kill me.

:S

Tried reading over the claim posts multiple times, and...

In post 571, Antagon wrote:

In post 569, Tierce wrote:

In post 567, Antagon wrote:I claim Poo from EarthBound. For some reason, I can use teleportation as kind of a JK/Ascetic type role. If I target a player, no actions can be taken by

either

player. No actions can affect either player, unless my target decides to kill me.
Yeah, I don't really understand how my role works.

Who is

either

? How do you have multiple targets?

I said it badly.

No actions can target me or my target.

My target and I cannot have any actions

, unless I target someone who tries to kill me.

This is implying that you have other possible actions that you can take... and given what you're claiming, that shouldn't be the case?


I dunno if I'm overthinking this one, but it's obviously either a rather botched scum claim, or something else that I'd rather not say.

In post 361, MattP wrote:Oh yayaayayaya now I dont have to try

VOTE: Antagon

Weren't you super scum reading ffery at this point? Why do you sound gleeful at the antagon scum read?

^^^that might sound like a dumb question, but I'm trying to figure out why if you thought you caugh scum with ffery, you sound happy to not do anything here.

In post 484, Zachrulez wrote:

In post 483, Tierce wrote:

In post 475, Zachrulez wrote:

In post 474, Tierce wrote: Zach: when did you decide I am Town?

Where do you get that conclusion?

The way you've been treating me.

Been starting to lean that way, I guess my posting perhaps is betraying that.

Still something eating at me about you though. See 473.

This post is bothering me. If he was starting to lean that way, why would he be surprised she picked up on it? It just doesnt really fit with his wondering why he thought she was town.

...so HP leaves said he was going to contribute soon. 36 hours ago. Did he actually do anything?

In post 614, Tammy wrote:

In post 484, Zachrulez wrote:

In post 483, Tierce wrote:

In post 475, Zachrulez wrote:

In post 474, Tierce wrote: Zach: when did you decide I am Town?

Where do you get that conclusion?

The way you've been treating me.

Been starting to lean that way, I guess my posting perhaps is betraying that.

Still something eating at me about you though. See 473.

This post is bothering me. If he was starting to lean that way, why would he be surprised she picked up on it? It just doesnt really fit with his wondering why he thought she was town.

Mostly because I hadn't gotten around to stating it and I didn't think I'd given any indication to it, but apparently I did. Being there doesn't mean there weren't things that were still eating at me about her. I mean if there wasn't anything bothering me about her, I'd have a much more solid read there.

In post 599, Tammy wrote:

In post 187, Zachrulez wrote:
My lack of attention to the game over the weekend was due to having lots of shiny distractions. My lack of attention in that timeframe isn't meant to say that I was never going to give the content in the game attention, just that I wasn't in much of a position to over the last couple of days.

Why did you feel the need to preempitvely defend yourself for this?

If you have to ask that, I have to wonder if you actually read the part of the game that came from.

In post 604, Zdenek wrote:Hey.
Antagon's role is over powered like 2 dox.
Lynch now plox.

That doesn't make it more likely to be a fakeclaim. The fact that the role blatently looks WAY out there is what's actually giving me pause. I'd have been more suspicious if the role looked more fitting/convenient.

The only thing that gives me pause
is Tierce is setting up lynches based on an Antigon town filp.

But eh, that's best investigated after an antigon flip. Cause she's like fucking addicted to defending scum.[/quote]

I don't like her asking for that claim at lynch -2. I'm not denying that there was a good chance we'd get there eventually, but it's the fact that she did it, at lynch -2 and did it without voting him herself.

In post 604, Zdenek wrote:So there's that.

Seriously, if you want to pussy out of an Antigon lynch based on his claim, we could just force him to claim his target everyday, and then if he's ever bottoms up we can just lynch his target, which is lulzy, or he and his target are making it to end game, and unless we are fucking re re that's that's a town win too, so yeah, he's scum.

The claim raises the stakes on being wrong. I'm not exactly thrilled at the prospect of potentially lynching a powerful town power role, if we're going to lynch him I want more certainty that he's scum and I don't think we get that today. I find Matt to be a much stronger choice for a lynch at this point, plus I think a Matt scumflip points to Antagon scum anyway.

In post 617, Zachrulez wrote:I don't like her asking for that claim at lynch -2. I'm not denying that there was a good chance we'd get there eventually, but it's the fact that she did it, at lynch -2 and did it without voting him herself.

fferyllt had declared intent to vote and I was strongly considering voting him at that point. I don't want people put at L-1 without good reason this early in this game, as we saw when I asked that that slot be brought down from L-1 a few days ago.

In post 616, Zachrulez wrote: My lack of attention to the game over the weekend was due to having lots of shiny distractions. My lack of attention in that timeframe isn't meant to say that I was never going to give the content in the game attention, just that I wasn't in much of a position to over the last couple of days.

Why did you feel the need to preempitvely defend yourself for this?[/quote]

If you have to ask that, I have to wonder if you actually read the part of the game that came from.[/quote]


...I did. It struck me as weird the first time I read it through, but I figured I missed something. I think it's pretty obvious I reread most of the game tonight and no it didn't strike me as natural this time either. Feel free to point me to what I missed.

Argh I missed a quote tag on that post.

In post 617, Zachrulez wrote:

In post 604, Zdenek wrote:Hey.
Antagon's role is over powered like 2 dox.
Lynch now plox.

That doesn't make it more likely to be a fakeclaim. The fact that the role blatently looks WAY out there is what's actually giving me pause. I'd have been more suspicious if the role looked more fitting/convenient.

In post 604, Zdenek wrote:The only thing that gives me pause
is Tierce is setting up lynches based on an Antigon town filp.

But eh, that's best investigated after an antigon flip. Cause she's like fucking addicted to defending scum.

I don't like her asking for that claim at lynch -2. I'm not denying that there was a good chance we'd get there eventually, but it's the fact that she did it, at lynch -2 and did it without voting him herself.

In post 604, Zdenek wrote:So there's that.

Seriously, if you want to pussy out of an Antigon lynch based on his claim, we could just force him to claim his target everyday, and then if he's ever bottoms up we can just lynch his target, which is lulzy, or he and his target are making it to end game, and unless we are fucking re re that's that's a town win too, so yeah, he's scum.

The claim raises the stakes on being wrong. I'm not exactly thrilled at the prospect of potentially lynching a powerful town power role, if we're going to lynch him I want more certainty that he's scum and I don't think we get that today. I find Matt to be a much stronger choice for a lynch at this point, plus I think a Matt scumflip points to Antagon scum anyway.

Yeah I don't have a good argument against that reasoning Tierce, just a strict metagame view that players should be asked to claim at lynch -1 under imminent threat of hammer. It's probably not a reasonable view when people like Benmage who hammer for the hell of it are playing mafia now that I think about it though.

I can quite see Vi having strong PRs on either side in this game. I still have to mull on this one for a while, so it'll keep until tomorrow.

In post 620, Zachrulez wrote:Yeah I don't have a good argument against that reasoning Tierce, just a strict metagame view that players should be asked to claim at lynch -1 under imminent threat of hammer. It's probably not a reasonable view when people like Benmage who hammer for the hell of it are playing mafia now that I think about it though.

I wouldn't ask for a claim willy-nilly regardless of my alignment. It's actually a pretty null action from me--it was a cold, logical decision at that point, so while I can say there wasn't scum intent, there wasn't a clearly visible Town motivation in it either because I'd do it like that anyway. (Actually, I have put him at L-1 as scum. Don't know; my alignment is obvious anyway and I have better things to do than figure out what I'd do as scum in these circumstances.)

It wasn't so much Benmage-style players here, as people in OMG KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT mode *coughZdenekcough*. Relax, Z. Have a drink or three. The Day's not going to deadline, but you're tunneling quite fiercely there.

Days that don't end within 2days RL time are failures.

(Been reading through Fates mafia and Psychic, good ol' times)

In post 611, Katsuki wrote:Tried reading over the claim posts multiple times, and...

In post 571, Antagon wrote:

In post 569, Tierce wrote:

In post 567, Antagon wrote:I claim Poo from EarthBound. For some reason, I can use teleportation as kind of a JK/Ascetic type role. If I target a player, no actions can be taken by

either

player. No actions can affect either player, unless my target decides to kill me.
Yeah, I don't really understand how my role works.

Who is

either

? How do you have multiple targets?

I said it badly.

No actions can target me or my target.

My target and I cannot have any actions

, unless I target someone who tries to kill me.

This is implying that you have other possible actions that you can take... and given what you're claiming, that shouldn't be the case?


I dunno if I'm overthinking this one, but it's obviously either a rather botched scum claim, or something else that I'd rather not say.

Seconded.

In post 611, Katsuki wrote:Tried reading over the claim posts multiple times, and...

In post 571, Antagon wrote:

In post 569, Tierce wrote:

In post 567, Antagon wrote:I claim Poo from EarthBound. For some reason, I can use teleportation as kind of a JK/Ascetic type role. If I target a player, no actions can be taken by

either

player. No actions can affect either player, unless my target decides to kill me.
Yeah, I don't really understand how my role works.

Who is

either

? How do you have multiple targets?

I said it badly.

No actions can target me or my target.

My target and I cannot have any actions

, unless I target someone who tries to kill me.

This is implying that you have other possible actions that you can take... and given what you're claiming, that shouldn't be the case?


I dunno if I'm overthinking this one, but it's obviously either a rather botched scum claim, or something else that I'd rather not say.

Seconded.