Newbie 1419 - GAME OVER

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #600 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:09 am

but mostly i can't see scum outside flammus, so.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #601 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:09 am

#YOLO, thank you Bert for this fine scum lynch, etc.

notscience · Post Post #602 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:17 am

ALL HAIL BERT

Brian Skies · Post Post #603 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:13 am

In post 600, Nachomamma8 wrote:but mostly i can't see scum outside flammus, so.

Woot. Figured out how to multi-quote more easily. Anyhow, I completely agree with this now that Verbs and Titus are confirmed town.

In post 602, notscience wrote:ALL HAIL BERT

Bert coming in and messing up scum's day. Too good.

Brian Skies · Post Post #604 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:13 am

Feeling really good about this lynch right now.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #605 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:19 am

In post 603, Brian Skies wrote:Woot. Figured out how to multi-quote more easily. Anyhow, I completely agree with this now that Verbs and Titus are confirmed town.

I prefer selecting the text I want to respond to, pressing quote and then using copy+paste magic for big mighty walls. It seems to be the fastest.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #606 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:54 am

hammer flammus at will! if he wanted to contribute, he should have given us something to sink our teeth into right now.
worried he'll flip town?

Brian Skies · Post Post #607 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:59 am

In post 606, Nachomamma8 wrote:hammer flammus at will! if he wanted to contribute, he should have given us something to sink our teeth into right now.
worried he'll flip town?

Not really. If he flips town, it's his fault for being scummy. And if that happens, we look elsewhere. We have enough of a town block to find the mafia, no matter where he's hiding.

Brian Skies · Post Post #608 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:01 am

And besides, Titus is confirmed town by Verbs.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #609 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:02 am

yeah the don't you worry child video was telling people to stop worrying

notscience · Post Post #610 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:52 pm

I HEARD HAMMER

VOTE: Flammus

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Brian Skies · Post Post #611 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:03 pm

In post 610, notscience wrote:I HEARD HAMMER

VOTE: Flammus

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Didn't u already vote him?

notscience · Post Post #612 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:04 pm

SON OF A

WHY DID YOU SAY THAT

IT COULD HAVE GIVEN SO MUCH INSIGHT

notscience · Post Post #613 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:06 pm

ALSO

Wisdom pushed mara hard yesterday yet conveniently jumped off (without changing his read on her) and that ended in a compromise lynch

Brian Skies · Post Post #614 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:07 pm

In post 613, notscience wrote:ALSO

Wisdom pushed mara hard yesterday yet conveniently jumped off (without changing his read on her) and that ended in a compromise lynch

What? Who are these people?

Brian Skies · Post Post #615 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:12 pm

In post 612, notscience wrote:SON OF A

WHY DID YOU SAY THAT

IT COULD HAVE GIVEN SO MUCH INSIGHT

Also, my apologies. I didn't realize it until I started recounting the votes.

notscience · Post Post #616 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:13 pm

Oops wrong game

Titus · Post Post #617 (ISO) » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:44 am

Was sick. Catching up. If I'm dead/replaced, please ignore.

Titus · Post Post #618 (ISO) » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:48 am

Ok Verbs has cleared me.

That leaves

Nacho, NS, Brian Skies, Shiddaji and Flammus as scum.

I am not sure Flammus is scum or not due to his lack of content and being an apparent newbie from Epic Mafia. I'm ok with that. Can we get a vote count and a deadline?

notscience · Post Post #619 (ISO) » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:24 am

We've already figured out Flam is scum now hammer plox

Brian Skies · Post Post #620 (ISO) » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:34 am

Not entirely sure (someone may need to double-check), but the vote count should look like this:

Flammus - Brian, Nacho, notscience
Titus - Shii

Not voting - Verbs, Flammus, Titus

I think it's 4 to lynch, so that puts Flammus at L-1.

Brian Skies · Post Post #621 (ISO) » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:41 am

In post 618, Titus wrote:I am not sure Flammus is scum or not due to his lack of content and being an apparent newbie from Epic Mafia. I'm ok with that. Can we get a vote count and a deadline?

I understand that experience affects your reads on newer players, but it shouldn't. You should be treating every player the same way. Giving newer players advice (myself included) is important, but treating us the way you would other players is even more important. That's the best and fastest way for us to learn. You can't discount a player's actions just because he/she is new or less experienced. Otherwise, they'll be using the same "newbish" moves over and over (see lettersGaiden's first game and this game).

Also, the Epic Mafia is a good point. They tend not to talk much on early days (if at all), and then the people who talk on later days to find information or make cases tend to be scumread (even if they are town; see WIFOM). Epic Mafia is mostly gut based, and it becomes extremely annoying to deal with those types of players at times. Mostly because a lot of scumreads on that site are total bs.

Titus · Post Post #622 (ISO) » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:47 am

Why the urge to lynch?

I have noted that fact and it's probably right that I give too much emphasis on players being new.

Brian Skies · Post Post #623 (ISO) » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:09 am

In post 622, Titus wrote:Why the urge to lynch?

I have noted that fact and it's probably right that I give too much emphasis on players being new.

I'm not saying to hammer because we said so. If you hammer and you don't believe he's scum, then you aren't doing your job as a confirmed town. However, we've already laid out the evidence of him being the most likely. Furthermore, he has had ample opportunity to convince us otherwise, which he hasn't even bothered doing.

And the inexperience only gives me more reason to want the lynch.

In post 331, Bert wrote:OH shit.

Deadline's tomorrow?

OK, VT.

Don't bother waiting for a claim lol. I haven't even read the game yet.

I'll be done by tonight since I have school tomorrow morning

Why kill Bert when he already claimed VT? Either the scum totally missed this and hit a non-power role by accident, or the scum is inexperienced.

Brian Skies · Post Post #624 (ISO) » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:18 am

I'm the one who started this bandwagon, so I understand that makes me suspicious. But I'm pretty darn convinced the Flammus spot is scum. If for w/e reason he flips town, these are my reads:

Shii - Slight scumread. He was acting suspiciously at the beginning of Day 2.
notscience - Slight scumread. If not Shii, then by process of elimination, notscience would be scum. notscience helped stop the Verbs wagon (huge towny points) and Bert and Nacho seem sold on him.
Nacho - Strong townread. All signs point to this.

Verbs - Clear. Or should be since no one has counterclaimed the possibility of it.
Titus - Clear.

I mean, if for whatever reason Flammus flips town (which I think he will), you can look at notscience, Shii, and me next.