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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:54 pm

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I am so sorry, guys. There really isn't any kind of good excuse for me, at this point. I'm really trying to find comp time, and it's only really sort of working.

No lynch has oocured, seeing as only one of the players who voted for viper bothered to unvote beforehand.

I will have a vote count up shortly, if all goes according to plan. I will also be instated a deadline.

Thank you for your continued patience and repeated updates, those of you to whom that applies.
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:13 pm

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Okay, I'll bite: Ubertimmy, do you have a reason (other than gut) that Pug89 is a better lynch than Zu_Faul?

If you have information which makes it more likely, I think you might as well cough it up. We have no dead townspeople, and two dead scum. If we can assure that we lynch another scum today, that would be rather awesome.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:45 pm

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ubertimmy wrote:
al_kohaulec wrote: zu_Faul is probably the scummiest on my list, but PJ does have a good point that if nobody else has the blocking flavor that you have, then it's very probably that you are scum timmy.
Actually, that's not a good point at all! If I explained to you why it's wrong, I'd be cleared.

I honestly can't decide about Zu_Faul. He has acted very scummy. But there's something, ok? You all seem very certain he's scum. I'm willing to lynch him, I guess. But, here's the thing. If he comes up scum, I want to be given a chance to explain myself. That's all I ask. And if he comes up scum at all, it should help my actions make sense.

Unvote, Vote: Zu_Faul
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:14 am

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You know Zu_Faul, there is a case against you in Post 479, mixed in with a case against Pug89. Perhaps you could try responding to the relevant portions instead of casting them aside?

Do you have a better case against
ANYBODY
else? If not, I suggest you hush your mush. You have been acting scummy rather consistently throughout this game, and I sincerely hope it is because you are, indeed, scum. You seem to have just given up.

As it is, I don't believe you have presented a serious case against anybody throughout this game. I would love to hear one.

Further:
Lloyd wrote:Where's the bandwagon on viper0933?
Zu_Faul's NEXT POST:
zu_Faul wrote:
Thesp wrote:
armlx wrote:
Vote Viper


This is the only wagon I see leading anywhere ATM.,....
Really? The zu_Faul wagon was leading somewhere.
Yeah, to the win of the mafia.

Vote viper

If you want to fake a post restriction after you repalced, it's often a bad idea.
BAAAA! BAAAA! Being hypocritical much? You've been following people around too.

Also: Possible last minute attempt at distancing from Ubertimmy has been noted and logged.
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:38 am

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Alright, fine, I'll explain everything now.

I'm a cop. Things making sense now? The reason I knew Glork blocked me is because in my result, it said a man came in and threw cockroaches everywhere. I've only had one chance to investigate, seeing as I was blocked one night. Last night I investigated Zu_Faul. And I found he was innocent. Thus, as I said, if he turns up scum, I know what role he'll have: Godfather. I'd rather lynch Pug then Zu_Faul because I thought there's a chance he's town. Yet Zu_Faul's claimed townie, and he's acted scummy.

Lloyd and Max: The idea that you have an investigation was a little weird to me. But, it seems you're not sane, doesn't it? And, I think I figured out your flavor. And to me, it indicates there's another part of your role we haven't been told. Let's save that til' tomorrow, though.

If we lynch Zu_Faul today, we either kill the Godfather or a townie, and we get info.

If we lynch Pug, we kill what I believe is scum.

I think Zu_faul may actually be the way to go. :/ What do you think?

Anyway, there it is. If you demand flavor, I'll give it.

I could use some protection tonight, seeing as I've claimed.
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:25 am

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This is all very interesting and does make a lot more sense.

And flavor and/or a name would be nice.

If this is true, lynching zu_Faul would provide the town with info, but we could do that tomorrow instead. We could lynch Pug today and try to get scum there. I think I'd prefer a Pug lynch right now, but a zu_Faul lynch, like you said, could offer us more info. in addition to how scummy he's acted. I'll listen to the rest of the town's thoughts first though.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:32 am

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[quote=pj]You know Zu_Faul, there is a case against you in Post 479, mixed in with a case against Pug89. Perhaps you could try responding to the relevant portions instead of casting them aside? [/quote]
Chance?

And how was I sheepish? I had my own reason, noone else brought up before. And UT's post really sticks out as sheepish in perfection. I didn't vote, because others thought that he was a good lynch.
Maybe you should learn these things first before accusing people.

And yeah, let's always lynch people who are cleared by a cop. Yeah he could be naive or something, but do you think it's probable? I don't.
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:23 am

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zu_Faul wrote: And yeah, let's always lynch people who are cleared by a cop. Yeah he could be naive or something, but do you think it's probable? I don't.
Or if you read, he thinks you might be the mafia don, and thus immune to investigation. I don't think this cop is naive, but I think this is a possibility. I personally don't want to act on it yet though.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:02 pm

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Zu_Faul, I'm at the point where I want to lynch you on principle.

Also, I figured UberTimmy had
some
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I asked him to reveal if he had info in the first place.

Vote: Pug89
, most likely scum at this point.
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:05 pm

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Also:

There is still the distinct possibility Zu_Faul is GodFather. Which would also perfectly explain his actions on D1: GodFathers try to look scummy enough to be investigated, but town enough to not be lynched. It is perfectly plausible think he was purposely pushing the line for that exact purpose, but I'm still good with a Pug89 lynch, since I just want to get this day over with now.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:45 am

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Unvote, Vote: Pug89
then.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:52 am

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Any last words Pug (who hasn't posted here for a week and a half)?
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:31 am

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Mod: Vote Count please.
My vote will go on Pug89, pending claim and presuming the need for my vote. I don't think there's a real need to doubt ubertimmy at this point. I particularly would like an official count, given the voting/unvoting bit.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:28 am

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oh, by the way, I forgot this before

MAJOR FOS: EVERYONE ON THE VIPER WAGON


That means Lloyd, Max, Zu_Faul, Pug, Al_ko, and armlx.
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:48 am

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ubertimmy wrote:oh, by the way, I forgot this before

MAJOR FOS: EVERYONE ON THE VIPER WAGON


That means Lloyd, Max, Zu_Faul, Pug, Al_ko, and armlx.
Unvote

Vote: viper0933

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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:53 pm

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Sorry I haven't posted lately, I've been busy

There isn't a lot I can say in defense of myself since, IIRC, most of the accusations against me are based upon Glork's actions towards me. I'm not Glork; I can't explain why he acted the way he did. If anyone has any suspicouns about be based on something I did I'll be more than happy to address them, but otherwise there is very little I can do.
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:25 am

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Could somebody
please
take care of our Lloyd problem, tonight? If he is town, he is not helping, and if he is scum, it wins the game for the town. Win-win.

Pug89, you have been so silent this game, it's hard to present anything about you. But fine: I'll sift through your posts, and make a list just I did for Ubertimmy.

1.) Your early FoS on Max for good reasoning, with an early FoS on Glork on
bad
reasoning (perhaps very purposely: I've noticed scum tend to use weaker arguments against their own partners)
2.) Sitting on the fence for a long time about the issue of Lloyd, while also showing suspicion on him. As scum, this would be an attempt to nudge the town into voting Lloyd without committing yourself firmly to the position.
3.) Trying to expand to the potential shows which could be scum (perhaps so it is easier to attack townspeople)
4.) Not voting for Glork based on the fact that you found Lloyd more suspicious, while calling the case on Glork weak
5.) Promising to vote for Glork but never following up (although you have technically responded to this)
6.) General lurkiness, you never seem to be around (although I am sure this will be directly correlated to real life issues)

For the most part, it is simply your interactions with Glork and Glork's interactions concerning you that make me think you are scum. Presenting a stellar case is not a prerequisite for a lynch. I think Glork derailed your wagon, and I'm not seeing many reasons why he would do that as scum save for WIFOM reasons.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:28 am

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WOW ubertimmy thinks nearly everyone is scum
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:25 am

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Obviously, because an FoS is the same thing as voting/accusing of scum! :roll:

Maybe the fact that you guys completely ignored all the previous discussion and decided to incredibly quickly bandwagon viper without any deadline / decent reason means something? nah, prolly not.
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:04 pm

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No claim. Cute.

Vote: Pug89.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:52 pm

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ubertimmy wrote:Obviously, because an FoS is the same thing as voting/accusing of scum! :roll:

Maybe the fact that you guys completely ignored all the previous discussion and decided to incredibly quickly bandwagon viper without any deadline / decent reason means something? nah, prolly not.
My reason was that I felt the thread was dying. Seriously, I was gone for over week and returned to, I dunno, around three posts. And then there was next to no discussion after that, we were getting nowhere and doing nothing, even the mod was letting the game slip. We needed to get past the day and move on before too many people decided to just let the game drop. I didn't want the game to be abandoned and so I was pretty much willing to do any lynch, as long as it progressed the game.

Even if we hit a townie (which it seems we almost did) it wouldn't have hurt us too badly because of the two players we have dead, two are scum. We haven't lost any town yet, so that's a huge bonus for us. We are at an advantage. Besides, now we have some infomation on viper that we otherwise wouldn't have gotten, and sure it's possible some ppl would fight their innocence through twilight even, but most ppl won't.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:41 pm

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petroleumjelly wrote:Could somebody
please
take care of our Lloyd problem, tonight? If he is town, he is not helping, and if he is scum, it wins the game for the town.
You want to see me tonight, when we could targetting scums instead.

I don't see why you wouldn't be a better kill, considering that you're trying to direct the town against everyone else but yourself.

In fact, I think I'd rather vote for you instead of Pug89, zu_Faul, or anyone else.

Unvote

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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:42 pm

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Clarification: Above, "see me" should have been "see me dead"
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:10 pm

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For God's sake, Lloyd:

START THINKING. You are completely unhelpful.

Your Day One play consisted of:

"Look at me! I'm a Mason! I left breadcrumbs! Anyone suspicious of me is scum! Why are you voting for Max? He's my Mason partner! I left breadcrumbs! I won't actually help find scum, because instead I'll just OMGUS anybody who finds me suspicious!"

ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS GAME
AT ALL
?

Let me summarize to you exactly why a vote on me is stupid:

I replaced Ibaesha.

Ibaesha was Doc protected on Night Zero.
Ibaesha used a self protect on Night Zero.
Neither the Mafia kill nor the Serial Killer kill went through on Night Zero.

The Mafia Role-Blocker blocked UberTimmy (claimed Cop) Night Zero.
Armlx (claimed 1-Shot roleblocker) did not block Night Zero

Where did the night-kills go? HMM? Are you going to propose that neither side sent in a kill?

Now:

TELL ME HOW I AM SCUM. So far as I am concerned, I am the most cleared person in this entire game. Read back on the game, and change your vote. I am searching for scum. You are not.
That's
why I would rather just have you dead. People who are not helping to find scum should not be playing.

Further:

There is still the possibility that you are scum attempting an elaborate gambit. I can see it: very easily.

My impression of you as a player is that you purposely do off-the-wall things simply so you can have people talk about it afterwards. "Happily Ever After" comes to mind, as does voting yourself, claiming a role-name that is not your own (see: Blackberry's Mini game), etc. I can totally see you using your Mason-claim as a shield the entire game, because if I were here on Day One, I would not have minded one bit seeing you lynched.

Now for God's sake, vote for Pug89. This game has been going
forever
, and I am frankly bored of it. I want to see a lynch, but I want to see a good lynch.

If you have a valid reason to vote for me over Pug89, I would absolutely
love
to hear it.
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:39 pm

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This time I have to agree with PJ.
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