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In post 174, Grimgroove wrote:The Nachomamma townread is intentionally based on loose sand. I don't think a genuine MAlakittens would give him townpoints for defensiveness. This is evident because of the word "but". Normally she wouldn't consider Nacho being defensive as town, "but"...

This was extremely nitpicky; seemed like the type of thing scum would attack but can't find town having conviction in.

In post 321, Grimgroove wrote:That argument is bad. There's nothing remotely special about that kind of bitching. Even if he didn't do it before (as if you'd remember something like him NOT doing something like that before), it's not as crucial as you make it out to be. Maybe he learned a thing or two in the meanwhile, leading him to be suspicious of early townreads? MAybe it's the nature of your particular townreads that don't sit well with him? Maybe, maybe, maybe, so many possible explanations. Yet you focus on one and turn it into a crucial "argument".

He uses Mala noting that shos didn't dislike early townreads in the past as a point against Mala because "shos might have changed". Yes, shos might have changed but nothing at all points to that so Mala shouldn't have to make that assumption when she sees something different, and it's weird he expects her to make that assumption.

In post 434, Grimgroove wrote:shos' latest buddying and agreeing with everything I say doesn't feel too good. Too over the top to still be genuine.

Dropping shos townread when he did was weird timing.

In post 597, Wisdom wrote:What scumslip, Matt?

Ooba is town, Matt! You have to change that in your read's list and then I 100% agree with you!

Ooba is not town!

I don't want to explain why Ooba is not town right now, just forget it

In post 598, pirate mollie wrote:

In post 593, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 586, pirate mollie wrote:but I also expect to him to be able to read me a bit better as town.

The push itself is good, even though it's probably wrong. That's not what a scumDesp ignoring obvious towntells to get a mislynch on you would look like.

the only thing that irks me is how he is ignoring what whiskers is doing. I mean like we literally just saw this happen in a micros.

He didn't ignore what whiskers is doing; he mentioned how whiskers and ETL were different.

In post 599, MattP wrote:If Whiskers was scum he would not point out that I'm giving him preferential treating for behaviors I'm picking at Shos for. End of story.

Quoting this on new page

In post 601, MattP wrote:I don't want to explain why Ooba is not town right now, just forget it

Can't*

Why can't you?

In post 586, pirate mollie wrote:@ nacho

I don't think scum desp would push me either but I also expect to him to be able to read me a bit better as town. matt, wis are solid town reads, arc has slipped a bit and mala is unsure. I think shos looks like pondscum but I thought that in sabotage too. I will lay off whiskers for now but jesus christ don't let her skate.

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So let me see if I've got this right:
Desp - null, should be reading you as town no matter alignment.
MattP - Town. Very vocal and largely unanimous townread.
Wisdom - Town. Very vocal and largely unanimous townread.
Arc - null, some support for his lynch but not enough to state an outright scumread without looking bad.
Mala - null, some scumreads, some townreads, but not enough for a confident scumread without looking bad.
shos - scum, everybody thinks he's scum, pretty much, especially buddies MattP and Wisdom. Also, "I might be wrong," so none of the blame can go to you when he flips the wrong way.
Whiskers - null. Scum, but not enough support for a lynch, so you can't well voice your unpopular opinion any longer. It could get you into trouble.

In post 602, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 598, pirate mollie wrote:

In post 593, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 586, pirate mollie wrote:but I also expect to him to be able to read me a bit better as town.

The push itself is good, even though it's probably wrong. That's not what a scumDesp ignoring obvious towntells to get a mislynch on you would look like.

the only thing that irks me is how he is ignoring what whiskers is doing. I mean like we literally just saw this happen in a micros.

He didn't ignore what whiskers is doing; he mentioned how whiskers and ETL were different.

I am not talking about etl I am talking about squirrel girl in mala's medical mafia game. never played with her before but she came in with a hate on for me that was an effective smokescreen for scummy d1 play. I am tired of giving this shit a pass.

In post 606, Whiskers wrote:

In post 586, pirate mollie wrote:@ nacho

I don't think scum desp would push me either but I also expect to him to be able to read me a bit better as town. matt, wis are solid town reads, arc has slipped a bit and mala is unsure. I think shos looks like pondscum but I thought that in sabotage too. I will lay off whiskers for now but jesus christ don't let her skate.

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So let me see if I've got this right:
Desp - null, should be reading you as town no matter alignment.
MattP - Town. Very vocal and largely unanimous townread.
Wisdom - Town. Very vocal and largely unanimous townread.
Arc - null, some support for his lynch but not enough to state an outright scumread without looking bad.
Mala - null, some scumreads, some townreads, but not enough for a confident scumread without looking bad.
shos - scum, everybody thinks he's scum, pretty much, especially buddies MattP and Wisdom. Also, "I might be wrong," so none of the blame can go to you when he flips the wrong way.
Whiskers - null. Scum, but not enough support for a lynch, so you can't well voice your unpopular opinion any longer. It could get you into trouble.

that is not even remotely an accurate depiction of my reads.

In post 605, MattP wrote:Why can't you?

just leave it at can't for now.

matt I think you are wrong about whiskers

In post 610, pirate mollie wrote:matt I think you are wrong about whiskers

I'm not wrong about his action. If you are saying that action doesn't make him almost positively town then SHRUG. I'm not letting him get lynched today so.

In post 609, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 605, MattP wrote:Why can't you?

just leave it at can't for now.

I don't really see a reason I need to. I've considered all of the options, and I see little potential cost in the cost-benefit paradigm of just letting this slide.

On NOT letting it slide**

that's unfortunate then because you're gonna have to wait regardless

In post 613, Nachomamma8 wrote:that's unfortunate then because you're gonna have to wait regardless

How long?

Not long. I'm probably being far too careful, but a little extra caution never hurt anyone.

In post 616, Nachomamma8 wrote:Not long. I'm probably being far too careful, but a little extra caution never hurt anyone.

k

It's an ongoing.

Is posting on other parts of the site - needs to start playing the game.

pedit: Lol @Nacho - I thought you were going to say something like that. Is the chair image something that mollie does often?

In post 599, MattP wrote:If Whiskers was scum he would not point out that I'm giving him preferential treating for behaviors I'm picking at Shos for. End of story.

Yeah... tbh, I would. I'd use it against you and try to get you mislynched for it.
When I do it is when we were scum together.

In post 620, Whiskers wrote:

In post 599, MattP wrote:If Whiskers was scum he would not point out that I'm giving him preferential treating for behaviors I'm picking at Shos for. End of story.

Yeah... tbh, I would. I'd use it against you and try to get you mislynched for it.
When I

wouldn't

do it is when we were

both

scum together.

Even if you thought I wouldn't be lynched? I mean, anyone with half a brain can see I'm not getting lynched today.

I mean, it's pointless to go back and forth about this. If you say you would do it I'm not going to debate what you would do with you.

I'd use it against you later. Just because you wouldn't be lynched doesn't mean you could never be lynched.

In post 586, pirate mollie wrote:@ nacho

I don't think scum desp would push me either but I also expect to him to be able to read me a bit better as town. matt, wis are solid town reads, arc has slipped a bit and mala is unsure. I think shos looks like pondscum but I thought that in sabotage too. I will lay off whiskers for now but jesus christ don't let her skate.

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In post 598, pirate mollie wrote:

In post 593, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 586, pirate mollie wrote:but I also expect to him to be able to read me a bit better as town.

The push itself is good, even though it's probably wrong. That's not what a scumDesp ignoring obvious towntells to get a mislynch on you would look like.

the only thing that irks me is how he is ignoring what whiskers is doing. I mean like we literally just saw this happen in a micros.

Why are you talking to other people about things we were discussing and then ignoring my responses?

I've already addressed both of these issues. I'm having trouble reading you this game because what you are doing makes no fucking sense, at any point. None of your pushes have been even remotely useful. You are getting caught up in a catfight with Whiskers and using it as an excuse to tunnel and I don't like it.

And

And even if it were...so what? Whiskers isn't ETL or SG. You are still clinging to this silly "meltdowns are the new scum fad" narrative and its just bad, dude.

Who are Whiskers' teammates?

In post 607, pirate mollie wrote:
I am not talking about etl I am talking about squirrel girl in mala's medical mafia game. never played with her before but she came in with a hate on for me that was an effective smokescreen for scummy d1 play. I am tired of giving this shit a pass.

SG didn't have half as much conviction in her attacks on you as Whiskers does.

Stop comparing them.

PS Whiskers' breakdown of your reads is actually pretty accurate. "Shos looks like pondscum but he did in the doctor micro" yeah no shit, I already told you he was playing scummy intentionally.