Mini 1567 - Such Unusual Pretermen... ...Evil Too!

[MTD]

@mod: V/LA till sunday.

[Belisarius]

Note: The more people push for the Zeph lynch without hearing from the slot

There's exactly one (1) person doing that: me.

I

know

it looks scummy. I know it'll look scummy even if Zeph flips scum.

I don't care.

HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW?

[Juls]

We have 28 hours...who are we lynching? I am good with Zeph/NS...maybe Kagami but I waffle on her.

[Formerfish]

I would like to lynch NS. Based on claim, setup spec, and a general lack of play from him. All he has done today is defend his role and call himself town. Multiple times he has been addressed about his lack of hunting and yet he still sits in the shadows without really taking a stand or making his reads known. Anyone else think that he is trying to ride out the day without saying anything that will make it obvious that he should be today's lynch?

[MTD]

Ok, since I won't be around for deadline I will put a vote now. The only wagons I can see happening are NS or Zeph and while I really would like to hear from the zeph slot again today it looks like that is not gonna happen.
I still don't like the NS wagon, I agree that multiple roles this similar sound unlikely, but I really don't find NS any scummier than FF (or LC for that matter), so I will keep off this.
Instead:
VOTE: Zeph

That is L-1

[Juls]

No, me and NS have changed votes so its not L-1

[MTD]

Uh, right nvm that then.

[Empking]

Vote Count Twenty-Five: I'll rent your hive.

Zephyrus (4) - Belisarius, Cho, MTD
Kagami (1) - LoudmouthLee
Nobody Special (1) - FormerFish, Juls
FormerFish (1) - Kagami

Not Voting: Zephyrus, Lowercase, geists, Nobody Special

With Eleven alive, it is Six to lynch

(expired on 2014-05-17 13:57:32)

[MTD]

@mod: NS unvoted in #581

[Formerfish]

There are like 3 people in this game not acting scummy as fuck. Can we just drop a nuke on the game and kill everyone?

[Belisarius]

3 people?

Only if you count geists as 2.

[Formerfish]

I was counting myself, geists and juls. Everyone else is on varying degrees of the scum scale. Which does worry me a little bit. I am fairly sure that NS doesn't make sense with me being here. Why would town have two roles that transform people? And where is the battery?

[geists]

Beli not giving a shit about how he looks is giving me town vibes. :/

[Formerfish]

I'm also not a huge fan of NS saying "lol guyz, I didn't look at my role pm to see exactly what my abilities were or how they work even though I already claimed, btw I am totally town because I said I was town earlier, here is my wincon that i copied straight from FFs claim." There is too much unexplained and nonsensical about his role.

[LoudmouthLee]

Note: The more people push for the Zeph lynch without hearing from the slot

There's exactly one (1) person doing that: me.

I

know

it looks scummy. I know it'll look scummy even if Zeph flips scum.

I don't care.

HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW?

I don't.

Your actions are inherently anti-town here. You'd rather lynch a player who needs to be replaced? That lynch can be done tomorrow, when the sun rises, and there's a player in that slot. WE GAIN NO INFORMATION BY LYNCHING THE ZEPH SPOT NOW BESIDES HIS ALIGNMENT. We gain no interactions. No voting patterns.

Can we have an extension, Mod, while we wait for a replacement?

.

God, I want to bash my head through a wall.

[LoudmouthLee]

Didn't NS say he could target himself, how would that work with being able to pass it on?

Yes, I can target myself; I still have to pass it to someone else. (I think.....)

@Mod: Can I pass my doohickey to myself, or does it have go to a different player?

Also,

unvote

[Lowercase]

The reason most of the town looks scummy is because the dialogue has somehow shifted to the insanity zone where this setup is based on a large theme game with an unkillable PR-izer (as opposed to say, SUPREME 1) and lynching scum is scummier than not lynching scum.

I like Bel's recent posting and have changed my opinion on Fish's slot (due purely to his role). What I find pretty weird though is that he thinks Juls is a top town read. I don't really know what to think of her "zap" thing, other than that I doubt Kagami knew NS had a gun if even she is scum. The push on NS is pretty bad though, mostly because I don't see why someone would hope on a wagon championed by someone who thinks it is scummy to not post a wincon.

Cho also bothers me a bit. Her posts are all reasonable, but it seems like she's trying to avoid put herself out on a limb too much, and I generally didn't like the Zeph wagon earlier today. I'm not sure what else to say other than that she gives me the sort of vibe Huntress did in my first newbie.

Other than that, I think Kagami is posting much like she usually does. MTD doesn't post much, but I've pretty strongly agreed with most of what he has said. I don't really know what to think about LML.

pedit: I second the motion for an extension.

[Juls]

I'm not sure how exactly to go about asking questions without revealing too much. Needless to say, I question the validity of your claim.

Well,

let me see if I can get a description approved by Empking

, and I'll try to be more forthcoming.

Okay, here we go: my ability changes the target into a thing/creature/being from another dimension. (I do not know if this affects alignment.)

I can use it on dead players, and it *may* bring them back to life.

(I can also use it on myself.)

And the passing happens prior to regular kills.

Okay, I didn't look at my Role PM before asking

, but I've looked now, and it does

clearly say I have to pass it to another person if I use it

.

Sorry, lazy/busy.

Quote 1: Asks Empking about your role
Quote 2: (17min later) Say you can use it on yourself
Quote 3a: Say you didn't look at Role PM
Quote 3b: Clearly says you can't pass it to yourself

Nobody Special, please address this inconsistency and also, please respond to my previous request for your thoughts on the game.

P-edit: @Lowercase First, I have not agreed with FFish on the problem with not posting a wincon. I think that is minor at best. Second, I have consistently said that I don't think NS is town. Why do you characterize my switch as a "jump"? The zap thing may be nothing, I will admit that. We were all online at that time and it really felt like a slip. Kagami said "zap me" and then a few posts later he was like "oh I totally forgot about this gun without a battery". It may not be a slip but a crumb. It also may be nothing and I may be overthinking it. This is part of the reason I didn't want to mass claim. Setup spec is not an exact science.

If someone can point to ONE THING that Nobody Special has done that even resembles scum hunting I would be happy to take my vote off and shut up about him for the rest of the day.

[Lowercase]

I guess I'll give you that. Idk, my position on NS is based on the fact that I think one and probably both of the transforming roles are town. Also because he has a gun.

[LoudmouthLee]

...

Quote 1: Asks Empking about your role
Quote 2: (17min later) Say you can use it on yourself
Quote 3a: Say you didn't look at Role PM
Quote 3b: Clearly says you can't pass it to yourself
...

Unvote. Vote: NS

This is a much stronger lynch than the Zeph lynch for the day.

[Lowercase]

That isn't a discrepancy though.

[LoudmouthLee]

That isn't a discrepancy though.

Defense noted.

Why ask that question in thread and not through PM? It's a modkillable offense generally. It's a blatant attempt to garner town cred.

[Juls]

He claims he asked the mod for an approved version of his role. In that approved version he says he can use it on himself....later, he says his rule clearly states he can't use it on himself. That's a contradiction Lowercase

[Nobody Special]

No: using it and passing it are separate actions. I can pass it without using it, but if I use it I

must

pass it.

And let me ask you this: If it's a good thing to have in the game, are you all willing to lynch me and remove it?

Reads coming in a few minutes.

[Kagami]

Thirding the motion for extension.