Mini 1,573: How Do You Want to Die? (Game over!)

[Burning_Earth]

Uh

I think the shroomish wagon is bad, and ikas jumping onto it.

[Titus]

**discredit of Pants and leaves Anti free to vote Pants

[Titus]

Uh

I think the shroomish wagon is bad, and ikas jumping onto it.

*pulls teeth* why is the shroom wagon bad?

What do you think of anti?

Reads list?

[Dr Pants]

Uh

I think the shroomish wagon is bad, and ikas jumping onto it.

but is ika scum? and lets be honest, the wagon of you, shroomish, and Bubba, who were all also on reinoe, isn't super credible itself

[Titus]

*facepalm Pants you are cutting off reactions...I don't see how ika gets lynched today, so let the scummy players votepark. We learn more from their inaction.

[Antihero]

Anti is scum. The whole ego rationale is the poorest figleaf I have ever seen while playing mafia. "I think everything you do is scummy but you're an egoist so that makes it ok." That's a paraphrase. It works as a discredit of Anti (too caught up in himself) and leaves a vote to vote anti. Anti votes a player and then waits for someone to say no...and his vote winds up elsewhere.

literally none of that makes sense. none of it.
it's not a discredit at all and i don't know drpants well enough to know if he's an egoist or not.

my point was that drpants wanting to shield his ego for being wrong about renoie is another explanation for his illogical pursuit of Snork.

@ anit: do you think titus is scum?

yes. she's retroactively making shit up to milk the fake "scumread" for all its worth and using it as a smokescreen to not get anything done.

furthermore, a shroomish vote would have logically followed from her post (you, a strong townread, are pushing the wagon) if she was really interested in working with her townreads and making stuff happen. at the end of the day, she wants to end up on a failed wagon (me) so that she doesn't get screwed by a VCA later.

the scummy players votepark. We learn more from their inaction.

interesting.
tell me more.

[Titus]

Anti...Dr. Pants pursuit of Snork is scummy but it is ok bc Pants could have a bad ego. It leaves you open to vote Pants later, discredits Pants and allows a later vote on Snork. All the while providing no content and allowing you to bsil.

Nope. I am not pushing policy lynches but actual scumflips. I want someone to explain how you are town or to vote you. Oh and keep trying to flsil push me. It us cute. My mo is to push policy lynches as scum. They are safe. There's three of them here. Of course, you selectively ignore that.

As for this specific instance, I will hold off. However, the three have to jump off or providing reasoning for their positions. Their decisions will reveal unalugned pairs and more. Of course, they myst move first. Steadfast staying put also gives info.

[Antihero]

Anti...Dr. Pants pursuit of Snork is scummy but it is ok bc Pants could have a bad ego. It leaves you open to vote Pants later, discredits Pants and allows a later vote on Snork. All the while providing no content and allowing you to bsil.

what allows me to vote snork later?
what discredits pants?
what allows me to vote pants later?

i'm saying pants is a human with an ego. as opposed to... a robot who doesn't have one.

it's not a character assassination, try as you may to turn it into one.

Nope. I am not pushing policy lynches but actual scumflips. I want someone to explain how you are town or to vote you. Oh and keep trying to flsil push me. It us cute. My mo is to push policy lynches as scum. They are safe. There's three of them here. Of course, you selectively ignore that.

i wipe my ass with self meta.

[ika]

more or less p-dodge, just got home and tired. i will check back later to see what i have missed.

But one thing i did notice and a glance though is B_E posting:

WHERE IS YOUR CATCHUP?

[Burning_Earth]

Meh, I've said all I want to say really.

[ika]

So when you find out im town, who do you suspect next?

[Titus]

1. You left yourself an out to suddenly be convinced by Pants later.
2. You have stated a) Pants play sucjs regarding Snork (discredit one). Furthermore, you have implied this is ok because of ego. This allows you to state anything Pants does is wrong because ego.
3. Anything that does not look super confident can obliterate the cuz ego defense you put up gives you a cya to vote him.

Oh the last part is rich. We all have emotions. That's why we look to intent and emotional inconsistency. Your intent is to fuel Snork v Pants and keep your options open.


BE, town/scum list now.

Ika, that question only encourages BE to tunnel on you and gives him places to go after your lynch. If you are town, such a directed wuestion sucks.

[Antihero]

i never said pant's play sucks and i'm voting snork... never.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Antihero (1): Titus
Dr Pants (3): Snork, MafiaSSK
HighShroomish (2): Dr Pants, ika
ika (3): HighShroomish, Burning_Earth, bubbajack8
Not voting (3): goodmorning, Kitoari, Antihero

With

11

players alive, it takes

6

votes to lynch a player.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2014-06-07 18:25:24).

Kitorari,

is being replaced right

Still working on it. Will check if any prods are needed.

[Antihero]

1. You left yourself an out to suddenly be convinced by Pants later.
2. You have stated a) Pants play sucjs regarding Snork (discredit one). Furthermore, you have implied this is ok because of ego. This allows you to state anything Pants does is wrong because ego.
3. Anything that does not look super confident can obliterate the cuz ego defense you put up gives you a cya to vote him.

Oh the last part is rich. We all have emotions. That's why we look to intent and emotional inconsistency. Your intent is to fuel Snork v Pants and keep your options open.

1. You left yourself an out to suddenly be convinced by Pants later.2. You have stated a) Pants play sucjs regarding Snork (discredit one). Furthermore, you have implied this is ok because of ego. This allows you to state anything Pants does is wrong because ego.3. Anything that does not look super confident can obliterate the cuz ego defense you put up gives you a cya to vote him.Oh the last part is rich. We all have emotions. That's why we look to intent and emotional inconsistency. Your intent is to fuel Snork v Pants and keep your options open.

you don't have a right to bitch when snork says everything you say is completely devoid of any kind of logic.
because it is.
and no, i'm not discrediting you. you discredit yourself because everything you say about me is wild speculation and illogical jumps that are just plain wrong.

like seriously, your jumps are longer than evel knievel's. to say that i'm somehow fencesitting on snorkvpants is wrong (and it assumes i'm approaching it from a scumvtown POV, which is untrue).

[StrangerCoug]

HighShroomish and MafiaSSK have been prodded.

[goodmorning]

ISOs so far:

Spoiler: Kitoari

Didn't tick V/LA, oops. This post is just here so I don't run afoul of the timer. Expect more within the hour or so.

This is his only post.

NULL - nothing to see here.

Spoiler: SSK

No scumhunting beyond "gut" and "trust me, I know."
Random hammer on reinoe because "well I guess the arguments were pretty convincing."
Since then, a vote on Pants ("gut")and this post

You and THE COMPUTER ATE MY CASE

(i'll do it tommorow)

I anxiously await.

But did the cases get done?

Which is pretty well useless at best.

NULL-SCUM - not much content and what's there is mostly useless; hammer was pretty sketch.

Spoiler: Shroomy

Bitches about finals, faffs about with RQS.
No reads supplied beyond "ika is pinging" and "bubba is Town."

NULL-SCUM - again, not much content.

Spoiler: bubba

Shows a slight tendency to agree with people, but active and hunting from the beginning.
Slightly less posts than some people have.
Plenty of original analysis.
Slightly fewer reads than I might like to see.

NULL-TOWN - not as much content as he could have, but generally decent; lack of many clear reads gives me slight reservations.

[Titus]

My responses were completely logical. All you can do is say moonlogic. Frankly, you did say Pants push on Snork sucks is saying his play sucks because that is most of Pants play. Only in response to my commenting that you left your options open did you close them in 612.

Then the lightbulb goes off to attack me in 614. Basically it is, I disagree with you so you can't talk + discredit where you blame me for it. If I really was discrediting myself, someone else would be saying it.

Go on. Give me associatives. I will keep highlighting your scummy nature and you will keep getting butthurt until you are lynched and we win.

[Antihero]

yes.
snork is saying it. and he's your "townread", but i guess gun-to-head you won't read that.

you inhabit an alternate universe.

Go on. Give me associatives. I will keep highlighting your scummy nature and you will keep getting butthurt until you are lynched and we win.

if this were a crappy crime show, this would be the scene where the bad guy grins and says "you can't prove anything".

also, i'll have you know my rump feels perfectly fine. i can only imagine how sore and stretched out yours is, though, given the massive bullshit case you pulled out of it.

[Titus]

Snork isn't looking for places to hedge.

If all you can do is say my case sucks and vote no one, I think it makes my point. You want safety for you and your buddies.

[Antihero]

right... and snork's sane. you're not. also, not hedging when i say snork is my strongest townread and that's the way it's always been.

VOTE: Shroomish

your move, kasparov.

[Burning_Earth]

Meh, I've said all I want to say really.

T/S list
Scum reads
Ika (I'll continue to read him this way until proven otherwise
SSK (Like ika, saying nothing)
Antihero (I agree with Titus)

Town
Everybody else



Also someone tell me why the shroomish wagon is a wagon?

[MafiaSSK]

I'm

Vote: HighShroom

. Obv scum.

[Burning_Earth]

Someone... TELL ME!!!!!!

SSK: why is shroom scum?

[bubbajack8]

You have to be kidding SSK.