In post 550, Ranger wrote:I've read everything, but I don't think anything's changed~~~
(-.-)
Ranger-wa will still try and help though!
VOTE: Postie-chan.
L-1~~~
In post 585, SirCakez wrote:I was going to curse out Yume but it was all fake cool
VOTE: shotty
Can't get any pressure on Klingon so this is next best
These two people are the ones I townread the most right now.
Out of the two, the scumread they share in common is Klingon, so I'd be willing to put my vote there instead.
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:15 am
by drmyshottyizsik
so scum!ircher is telling me that I better vote Klingon or the all powerful scircher is going to death tunnel me as a PL?
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:17 am
by Ircher
In post 601, drmyshottyizsik wrote:I already found scum. Maybe even two, still think UT is better than >> money << INSURANCE! At this point I am here just to push the wagon.
Also if we PL based on #4 we should all die.
I'd rather vig you, but it seems none of the other wagons really have any support.
I'd lynch Fate, Klingon, or Postie right now, but out of those, I prob. prefer Fate. Klingon is lynchable cuz its the only scumread both SirCakez and Ranger hold in common. Postie is just flailing and having reflexive loverizer is not useful at all for town (well, it is, but vastly neg. util), so I'd be ok with a lynch there too.
Pedit: Basically, except this is town!Ircher (and as an fyi, I'm a lot more active here than I was in that newbie you modded.... Keep that in mind)
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:21 am
by drmyshottyizsik
Why do you always scum read people who wagon you?
OMGUS isn't even a scum tell with you because you ALWAYS do that.
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:23 am
by Ircher
In post 390, Fate wrote:Yume please return your vote to Ircher. I will vouch for Katuski's inability to explain himself and overall stubbornness
It maybe Katsuki's style, but that isn't an excuse to let him get away with every single anti-town behavior he does. Like, that's basically Katsuki's excuse for everything. What's with the WKing here? (Literally, WIFOM is his excuse for everything)
In post 392, Fate wrote:Katsuki literally does not think it matters in the slightest that he voted you after you were confirmed.
There was 0% chance you were getting lynched, this is the idea you still haven't gotten into your head since your discussion with (Clumsy?) on page 2-3.
Painting Katsuki as scum for "voting the IC" is beyond retarded at the level of play Katsuki and I deem acceptable
It is absolutely not retarded. Voting the IC IS a scummy behavior; it seeks attn and due to the stupid WIFOM argument (Oh, scum would
never
do that cuz it's too flashy!), Katsuki gets away with it. Katsuki did later say he read, so I want to know the real reason why he decided it was okay to vote the IC 10 pages after the confirmation. Even if it is a null thing, I
want
to know the reasons behind it. Again, stop the insults and explain the WKing going on here.
Pedit: Who knows?
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:24 am
by drmyshottyizsik
Well Ircher 90% of the time you are wrong, seriously as a player take a step back and try to be objective here. If you trying are town, scum hunting if beyond voting whoever votes you
In post 327, Yume wrote:The point is that Ircher accused you of not seeing that I am IC, not that I am getting lynched....stop trying to twist others' words.....
Not much point in discussing with the IC, but that's not what happened.
Then what did happen?
In post 344, Katsuki wrote:No real point, not particularly interested in determining your alignment.
Now when was it assumed that I was not paying attention?
When you voted Yume, the conf!town IC, 10 pages in.
Again, I elaborate even though what I was saying was easy to infer.
In post 370, Katsuki wrote:Fate you can clean up this clownfest I'm done.
Buddying with Fate. Don't like it.
In post 373, Katsuki wrote:I gave you a response. You're just an absolute dumbfuck with a lack of comprehensive ability.
1) Again, don't insult other people's intelligence (especially when you are the one who is being stubborn)
2) You gave like what? Half a response at best?
In post 384, Fate wrote:Can't do much more than lynch scum at this point and wait for Yume to die and drmy to get vigged, Katsuki
Hold out a bit longer
Sigh you don't know how hard these past few years have been.
I will note that I was aware of Yume's IC status when I voted her. I'm sure that you knew that though.
That confession just makes it worse. (Also note the continued buddying of Fate). So, you did something blatantly anti-town, stubbornly decided to engage in circles with Yume and me, and created all this WIFOM in an attempt for towncred. I want you to explain your true motives asap.
Ok, my vote was bad, but this one is too. Too opportunistic imo.
VOTE: Katsuki - Stop throwing WIFOM everywhere and start engaging
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:41 am
by Ircher
@Ranger
Why do you townread Katsuki and Fate?
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:43 am
by drmyshottyizsik
Here is what just happened. Ircher read my post thought, fuck gotta vote someone else, clicked display posts by user and look and thought, ok shotty, hmmm, next is fate been there done that, ok next is ircher, well I know I'm scum can't attack myself, oh kat is next on the list, let's pretend to scum read him
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:46 am
by Ircher
So, yeah, @Shotty -- I'll give you a few choices:
1) We PL you
2) We lynch Klingon (Compromise lynch for me; nothing strikes as scummy there but nothing really looks town there either)
3) We lynch Fate (If Fate flips scum, then I would highly suspect Katsuki as partner)
4) We lynch Katsuki (In general, being antitown; also commited an anti-town move for WIFOM purposes, association with Fate, and finally, is being more unreadable than you).
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:49 am
by drmyshottyizsik
Ircher VOTE: ircher
today you die, you are acting scummy as fuck and you will eat rope. You're not worth a vig's bullet
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:55 am
by SirCakez
Ircher these wall cases you do are really bad
I still think you're town but just copy pasting an ISO and calling random posts scummy is pretty weak
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:52 am
by massive
In post 386, Ranger wrote:{Cakez-san, Ircher-kun, Radiant-sempai}
{Katsuki-san, Fate-hakase}
{inu-neko-chan, shotty-hakase}
{Postie-chan}
{Clumsy-kun, Klingoncelt-chan}
{massive-san}
I'm so tireeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed~~~
(v.v)
Ranger, how come I'm at the bottom of your list, but you'd rather vote for Postie? (And, maybe more importantly, why am I not massive-sensai?)
Catdog needs a kick in the pants. Not many people in this game I like working with, so either or both of hiplop/UTL would be nice.
So how is voting the IC alignment indicative? How does voting the IC make me scum?
From mafia town wiki
Obviously getting revealed as town will make you a target for the mafia's night kill
so it is best to avoid revealing yourself for as long as you can.
And since they cannot night kill, they resort to next best thing: voting. Of course, scum can just wait in this case, but that means giving time to weaken them which they can't afford. Losing members is suboptimal for scum. That's why it makes you scum.
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:01 am
by SirCakez
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:18 am
by massive
Yeah, I'm tired of this "voting the IC is scummy" crap too. We're not lynching Yume and we're not lynching anyone based solely on them voting for Yume. Move on.
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:20 am
by Katsuki
Yes so instead of utilizing a lynch for another potential mislynch, they're going to go through the hassle of gathering townie votes to waste a lynch on someone on a timed life, and who so happens to be mod-confirmed town as well.
Scum must also be shivering in their boots at the thought of you destroying them, so much so that they need you lynched D1.
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:22 am
by Yume
According to that wiki, scum primary target is an IC when there is one, so yes.
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:30 am
by Katsuki
You're right. Scum are lynchers to ICs, it is part of their win condition to lynch the IC. That must be why the scum are in such a frenzy to lynch you, because otherwise they lose the game!
Damn, I didn't think anyone would catch me like that...
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:38 am
by Yume
Then explain why that website says ICs are a primary target. I studied several games on the site where at least one player was IC. They all got deaded. So you see, I know quite a bit about that role. Scum kill ICs. It was what happened in all of these games.
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:39 am
by Ircher
In post 622, Katsuki wrote:You're right. Scum are lynchers to ICs, it is part of their win condition to lynch the IC. That must be why the scum are in such a frenzy to lynch you, because otherwise they lose the game!
Damn, I didn't think anyone would catch me like that...