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Wingback (1): Elyse
GuiltyLion (0):
Elyse (0):
duppin (0):
BulletNLynchproof (0):
TellTaleHeart (0):

Not Voting (5): GuiltyLion, duppin, BulletNLynchproof, Wingback, TellTaleHeart

With 6 alive it's 4 to lynch.

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Seven Seas of Rhye



I am a huge Queen fan!

This is going to be in bits and pieces, chronologically first, then summary of where I stand on everyone.

Aristo's reaction to Elyse in Post 32 is odd. He throws shade on my predecessor but when asked to vote him, he turns around and semi-accuses Elyse. The latter could be slight distancing.

Elyse's response in Post 33 also pings. She seemed more focused on IPS than Aristo. She doesn't question Aristo on why he was throwing shade without voting, rather just trying to convince him to vote.

TTH's Post 38 makes a lot of sense and doesn't look like something contrived to start bussing Aristo.

Duppin's early pressure on Aristo and Fire (posts 41, 43, 45, 47) flow smoothly and he's fairly consistent.

Don't like Elyse putting Aristo at L-1 with piss poor reasoning ("I agree with FA and Duppin") in Post 63. It smacks of the type of carelessness that mid-level scum show when pushing partners.

Aristo was bussed. That much is obvious considering nearly everyone had suspicion of him. He was a weak scum player and a goon who also got early pressure so is a juicy bus target.

The most awkward push was Elyse's. What TTH pointed out, and what Fire and Duppin discussed and agreed with flowed organically and you can see how their thought processes developed as they started suspecting Aristo. Elyse was lagging in that regard. She didn't comment on Aristo's initial scummy posts at all. After reading Post 32, I find it very odd that Elyse's response to Aristo wasn't something along the lines of "" She completely glosses over that part.

Her eventual vote on Aristophanes in Post 63 is notable for a few reasons. First, it's a sheep vote. Second, it puts Aristo at L-1. There's a lack of caution and a bit of reckless abandon in the vote almost as if hurrying to be in on the wagon of a partner, like she doesn't want to miss out and let town lynch Aristo all on their own which would suck for her.

In post 587, TellTaleHeart wrote:Also, I'm townreading BnL though I'm unsure if the reason I'm doing it is really justified. :S

Right off the bat, Wingback's SK obsession is pretty awful.

Mind explaining why you're townreading him?

So Wingback is going to spend his time trying to paint me as scum.

yawn

In post 594, Elyse wrote:

In post 591, BNL wrote:Wait, now that I think about it - Fire was the only one who had a scumread on Elyse, right?

He wasn't scumreading me at the end of the day.

Hmm

So why do you think FA was killed?

So, Wingback is my #1 pick for scum now for his awful "push" on GL. Elyse is would be my second pick due to FA nightkill, though I admittedly did not have the time to reread (all weekdays more busy for me now), and I will probably do so tomorrow.

IMO TTH is more likely to be scum than Elyse is

Not that I really think either are scum, but, y'know

In post 605, BNL wrote:

In post 594, Elyse wrote:

In post 591, BNL wrote:Wait, now that I think about it - Fire was the only one who had a scumread on Elyse, right?

He wasn't scumreading me at the end of the day.

Hmm

So why do you think FA was killed?

Idk I was scumreading him.

In post 606, BNL wrote:So, Wingback is my #1 pick for scum now for his awful "push" on GL. Elyse is would be my second pick due to FA nightkill, though I admittedly did not have the time to reread (all weekdays more busy for me now), and I will probably do so tomorrow.

You are milking this push for a lot. Why don't you explain in your own words what's scummy about it?

In post 607, GuiltyLion wrote:IMO TTH is more likely to be scum than Elyse is

Why? The one issue I have with TTH is lack of engagement. She was online yesterday but didn't weigh in or analyze the game and I thought her one post was pretty weak but if she is scum, she's played very well early on in the game.

Also, thoughts from everyone on what I've posted so far would be appreciated.

In post 610, Wingback wrote:Why? The one issue I have with TTH is lack of engagement. She was online yesterday but didn't weigh in or analyze the game and I thought her one post was pretty weak but if she is scum, she's played very well early on in the game.

Post 586. I think it's more likely that scum!TTH makes this post about town!Elyse than town!TTH makes this post about scum!Elyse.

Also Elyse was consistent in pushing Aristo during the mid-D1 lull period, TTH jumped ship for Postie.

Wingback you picked the wrong one to go after!

In post 611, Wingback wrote:Also, thoughts from everyone on what I've posted so far would be appreciated.

Well while it is obviously a possibility I think it is unlikely and there is no way Elyse is getting lynched today.

There isn't.

I was going to slow dance this, but I can't keep it in my pants. I'm a one-shot neapolitan.

I can confirm that Elyse is town. She's not getting lynched. Ever.

VOTE: Wingback

Just to be clear - you get results as VT or not VT, correct?

Leaning towards that claim being town. I can't see a scum-TTH wanting to confirm Elyse when Elyse would have to be her final mislynch. It would be a whole lot harder to get Duppin lynched. I'm still confused about how overpowered town seems to be. If we're right and the town is OP, then there's nothing to worry about. Checked the wiki whether neapolitan-specific godfathers and they are not normal so Elyse is confirmed.

I feel like I'm hitting a lot deadends here. Not my best game. I'm going to finish my re-read and double-check TTH and Duppin just to see if I haven't missed anything. If BNL is scum, he should surrender right now and save me the trouble.

But yeah, I'm really town here. Elyse and GL are confirmed. I can't see TTH's move as a scum tactic at all and her D1 push on Aristo made the most sense. It has to be Duppin or BNL and Dupping is clearly town.

VOTE: BulletproofNLynchproof

I'd rather not get mislynched just for the heck of it. Vote him and it's a win. Vig me if he's somehow town (hint: he's not). Pretty sure about this.

Now that I think about it, his end of D1 pussyfooting around the Postie lynch was incredibly scummy. I forgot about that entirely getting distracted with GL first, then Elyse.

Best explanation for Fire being nightkilled was he caught onto BNL in the neighborhood PT.

Need to head off to bed but I'd really appreciate votes on BNL. If you need convincing, I'll elaborate on why in the morning. Short version is that I got really bad vibes from a) his townread of me, and b) the way he hedged on his read of me conditional to Postie flipping scum and said that if she were town, then I'm scum. BNL and GL both did this a little bit but BNL's logic was a lot scummier. I pointed out that if we lynch Aristo -> GL -> BNL, we win but then got distracted with double-checking Elyse's posting.

Vote BNL and if you need me to elaborate, I'll do it tomorrow.

In post 615, TellTaleHeart wrote:There isn't.

I was going to slow dance this, but I can't keep it in my pants. I'm a one-shot neapolitan.

I crumbed it in my first post and in the course of doing so, learned that there is a "neapolitan pizza."

I can confirm that Elyse is town. She's not getting lynched. Ever.

VOTE: Wingback

Why did you want to hide this?

I would like to follow up to this question before is lynched (whether me, Wingback, or anyone else), for important reasons I do not want to say yet. But just in case I do, . I know what I am doing.

Hmmm. Ok cool glad to be confirmed.

I refuse to lynch anyone other than Wingback. His posts on this page alone make him deserve the noose.

In post 615, TellTaleHeart wrote:There isn't.

I was going to slow dance this, but I can't keep it in my pants. I'm a one-shot neapolitan.

I crumbed it in my first post and in the course of doing so, learned that there is a "neapolitan pizza."

I can confirm that Elyse is town. She's not getting lynched. Ever.

VOTE: Wingback

Why did you check her?

Actually it doesn't matter, I don't really care. Pretty sure the game ends with Wingback/BNL. Elyse is now confirmed town and I'm pretty confident TTH is town as well.