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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:55 pm
by CloudKicker
Wow macy just went from 80% correct reads to nothing

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:05 pm
by Pine
Hmmm.

I think I can live with it.

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:13 pm
by Pine
Lurking to day end I think

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:03 pm
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
Don't know if I'm feeling this game as of current :/

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:04 pm
by Pine
I dig the game, I don't know if I dig playing.

I'm assuming this ennui will pass as it usually does.

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:27 pm
by Pine
Yeah definitely not taking Vecna's bait right now

Let's lynch Leonshade

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:31 pm
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
Pine, I think I know what I need.

So far I don't have like any real reads and that's due to 300 pages being fucking daunting. Also I have to concur now that the amount of posting just fucking sucks because you realistically can't catch up.

So, just a small favor and I can take the wheel from there. Can you tell me where you think a good range of reads for me to be at is? Doesn't matter what they are, you know I can fit the narrative to the case(remember being able to build a scum case on Camn? who was obv!town?). After that I can basically push what I got from there and I'm golden.

If not, okay >_>

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:20 pm
by Pine
Umm hmm. That's a tall order.

I have a standard go-to recipe for fabricating a reads list, which I'd happily share with my Ginhai, but not in a thread that will eventually become public. Certainly not where Mastina can see it, she's already scary close to soulreading me. I play a lot with Firebringer too, and he's got a lot more insight into my scumgame than I'd like as it is. Can't take it elsewhere, because rules.

Okay, so taking you out and adding ghost Peregrine in, you need 17 reads, minus 3-5 you can get away with just chucking into the "no read" bin. Have a couple of unpopular opinions, and try to pocket a few people. I don't have a super firm grasp on where your existing reads are, so if anything I say here contradicts what you've said so far, override it.

"Reads"

Alisae - Hard Town. Easy to pocket this game. Interested in forming a Town bloc.
Nero Cain - Town. Vulnerable to flattery, but is also kind of suspicious. Play it by ear.
Yuri - Meh. If you want to SR this, ISO nancy and CTRL+F Yuri's name. Otherwise let it go.
MathBlade - Null Town. You don't really see how they could be scum, but aren't seeing pro-Town behavior. Quirky distinctions like that can go a long way towards fabricating a Towntell.
Leonshade - Town. This might be a good place for you to take an unpopular stand and make a Towncase. We can engage in a bit of scum theater arguing over it.
Creature - I would have a hard time making a scum case, as Creature's meta is pretty transparent to me, but this might be a good opportunistic SR you could get away with.
Brian Skies - Soft Town. Say you ISOed him and his entrance was pretty Towny, as was Drixx, but there's been a whole lot of meh since then and the read is stale.
Caesar Wills It - Advertise your read on me as complicated due to our relationship. Say that you see the points against me, but also know that I tend to give no fucks as Town, but you don't quite trust your own read.
Lil Uzi Vert - Classify it as neutral and be curious about my pending case.
Vecna - (I lack the perspective to give an unbiased opinion on Vecna. I tend to get into character when faking a hard SR on someone.)
CloudKicker - Light scum.
davesaz - Scum
<< =========Leaving comments on these scumreads blank, you'll have to create original reasoning to make it believable anyway.
Maxous - Scum
Sondam - Scum

NoticeMeSenpai - Light Town. You don't need to elaborate on all of them.
nancy - Soft Town. Might be a threat. Play nice, don't overcommit in case we need to eliminate her. Seize on opportunities to pocket.
Peregrine - Hard Town. Where was the scum kill if he was the vig? Concede that the lack of a second kill N2 indicates that one was probably stopped, so there is a possibility that he was vigged, but that doesn't make him scum either. When/if a second kill does show up, declare him lock Town.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:36 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
<3

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:05 am
by Pine
@Mod: If we pick up the Roleblocker wonder, and use it on the player with Stonehenge the night we kill them, will that prevent the Stonehenge reveal from triggering?

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:13 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
In post 609, Pine wrote:
@Mod: If we pick up the Roleblocker wonder, and use it on the player with Stonehenge the night we kill them, will that prevent the Stonehenge reveal from triggering?
>_>

Pine is a strategist god

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:19 am
by Pine
Actually, I double-checked the wording after I posted that, and unless Nahdia contradicts, Stonehenge is phrased as a night action to designate a target. It should be blockable.

Seriously considering grabbing Alhambra now.

I know, Mastina. There are reasons not to. There are also good reasons to do it, because Town seems to be just incapable of keeping their role claims in their pants.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:30 am
by Nahdia
Yes Stonehenge is blockable.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:30 am
by Firebringer
This scum chat is soo long

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:31 am
by Pine
It's already almost as long as Hunger Games II

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:31 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
In post 612, Nahdia wrote:Yes Stonehenge is blockable.
Oohhhhhhhh

That brings heat to PV and his reads, equal out the window

P-Edit: Fire darling, you modded Hunger Games, you know how much Pine and I love our day chat

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:32 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
In post 614, Pine wrote:It's already almost as long as Hunger Games II
+1

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:46 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
I hate not being able to have a phone at the lab. Wanted to take a selfie with me and my face mask. Deadass wore gloves, lab suit, gas mask, worked under hood vent. The best part is that it's contained in this small ass vial and the hole to pour out of is less than a millimeter wide.

If interested, the LD50 is .5 to 10 mg /kg

Fun facts is that chronic exposure leads to severe liver damage, cancer, coma and if you're really going the extra mile, death :D

Oh and we got methamphetamine sample.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:18 am
by Pine
In post 9687, Caesar Wills It wrote:
We concede to the Senator's wishes, and will abandon Our efforts against the suspected felon Leonshade for this session of the Senate.

Senator Nero, while We appreciate that thou art actually answering Our question instead of merely throwing a tantrum, simply lacking presence of mind or failure to deliver on one's promises is a scant reason to hazard a man's life. Much the same could be said of your Glorious Emperor, after all, though We anticipate that situation being rectified within the next day or so.

Senator Creature, desist with your ragings against Us and those who yet express a desire for measured action. Though We are yet unprepared to throw caution to the wind does not make Us obstructionist. We have conceded that the time for personal vendettas is past, but We are yet two days from the point where a panicked conviction is Our only option.

As such, We are willing to forego Our stronger allegations in favor of those We merely suspect, as viability in this session has become a matter of import. We propose a compromise on the rogue Sondam, as We find the case against Senator davesaz to be insufficient at present.


VOTE: Sondam

Senator Mathblade, your allegations against Senator Nero are preposterous and wholly non-viable at present. Desist.
In post 9689, Creature wrote:VOTE: Sondam
Yeah, still got it.

Quickly, I need feedback and thoughts on going for Alhambra/Roleblocker. I have priority today, and it would be a long-term investment, but it would throw away our chance to have me get A1 priority on Renaissance wonders.

I have a feeling that Roleblocker would be very handy to have on some nights, but useless others.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:20 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
Go for it, it's better to be prepared than to not.

I know you're defending Nero but remember, Nero is pushing Math hard and if Math is role blocked after Math being on Nero's ass for so long, it's a perfect frame

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:30 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
Creature kill?

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:32 am
by Pine
Nah

Not sure who to kill, but it isn't Creature. He's hard to control, but he can sometimes be nudged

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:32 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
Reminds me of Twisted, killed him off and it got quiet.

Simply Creature overpowers your voice, he's on a lot so he's unifying the time zones.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:37 am
by Pine
Hmm. You have a point.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:50 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
9741 furthers my point.

I ask you for a retort, without Creature, who is the most town read loud voice?