Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:35 pm
because I actually thought I'm replying to sunlitIn post 598, northsidegal wrote: why are you talking as if i wasn't the one who asked you (referring to me in the third person)?
because I actually thought I'm replying to sunlitIn post 598, northsidegal wrote: why are you talking as if i wasn't the one who asked you (referring to me in the third person)?
but do you have any reason to believe that?In post 599, Lapsa wrote: sometimes
if obvtown is influential and correct - then it's a juicy target.
I guess Nero would qualify
in Shinobi's case - I believe motive to be different.
which is - to make contagious chain of town scumreads on each other
this is entirely inconsistent with everything you've been saying since about the end of day one - why should i believe you?mix of always oscillating null, slight town/scum lean.
sounds convenient but I can't help that
WIFOM moreIn post 598, northsidegal wrote: surely if i were scum and that was my plan then i would have typed something up over the night and actually started pushing him today, wouldn't you think?
this is what I mean by bullcrapIn post 598, northsidegal wrote: also, what does "panicking" have to do with anything?
vig + dead encryptor + calling out possibility of ASP framing => lack of plan, fearIn post 598, northsidegal wrote: if i'm scum here, why am i scared?
yesIn post 601, northsidegal wrote: but do you have any reason to believe that?
please, be more specificIn post 601, northsidegal wrote:this is entirely inconsistent with everything you've been saying since about the end of day onemix of always oscillating null, slight town/scum lean.
sounds convenient but I can't help that
seriously?In post 601, northsidegal wrote: why should i believe you?
"wifom" is a lazy excuse for a point that doesn't make sense. you're saying that my plan here was to frame asp and to get a flashwagon on him - my play today isn't consistent with that theory.In post 602, Lapsa wrote: WIFOM more
i'm trying to figure out what you're saying - i didn't see the clear connection between me voting asp and me panicking.this is what I mean by bullcrapIn post 598, northsidegal wrote: also, what does "panicking" have to do with anything?
I can't figure out town intent for such a question
and what does this have to do with me voting asp?vig + dead encryptor + calling out possibility of ASP framing => lack of plan, fear
my question isn't logically broken, nor does it imply that i'm admitting to being scared, nor am i losing coherence at all. if you were more specific i could give you a better response than this but you've just stated things that aren't true. you implied that i'm scared scum; "why would i be scared if i were scum?" is a perfectly valid question - your reasoning on that wasn't entirely clear.also - your question seems to be logically broken.
it sort of implies that you admit being scared
are you losing coherence on purpose to look like you are scum hunting?
In post 603, Lapsa wrote:yesIn post 601, northsidegal wrote: but do you have any reason to believe that?
mind telling me why?please, be more specificIn post 601, northsidegal wrote:this is entirely inconsistent with everything you've been saying since about the end of day onemix of always oscillating null, slight town/scum lean.
sounds convenient but I can't help that
you know what i'm referring to. the entire game you've been treating shinobi as if he's scum - there's never been any indication that your read on him was oscillating or that it was a slight town/scum lean.seriously?In post 601, northsidegal wrote: why should i believe you?
yes, seriously - like i said, what you're trying to tell me is entirely inconsistent with your play the entire game. is there some reason i should believe you? some indication that you actually held this opinion before?
it does make sense. you basically asked me to defend you in your placeIn post 604, northsidegal wrote:"wifom" is a lazy excuse for a point that doesn't make sense.In post 602, Lapsa wrote: WIFOM more
not anymore for sureIn post 604, northsidegal wrote: you're saying that my plan here was to frame asp and to get a flashwagon on him - my play today isn't consistent with that theory.
perhaps there wasn't intent at all and you were just panickingIn post 604, northsidegal wrote:i'm trying to figure out what you're saying - i didn't see the clear connection between me voting asp and me panicking.this is what I mean by bullcrapIn post 598, northsidegal wrote: also, what does "panicking" have to do with anything?
I can't figure out town intent for such a question
I see it as a scum slipIn post 604, northsidegal wrote:and what does this have to do with me voting asp?vig + dead encryptor + calling out possibility of ASP framing => lack of plan, fear
ok... taking back that oneIn post 604, northsidegal wrote:my question isn't logically broken, nor does it imply that i'm admitting to being scared, nor am i losing coherence at all. if you were more specific i could give you a better response than this but you've just stated things that aren't true. you implied that i'm scared scum; "why would i be scared if i were scum?" is a perfectly valid question - your reasoning on that wasn't entirely clear.also - your question seems to be logically broken.
it sort of implies that you admit being scared
are you losing coherence on purpose to look like you are scum hunting?
mostly PoE. it's the only scenario I got that makes complete sense
no - I didn't knowIn post 601, northsidegal wrote:you know what i'm referring to. the entire game you've been treating shinobi as if he's scum - there's never been any indication that your read on him was oscillating or that it was a slight town/scum lean.
don't think there's much indication of that if anyIn post 605, northsidegal wrote:seriously?In post 601, northsidegal wrote: why should i believe you?
yes, seriously - like i said, what you're trying to tell me is entirely inconsistent with your play the entire game. is there some reason i should believe you? some indication that you actually held this opinion before?
^ talking about this bitIn post 604, northsidegal wrote: i'm trying to figure out what you're saying - i didn't see the clear connection between me voting asp and me panicking.
just because at the moment i'm not convinced that you're scum doesn't mean i'm taking everything you say as the truth, nor should i. my disbelief of your opinion on shinobi is unrelated to my read on you - it comes from being inconsistent with your play.In post 608, Lapsa wrote:why shouldn't you believe me?
i'm not sure i'd really call that "emphasis". i was explaining why i had asked the "panicking" question - the reason was clarification. i've never claimed to not understand you in general, just on specific points that were unclear to me.Lapsa wrote:another interesting scumtell is that you claim not to understand me
perhaps that's true. perhaps not
thing is - town usually don't emphasize that at all
1 i wasn't asking you to defend me - the question was largely rhetorical. i don't think there's a good answer as to why i wouldn't have something typed out or why i wouldn't have actually pushed for asp's lynch if i was scum, and i'm trying to say that that shows that i'm town.In post 606, Lapsa wrote:1 it does make sense. you basically asked me to defend you in your place
2 not anymore for sure
3 perhaps there wasn't intent at all and you were just panicking
4 I see it as a scum slip. hasted reaction - as if it's completely obvious that ASP must be scum and everybody should unquestionably follow
i think it would do you well to reevaluate. it seems to me like the mozamis and shinobi flips should have shaken up your reads but you seem to be in the exact same place that you were in yesterday.In post 607, Lapsa wrote: mostly PoE. it's the only scenario I got that makes complete sense
assuming you are questioning events of this particular game and not game theory in general
when you say this, are you referring to today or previous days? like, are you saying that nothing forced you to share today or previously?best reason there is is that nothing really forced me to share my read on Shinobi
could you explain what you mean by this? i'm not sure what "using affirmation to sow doubt" means. the confusion mainly comes from the "using affirmation" part.then again - so far you are doing crap job for me to care.
it feels like you are just using affirmation to sow doubt
then why do you even expect there to be a good reason that somehow magically confirms genuineness of my Shinobi read?In post 611, northsidegal wrote:just because at the moment i'm not convinced that you're scum doesn't mean i'm taking everything you say as the truth, nor should i.In post 608, Lapsa wrote:why shouldn't you believe me?
my disbelief of your opinion on shinobi is unrelated to my read on you - it comes from being inconsistent with your play.
that leads to my next pointIn post 611, northsidegal wrote:i'm not sure i'd really call that "emphasis". i was explaining why i had asked the "panicking" question - the reason was clarification.Lapsa wrote:another interesting scumtell is that you claim not to understand me
perhaps that's true. perhaps not
thing is - town usually don't emphasize that at all
i've never claimed to not understand you in general, just on specific points that were unclear to me.
Soft guilty or hard guilty?In post 618, Transcend wrote:Guilty
oh that is so confusingIn post 615, northsidegal wrote: when you say this, are you referring to today or previous days? like, are you saying that nothing forced you to share today or previously?
i don't expect there to be one, i was asking if there was one that you wanted to show.In post 619, Lapsa wrote:then why do you even expect there to be a good reason that somehow magically confirms genuineness of my Shinobi read?
i'm trying to understand where you're coming from - what your read is based on, what your thought process is, et cetera. it's part of how i form my reads on people - that's why i felt so useless yesterday. tons of people were unwilling to interact or even give reasons as to their reads. i'm trying to look at things objectively here, or at least from your perspective. just because you're pushing for my lynch doesn't necessarily make you scum.that leads to my next point
we are going back and forth for quite awhile - yet somehow you haven't really revealed anything.
this is precisely what I mean by panicking. either lurking (which I'm sure you did) or "discussion" full of doubt, questions and vagueness
for Christ's sake - I'm calling you a scum. there's a huge pink elephant in the room
at the very least vote me and shout out loud:
Lapsa is lying, he's clearly making things up to cover his ass!
oh, i thought this was a gambit at first but i was confused - i wouldn't think you'd gambit a fake guilty. gunsmith, right?Transcend wrote:Hard