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Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:08 am
by ByronVilla
In post 599, Hopkirk wrote:I have a role that's likely weak, slightly swingy.
That's why I was wondering if we should mass claim.
After looking at previous normals, thinking we should claim if we have roles, but not what they are.
Idk I mean I'd rather push for the actual roles in a mass claim. We're at a point in the game where revealing our roles shouldn't be too big of an issue

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:13 am
by ByronVilla
If we look at our numbers we're 7-1, as I've said before we have 3 days and knowing people's roles and having them claim right now is really going to help us. To me there's little to no reason to not claim our full roles, and suggesting that we shouldn't warrants a lot of suspicion from me, as it seems like you're trying to dodge claiming your role for no apparent reason (unless you're scum and need time to come up with a fake claim)

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:18 am
by Hopkirk
No other claims would basically confirm some towns. Too many would also confirm some town. Lynchpool shrinks either way.
Roleblockers are very common and no active scum roles have flipped. If we have me, someone else, and Dunn as claims, no point telling mafia whether they should go for me or the other person just yet.
Some PRs are helped by knowing who is claiming prs.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:19 am
by Hopkirk
Role names might be a good idea. It depends who claims.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:23 am
by ByronVilla
I have a role. I'd rather wait until everyone else has claimed to reveal mine, and I have a way to prove I have the role so you don't have to worry about me biding my time as scum waiting to fakeclaim.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 5:51 am
by BuJaber
Frankly we only care about 2 types of PR.
If they don't exist we can mass claim.

If they exist together mass claim or not will be roughly the same in terms of positive or negative effect on town.

If they exist separetely mass claim would be really bad.

For now I don't think we should mass claim.

And I'm ready to VOTE: NK15

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 5:54 am
by BuJaber
IF the majority decide to mass claim then NK15/hopkirk/TIAM/gustavo should start. Dunn already did.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 6:33 am
by TwoInAMillion
I have no idea what your order is based on, but I am a vanilla townie. Nothing to hide here.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 7:18 am
by ByronVilla
In post 607, TwoInAMillion wrote:I have no idea what your order is based on, but I am a vanilla townie. Nothing to hide here.
I assume the order is doing all the people outside of the town pool, then the people inside (Brawl is being omitted because we already know he's a neighbor)

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 7:28 am
by TwoInAMillion
I thought I was in the townpool? The only people that think I am scum are in the scumpool.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 7:32 am
by ByronVilla
You added yourself to the townpool, the mutually agreed on townpool by most of the town is me and Bu (I'm not sure if Brawl is in there too, but I know it's been me and Bu at least). There's been too many people against you to put you into it anymore.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:04 am
by BuJaber
You were only there to appease the rest. It's a diplomatic gesture.
Also because brawl has a tendency to think differently than I do so it'd be unwise of me to ignore the possibility that he's right.

But yes basically those 4 names + dunn makes up everyone's combined scum pool.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:32 am
by TwoInAMillion
I haven't done anything to warrant being removed from the town pool. The people trying to remove me from it have basically no reasoning.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:35 am
by TwoInAMillion
I mean I'm vanilla townie so town will likely win anyways regardless but still poor play.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:48 am
by Dunnstral
In post 612, TwoInAMillion wrote:I haven't done anything to warrant being removed from the town pool. The people trying to remove me from it have basically no reasoning.
Why do you care so much about "being in the town pool"?

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 10:03 am
by TwoInAMillion
I'd prefer to be endgamed when the town wins, is all. As far as getting the win it probably doesn't matter but I've seen games where a town win is all but assured and town still loses.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 10:14 am
by Not Known 15
In post 615, TwoInAMillion wrote:I'd prefer to be endgamed when the town wins
wait a moment WHAT?

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 10:16 am
by TwoInAMillion
I don't like being mislynched, what's wrong with that?

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 10:27 am
by TehBrawlGuy
In post 612, TwoInAMillion wrote:I haven't done anything to warrant being removed from the town pool. The people trying to remove me from it have basically no reasoning.
You haven't done anything to warrant being IN the town pool.

Claim order should be hopkirk because he softed and is on the block, then NK15, then Gustavo.

I think NK and Gustavo shouldn't claim today unless we pivot the lynch.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 10:49 am
by ByronVilla
I'm fine with just Hopkirk claiming now, I'll have what I need by then to reveal my role.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 10:56 am
by Hopkirk
My role is confirmable.
Want to hear whether NK is a pr or not (not what) before claiming.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 10:57 am
by Hopkirk
UNVOTE: TIAM

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:23 pm
by ByronVilla
Ok I'm too impatient. I have what I need to make my claim if Hopkirk's role is confirmable.

I'm the Town Neapolitan.

N1: I checked Hopkirk, and he was not a Vanilla Town
N2: I checked TIAM, and he was not a Vanilla Town

So TIAM, why you lying? That's a rather scummy thing to do don't you think?

If you think I'm lying about being Nea, we still lynch you to see if you're villy or not and that will prove/disprove my claim

(Also I tried to crumb and failed miserably as I realized I put other capitals around, but I don't think there's any other possible crumbs in this post)
In post 567, ByronVilla wrote:
I
'm currently getting a tad worried on time.
M
aybe that's me overthinking stuff but idk.

N
ow if we look at the people left we can see there's 8 left, and if we assume
1) A lynch happens each day and someone is killed each night
2) There's only one scum left
then it means that we have 3 more days to lynch scum, and 3 suspects currently stand out to me.
E
ach of them for the same kind of reasoning, which might be linked to my pretty clear distaste for inactivity but '
A
h well' let's get onto the list. (Oh hey this is Bu's 3 suspects too. That's weird huh)
VOTE: TIAM

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:48 pm
by Dunnstral
VOTE: Twoinamillion

If you had checked me you'd have gotten no result and I'd be confirmed too so I'm questioning your targeting but luckily you hit scum

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:56 pm
by ByronVilla
I trusted your claim enough, I didn't think that scum would make that claim and risk losing it all D3. TIAM and Hopkirk I both hit due to them being in the nice middle area between towny and scummy, and usually my gut leads me to think there's one scum there.