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Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 2:59 pm
by SirCakez
In post 598, havingfitz wrote: In post 532, SirCakez wrote:dram why does koki suicide like this as scum? presumably they didn't know about Wis' swap thing.
What does the Wisdom claim have to do with the Koki claim?
because wisdom was proposing swapping koki out
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:05 pm
by SirCakez
gal why is realmen town
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:08 pm
by SirCakez
and eddie cane for that matter
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:12 pm
by northsidegal
it's a light read, he's had a few observations that seem to come from a pretty genuine mindset.
actually slightly reconsidering looking back over the ISO.
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:12 pm
by havingfitz
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:12 pm
by northsidegal
i expect eddie cane to more aggressively get himself townread as scum. maybe that's a bad assumption / won't hold true for this game, but i'm not really interested in lynching in my own group at the moment anyways.
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:15 pm
by SirCakez
i'm just gonna talk to myself
if it's 1-1-1
then prob 1 of (eddie, fitz) (riku, pine) (realmen, dram)
hmm I think (fitz, pine, realmen) is plausible
pine is like lockscum
fitz eddie realmen leanscum
riku dram nullish
nothing explains all these trs on realmen tho
sorry if this is too spammy! @implo
i just keep thinking of stuff to add
P-edit: thanks for actually acknowledging that re;realmen! unlike some people...
eddie is not top of my kill list atm anyway, i think flips will be really revealing as to his alignment
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:17 pm
by northsidegal
@Mod, V/LA through thursday
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:18 pm
by SirCakez
buj townread is reaffirmed by ISOing
i like the townblock that is forming of (wis, koki, gal) which makes me think lynching 3 is a better idea
dv remains a total wildcard
wis being unable to read muffin also is making me shaky there
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:20 pm
by SirCakez
can probably toss buj in that townblock
mm muffin's claim was pretty townie now that i think about
hmmm
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:20 pm
by dramonic
That townblock is MINIMUM least 66% scum.
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:20 pm
by dramonic
edit: 50%
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:22 pm
by SirCakez
highly disagree, koki's claim is town and wis' hardheadedness here is town for him and gal has been townposting since that wall responding to DV
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:23 pm
by havingfitz
If we know there is scum in G2 if we believe Koki's claim...why would we swap someone out of G2 (potentially not the scum) into group three (for potentially a G3 scum) and then vote out G3...potentially helping scum dodge a bullet instead of getting lynched?
If people believe Koki's claim and that he is town wouldn't the best move be to swap him into G3 for anyone (potentially a G3 scum) and vote out G2 for possibly 2 scum removed.
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:23 pm
by zMuffinMan
ok, so after thinking it through i don't think anyone should swap anyone and we just lynch group 2 - it's safer to lynch g2 than doing a swap and potentially fucking things up (or hitting less scum as a result)
this also covers the outside chance that kokichi is just scum, even though i think that less likely than him being town atm. swapping koki out isn't a bad idea per se, i think it's just less safe
i'm considering the merits of one other possibility where i swap wisdom for myself and he swaps me + someone else outside of group 2. this might give us a better chance to hit multiple scum
there may be other better alternatives i havent thought of
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:26 pm
by SirCakez
In post 613, havingfitz wrote:If we know there is scum in G2 if we believe Koki's claim...why would we swap someone out of G2 (potentially not the scum) into group three (for potentially a G3 scum) and then vote out G3...potentially helping scum dodge a bullet instead of getting lynched?
If people believe Koki's claim and that he is town wouldn't the best move be to swap him into G3 for anyone (potentially a G3 scum) and vote out G2 for possibly 2 scum removed.
everyone is confident in pine/riku scum so the logic goes if it's not one of them we get the other next day
and there's three pretty confident townreads in 2 (buj, wis, koki) that are worth saving
zMuffinMan wrote:ok, so after thinking it through i don't think anyone should swap anyone and we just lynch group 2 - it's safer to lynch g2 than doing a swap and potentially fucking things up (or hitting less scum as a result)
this also covers the outside chance that kokichi is just scum, even though i think that less likely than him being town atm. swapping koki out isn't a bad idea per se, i think it's just less safe
i'm considering the merits of one other possibility where i swap wisdom for myself and he swaps me + someone else outside of group 2. this might give us a better chance to hit multiple scum
there may be other better alternatives i havent thought of
this seems like a waste when i'm sure we'll need the swaps later
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:28 pm
by havingfitz
You are omitting RMOJ from all your scum scenarios...why are you questioning people's tr on him/them/she/it if you aren't scum sorting him/them/she/it?
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:30 pm
by zMuffinMan
what do you mean "need the swaps later"?
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:33 pm
by SirCakez
In post 616, havingfitz wrote:
You are omitting RMOJ from all your scum scenarios...why are you questioning people's tr on him/them/she/it if you aren't scum sorting him/them/she/it?
read my posts on this page again
like for later days if scum fuck us up by putting obvtowners with obvscummers
that doesn't really make sense now that I think about it but it's what i meant
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:36 pm
by dramonic
In post 615, SirCakez wrote:everyone is confident in pine/riku scum so the logic goes if it's not one of them we get the other next day
and there's three pretty confident townreads in 2 (buj, wis, koki) that are worth saving
There is no word for how wrong you are <_<
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:37 pm
by havingfitz
In post 615, SirCakez wrote:everyone is confident in pine/riku scum so the logic goes if it's not one of them we get the other next day
and there's three pretty confident townreads in 2 (buj, wis, koki) that are worth saving
Then we should be swapping pine for whoever the most likely to be town in withing G3. If that RMOJ or zMuff...the man...the " "legend" "...the claimer? Or if riku is suspect as well...zMuff could swap himself with riku to double G3's scum prospects.
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:38 pm
by dramonic
Wisdom is the one who claimed.
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:39 pm
by havingfitz
I read realmen in post 606 but it didn't register. I had RMOJ on the brain.
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:39 pm
by Kokichi Oma
So Wisdom, what happens if Pine isn't the scum? I like the safe option of switching me out for someone scummy.
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:40 pm
by Eddie Cane
In post 582, Kokichi Oma wrote: In post 530, Eddie Cane wrote:okay i'm bored of my "reaction test"
group 3 has scum because Muffin either rolled scum, therefore it has scum, or he rolled town and scum either did a 1 / 1 / 1 split or they put a couple with Muffin because nobody wants to lynch a legend on the first game back. the latter works depending on who in this game would ahve known muffin even by name aside myself, so if muffin could do a list that'd be swell and if people want to self-identify that's townpoints. fits with it being the old tryhard group. my first choice is not swapping because its possible ROJ is one of the scum there and switching is a liability. obviously, this is wifom city but i don't see a better place to push and this is by far the best grouping. i think wisdom's role probably makes him town, unfortunately.
Who here actually knows who Muffin is? Like in terms of legend status.
I asked this yes
