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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:55 am
by podoboq
Dude, this is still just OMGUS. Just because TW doesn't get you or agree with you doesn't mean he's scum.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:56 am
by Nibbui
In post 596, the worst wrote:
so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing except laughing at you??
Of course you should be laughing at me, you should know from the start that I was just trolling around
but since I said that you weren't paranoid enough of me before you seem to be trying to scum read me for that
seems pretty artificial
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:56 am
by the worst
Why won't you play with me?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:58 am
by podoboq
In post 601, Nibbui wrote:Of course you should be laughing at me, you should know from the start that I was just trolling around
So to clarify, is your scumread on sheep actually just a giant reaction test?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:58 am
by Nibbui
I mean, I can play with you but you're nullscum right now because that's exactly the reaction I expected from scum you after saying what I said before
You were static on my read before and you know that I troll around a lot so I can only say that sounds artificial you trying to revalueate me right now, my scum game isn't like this
wait one bit, I'll talk about skitter
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:59 am
by the worst
In post 601, Nibbui wrote: In post 596, the worst wrote:
so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing except laughing at you??
Of course you should be laughing at me, you should know from the start that I was just trolling around
but since I said that you weren't paranoid enough of me before you seem to be trying to scum read me for that
seems pretty artificial
Your play here has looked nothing like your scum meta. The horseshit you're pushing now is the first time you've looked like a manipulative scumfuck which is the only reason I've been paranoid of you previously (bar coalition where I wasn't sold on your predecessor). Me paranoia scumreading you isn't even a reliable town indicator.
Mind telling me what you're actually angling at here because we've trodden over this ground and you've chosen to ignore my responses. You can't have it both ways. "this is obviously my towngame but TW is scum for not scumreading me" is so offensive to the way I've tried to reach out to you >:c
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:59 am
by Nibbui
In post 603, podoboq wrote: In post 601, Nibbui wrote:Of course you should be laughing at me, you should know from the start that I was just trolling around
So to clarify, is your scumread on sheep actually just a giant reaction test?
Yeah
why didn't you find weird that from a logical mindset I totally got into lolmode?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:01 am
by podoboq
In post 606, Nibbui wrote: In post 603, podoboq wrote: In post 601, Nibbui wrote:Of course you should be laughing at me, you should know from the start that I was just trolling around
So to clarify, is your scumread on sheep actually just a giant reaction test?
Yeah
why didn't you find weird that from a logical mindset I totally got into lolmode?
I honestly thought you were just kinda mentally unstable. I was trying to bring you back to the real world a bit.
UNVOTE:
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:02 am
by Nibbui
shit, I got excited and forgot that I still needed sheep reaction
I'll need to meta him really?
I wanted to get a reaction good enough that he couldn't fake...
Mafia Universe layout is too shiny for my eyes...
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:03 am
by the worst
Nibbui I'm not sure how you expect town!me to react to the this either :/
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:03 am
by the worst
Make an account and use the parchment skin or w/e
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:07 am
by Nibbui
In post 605, the worst wrote: In post 601, Nibbui wrote: In post 596, the worst wrote:
so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing except laughing at you??
Of course you should be laughing at me, you should know from the start that I was just trolling around
but since I said that you weren't paranoid enough of me before you seem to be trying to scum read me for that
seems pretty artificial
Your play here has looked nothing like your scum meta. The horseshit you're pushing now is the first time you've looked like a manipulative scumfuck which is the only reason I've been paranoid of you previously (bar coalition where I wasn't sold on your predecessor). Me paranoia scumreading you isn't even a reliable town indicator.
like duck, it's not about my slot itself, it's the way you would treat a slot with my circumstances. It's hard to explain but it's not a necessary "town/scum tell" on you, it's just something I can read you and it's hard you to deny that it helps read your alignment when it has consistently been that way in past games.
If I had used this method to read you in past games, I hardly would've misread you.
In post 605, the worst wrote:Mind telling me what you're actually angling at here because we've trodden over this ground and you've chosen to ignore my responses. You can't have it both ways. "this is obviously my towngame but TW is scum for not scumreading me" is so offensive to the way I've tried to reach out to you >:c
ok, you have half a point here.
still, I've been talking about null reads all this time and you always know firsthand when I try to troll but only now that I said "you haven't been paranoid enough of me" you actually try to revalueate your read on me and tell that you have a problem with me not taking a firm stance?
can you see how it's weird?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:08 am
by Nibbui
In post 609, the worst wrote:Nibbui I'm not sure how you expect town!me to react to the this either :/
You seemed to have a very static read on me and pretty skeptical of my trolling so I thought you would look and say
"hmmm, this is Nibbui trying a reaction test isn't it?"
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:09 am
by the worst
In a superficial way that I have been paranoid of you in past games, sure.
Within thread context, no it's not weird and this angle is objectively unlikely to catch a wolf and objectively very likely to lynch someone who's trying a new angle on reading you.
pedit: you've dropped in my townreads fyi I just haven't felt the need to vocalise it because NSG is a wolf : ]
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:10 am
by the worst
but ye basically most of your play here is reaction testy. your scumclaim stuff is kinda annoying and slightly >rand wolf but mostly null. so I'm not sure why that's meant to make me go "OH LOL NIBBUI IS SCUM DIE" and you thinking it would just shows me that you have no idea how my playstyle works
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:11 am
by Nibbui
I was planning this to try to read you guys better from the moment I joked scum slipping there
I wanted to make you aware and skeptical of my reaction testing, and talked with you about the fact you had a static read on me, because I sensed that the next time I tried a reaction testing, town!you would be more comfortable and think that I was reaction testing from the start while scum!you would try to revalueate your read on me to look townie to me because I said I didn't like your lack of paranoia.
I'm not sure how effective it is but it's what I have now, the game state was pretty static before and this was the best I could come up with.
I forgot about waiting for sheep though...
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:11 am
by the worst
also check your history of reading me :p in the newbie game you tried to mislynch me. in the game I was scum you hard townread me. coalition was pretty obvious, also you roll wolf against me a lot so ye
plus we've been playing together on and off for like more than half of my entire mafia career so it shouldn't be surprising that my style changes sometimes
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:12 am
by the worst
hot take: reaction tests are boring and work sometimes. you waiting for sheep would've been better but your reaction test did almost nothing except prove you're half-assing this game.
pbqdbqbdpqbdp's reaction was pretty towny in a way I didn't expect, so you can have that one. I also think Punk Bill is probably town.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:14 am
by podoboq
At one point, my sig was just a whole bunch of different ways people have misspelled by name. This is one of my favs.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:14 am
by Nibbui
But I'm actually taking on account these games. It's from those games that I set my bar to read you here and that's what is confusing.
I'm using the differences between your scum play and town play that I've seen and now I've come to nullscum on you.
Do you disagree with the read? I mean, I appreciate self-meta so I don't mind if you try to explain how scum!you would be different here.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:17 am
by Nibbui
In post 617, the worst wrote:you waiting for sheep would've been better but your reaction test did almost nothing except prove you're half-assing this game.
I dislike how you are treating this.
I think podoboq reaction and your reaction to it are one of the most AI things in your guys ISO
what you want to read otherwise? We've been explaining our reads it had been ages and the consensus is PB scum leaning you and we needing more from mastina, soda and NSG.
I think that what I just did produced a fair amount of content for we to discuss right now and I don't see how you can say that I'm half-assing here.
I think I've never taken a game more seriously and skeptical than this one.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:20 am
by Nibbui
In post 614, the worst wrote:but ye basically most of your play here is reaction testy. your scumclaim stuff is kinda annoying and slightly >rand wolf but mostly null. so I'm not sure why that's meant to make me go "OH LOL NIBBUI IS SCUM DIE" and you thinking it would just shows me that you have no idea how my playstyle works
my scum claim stuff was never meant to make you scum read me or anything. It was only to make a possible town!you more aware of how I like to troll around and do reaction tests.
same thing about when I talked about your paranoia, it wasn't meant to try to read you, it was meant to set my bars to how to read you after what I was planning to do and just did right now.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:22 am
by the worst
In post 619, Nibbui wrote:But I'm actually taking on account these games. It's from those games that I set my bar to read you here and that's what is confusing.
I'm using the differences between your scum play and town play that I've seen and now I've come to nullscum on you.
Do you disagree with the read? I mean, I appreciate self-meta so I don't mind if you try to explain how scum!you would be different here.
Very obviously
My scumgame is only passable because it imitates my towngame etc. etc. the one time you saw me as scum I was low browing badly because the setup was a joke
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:24 am
by the worst
In post 620, Nibbui wrote: In post 617, the worst wrote:you waiting for sheep would've been better but your reaction test did almost nothing except prove you're half-assing this game.
I dislike how you are treating this.
I think podoboq reaction and your reaction to it are one of the most AI things in your guys ISO
what you want to read otherwise? We've been explaining our reads it had been ages and the consensus is PB scum leaning you and we needing more from mastina, soda and NSG.
I think that what I just did produced a fair amount of content for we to discuss right now and I don't see how you can say that I'm half-assing here.
I think I've never taken a game more seriously and skeptical than this one.
I think you missed the next bit about how I granted that pbqdqbdpbdqpdbd's reaction was surprisingly towny
not sure how my reaction would be different because you presented me with a situation where you're objectively wrong on me + have ~4 reads I dislike? there's no other way for me to respond to it than ask for more information and point out that it presents as laughable
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:25 am
by Nibbui
It's not only from that game from Espe
I'm considering as well the marathon games although they are a bit less reliable
ok I get your point but anyway, what would you have done different here as scum then?