Open 754: Fire and Ice (Game Over) Fire Mafia wins.

[Succinct]

@BEF if you just replaced into this game and saw two scum flips, one for each team, wouldn't you look for "connections" too?

Precisely. I isoed the mod once I saw those flips in OP, and BEF = Fire was my first conclusion.

I

favor

roster as Ice, but have no hard evidence backing this guess.

What dead town player was "threatening to me?" Because scum of course would be threatening to me so using that as a connection is just wah wah wah.

This is multiball. Scum flipping doesn't clear you of killing them; quite the opposite.

You think I killed ruirui becasue I was "threatened" by him. He was barely active... And ofrhz WHO WAS SCUM was after me? That makes me scum?

And how would Fire-scum know ofrhz was Ice?

They wouldn't.

Vedith was gunning for my lynch and he turned out to be fire so that would make us partners according to succinct... nice try...

Beg your pardon but I saw zero evidence of that. I

do

see evidence of the contrary,

But Vedith was quite successful in directing the lynch away from you, no?

This. I reference,

Allomancer (4)~

Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, ‪Dr Worm, GrandWazoo

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, rosterfoster, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet

During the peak of the BEF wagon, Vedith spearheaded the counterwagon on Allomancer. And not long after,

Allomancer (7)~

Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, ‪Dr Worm, GrandWazoo, BrightEyedFish, rosterfoster,Pinturicchio

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet, Springtrap

Allomancer was lynched in part from Vedith's push.

I do acknowledge Vedith briefly voted BEF, but that vote was IMMEDIATELY removed, never to return.

[BrightEyedFish]

Vedith was spearheading the Vedith wagon from his first post onward...

[BrightEyedFish]

I mean the Allo wagon

[pinturicchio]

I'm glad someone else is doing some effort

[BrightEyedFish]

@BEF if you just replaced into this game and saw two scum flips, one for each team, wouldn't you look for "connections" too?

Precisely. I isoed the mod once I saw those flips in OP, and BEF = Fire was my first conclusion.

I

favor

roster as Ice, but have no hard evidence backing this guess.

What dead town player was "threatening to me?" Because scum of course would be threatening to me so using that as a connection is just wah wah wah.

This is multiball. Scum flipping doesn't clear you of killing them; quite the opposite.

You think I killed ruirui becasue I was "threatened" by him. He was barely active... And ofrhz WHO WAS SCUM was after me? That makes me scum?

And how would Fire-scum know ofrhz was Ice?

They wouldn't.

Vedith was gunning for my lynch and he turned out to be fire so that would make us partners according to succinct... nice try...

Beg your pardon but I saw zero evidence of that. I

do

see evidence of the contrary,

But Vedith was quite successful in directing the lynch away from you, no?

This. I reference,

Allomancer (4)~

Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, ‪Dr Worm, GrandWazoo

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, rosterfoster, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet

During the peak of the BEF wagon, Vedith spearheaded the counterwagon on Allomancer. And not long after,

Allomancer (7)~

Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, ‪Dr Worm, GrandWazoo, BrightEyedFish, rosterfoster,Pinturicchio

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet, Springtrap

Allomancer was lynched in part from Vedith's push.

I do acknowledge Vedith briefly voted BEF, but that vote was IMMEDIATELY removed, never to return.

Your are right that fire wouldn't know ofr was ice but you are building your case on me that concludes I am Fire and thst I KNEW ofr was Ice scum....

Don't you see your contradictions?

[BrightEyedFish]

Right now Scum are most likely all among Allo BEF worm springtrap maad and Grand.
As it stands I don't lynch outside if these 5.

I'm going to take the silence as a no

I think people most likely to be scum with Allo are in {Springtrap, BEF, maad}

I do think scum are unlikely to bus in this setup, but BEF didn't really have any choice given that he was run up himself.

Ofrhz would have been Scum hunting so BEF and Maad I don't see as Scum buddy at all.

VOTE: BrightEyedFisy

Pintu, Eyes and Rooster still town for me.

Do you think Maad flips Scum more often than BEF?
If so I'll vote here if you think so.

If it's from BEF posting who is Orfhz partner, it feels like it's something that could have been discussed between BEF and their buddy already. Not to mention that they are looking for the second ice Scum rather than Scum as a whole.

I think Ruirui might be ice Scum.
Grand, Ceej and BEF as fire? Well, 2 of them.

Good, who's scum for you?

Scum is in Grand/BEF/RuiRui and maybe Ceej although I like them better as town now.
RuiRui is highly likely to be Ice mafia so I'd lynch Grand or BEF today. Given that PPintu thinks BEF has some town tell I',m preferable for Grand.

And yes, I think Fire mafia want the ice mafia killed today to prevent them having the night kill.

And here are quotes from Vedith where he is pushing for me to be lynched...

Are you just flat out lying or creating a line that fits with your read on me?

[brassherald]

All the council members were there, but it seemed a decision would take a bit longer, still

Votecount 3.6

BrightEyedFish (3) ~

succinct, insomnia, rosterfoster

RosterFoster (2)~

BrightEyedFish, ceejyavinoya

insomnia (1) ~

pinturicchio

Not Voting (1)~

maadneet

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2019-04-14 17:00:00).

[rosterfoster]

BEF scum often pushes their partner to distance but actually makes sure that a different Lynch happens/doesn't resist it as they would if they were town with a scumread. That's what Vedith was doing.

[ceejayvinoya]

I'm so damn tempted to hammer

Pintu how is your insomnia read?

[Succinct]

you are building your case on me that concludes I am Fire and thst I KNEW ofr was Ice scum....

I said no such thing? I said the opposite; you

didn't

know and in fact thought he was town.

[pinturicchio]

I'm quite sure that insomnia is scum and I think BEF will flip green, but I've been ignored before and I honestly don't care anymore

[insomnia]

What makes you believe I’m scum though?

[maadneet]

So there are also two different wagons I saw that dissolved before end of day:

One of their numbers had vanished

Votecount 1.4

rosterfoster (5)~

GrandWazoo, Eyes Without A Face, Springtrap, Ceejayvinoya, BrightEyedFish

Ceejayvinoya(3)~

Pinturicchio, RuiRui, rosterfoster

Allomancer (2)~

Vedith, Allomancer

BrightEyedFish (1)~

ofrhz

Vedith (1)~

Clemency

Not Voting (1)~

‪Dr Worm

D1, rosterfoster wagon.

A cake was brought out for them to eat, the council members were puzzled.

Votecount 2.3

maadneet (3)~

Pinturicchio, Vedith, Ceejayvinoya

GrandWazoo (2)~

Dr Worm, BrightEyedFish

BrightEyedFish (1)~

Rosterfoster

Eyes Without a Face (1)~

GrandWazooo

Not Voting (3)~

RuiRui, maadneet, Eyes Without A Face

Votecount 2.4

maadneet (4)~

Pinturicchio, Ceejayvinoya, Dr Worm, RuiRui

GrandWazoo (1)~

BrightEyedFish

BrightEyedFish (1)~

Rosterfoster

Eyes Without a Face (1)~

GrandWazooo

Not Voting (3)~

maadneet, Eyes Without A Face, Vedith

D2, my wagon.

So D1 wagons we have roster, Allo, BEF; D2 was me and Grand, mostly.

My reads seem to line up with insomnia's, BEF as fire scum, ceejay as ice. Will hammer BEF in 24hr unless someone convinces me otherwise.

[BrightEyedFish]

So there are also two different wagons I saw that dissolved before end of day:

One of their numbers had vanished

Votecount 1.4

rosterfoster (5)~

GrandWazoo, Eyes Without A Face, Springtrap, Ceejayvinoya, BrightEyedFish

Ceejayvinoya(3)~

Pinturicchio, RuiRui, rosterfoster

Allomancer (2)~

Vedith, Allomancer

BrightEyedFish (1)~

ofrhz

Vedith (1)~

Clemency

Not Voting (1)~

‪Dr Worm

D1, rosterfoster wagon.

A cake was brought out for them to eat, the council members were puzzled.

Votecount 2.3

maadneet (3)~

Pinturicchio, Vedith, Ceejayvinoya

GrandWazoo (2)~

Dr Worm, BrightEyedFish

BrightEyedFish (1)~

Rosterfoster

Eyes Without a Face (1)~

GrandWazooo

Not Voting (3)~

RuiRui, maadneet, Eyes Without A Face

Votecount 2.4

maadneet (4)~

Pinturicchio, Ceejayvinoya, Dr Worm, RuiRui

GrandWazoo (1)~

BrightEyedFish

BrightEyedFish (1)~

Rosterfoster

Eyes Without a Face (1)~

GrandWazooo

Not Voting (3)~

maadneet, Eyes Without A Face, Vedith

D2, my wagon.

So D1 wagons we have roster, Allo, BEF; D2 was me and Grand, mostly.

My reads seem to line up with insomnia's, BEF as fire scum, ceejay as ice. Will hammer BEF in 24hr unless someone convinces me otherwise.

Does the fact that there is no flipped scum on the roster wagon tell you anything?

[BrightEyedFish]

@BEF if you just replaced into this game and saw two scum flips, one for each team, wouldn't you look for "connections" too?

Precisely. I isoed the mod once I saw those flips in OP, and BEF = Fire was my first conclusion.

I

favor

roster as Ice, but have no hard evidence backing this guess.

What dead town player was "threatening to me?" Because scum of course would be threatening to me so using that as a connection is just wah wah wah.

This is multiball. Scum flipping doesn't clear you of killing them; quite the opposite.

You think I killed ruirui becasue I was "threatened" by him. He was barely active... And ofrhz WHO WAS SCUM was after me? That makes me scum?

And how would Fire-scum know ofrhz was Ice?

They wouldn't.

Vedith was gunning for my lynch and he turned out to be fire so that would make us partners according to succinct... nice try...

Beg your pardon but I saw zero evidence of that. I

do

see evidence of the contrary,

But Vedith was quite successful in directing the lynch away from you, no?

This. I reference,

Allomancer (4)~

Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, ‪Dr Worm, GrandWazoo

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, rosterfoster, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet

During the peak of the BEF wagon, Vedith spearheaded the counterwagon on Allomancer. And not long after,

Allomancer (7)~

Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, ‪Dr Worm, GrandWazoo, BrightEyedFish, rosterfoster,Pinturicchio

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet, Springtrap

Allomancer was lynched in part from Vedith's push.

I do acknowledge Vedith briefly voted BEF, but that vote was IMMEDIATELY removed, never to return.

You say that you have no hard evidence that roster is scum so you aren't voting there.

But you also have no HARD evidence on me other that speculation that is truly false.

I think you and roster are the remaining scum.

[brassherald]

Blah, Blah Blah, Flavor Text

Votecount 3.7

BrightEyedFish (3) ~

succinct, insomnia, rosterfoster

RosterFoster (2)~

BrightEyedFish, ceejyavinoya

insomnia (1) ~

pinturicchio

Not Voting (1)~

maadneet

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2019-04-14 17:00:00).

[pinturicchio]

VOTE: BrightEyedFish

[ceejayvinoya]

noooooo

this better flip scum

tho to be fair I don't imagine the day going anywhere else.

[pinturicchio]

Vivi, I'm pretty sure you're scum, hope the other remaining scum shoots you. I don't think BEF flips scum honestly, but we'll have a better PoE tomorrow. I already saved BEF once, I don't think I could save him a second time

[ceejayvinoya]

One day you're going to have to change the way you read me

It gets boring when I always get scumread by you and you end up to be town too

[brassherald]

The time had come, the walrus said, to speak of many things

Votecount 3.FINAL

BrightEyedFish (3) ~

succinct, insomnia, rosterfoster, pinturicchio

RosterFoster (2)~

BrightEyedFish, ceejyavinoya

Not Voting (1)~

maadneet

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

BrightEyedFish has been lynched.

[brassherald]

End of Day 3

The day had been long, but finally a brave soul stepped forward and said "Well, I'm tired of this, if you'll all be stubborn, I'll join you and hope that the dragons just kill each other. Let's lynch the

Vanilla Townie

thus it was said, and thus it was.

Night 3 ends in (expired on 2019-04-12 20:45:00)

[brassherald]

End Night 3

The council awoke and found first, some terrible news. Frozen in a block of ice was the unmistakable form of maadneet, who had a stethoscope stuck to his neck. Maadeneet,

Town Doctor

has died.

On the other hand, a burnt corpse was found as well, along with the carcass of an ice dragon. It seems, without followers, the ice dragon died. Insomnia

Ice Mafia Goon

has died, along with his draconian master.

[brassherald]

DAY 4 BEGINS

"Just a fire goon left" says a note left by the town's mathematician. He did real good math.

Votecount 4.0

Not Voting (4)~

Ceejayvinoya, Pinturicchio, succinct, rosterfoster

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2019-04-23 07:00:00).

[Succinct]

With the doctor dead, no reason not to
VOTE: No Lynch
As none of us are conftown or above reproach.