Role Call I (Game Over)

[momo]

Just distribute prs to the weak players and watch scum forced to either keep PRs or strong town players alive

Guys, as long as the universal backup is a town slot, scum can't kill N1 to get rid of a PR.

Scum is just going to kill who is reading them the best. It's not that complicated Saudude.

They can't get rid of a PR.

I made this clear in post 530.

[momo]

Catch-ups aren't necessarily alignment indicative, but they are an easy way for scum to pretend to be town. So these are my thoughts on Cheeky's catcup.

I think our main priority should be figuring out who we town and scum read.

Holy crap nice post.

What? How? Why? This post wasn't original (I'm pretty sure someone had already said something similar earlier in the game) and I just repeated the sentiment because I thought it was a good idea. Scum could have just as easily made this post. It was one line and barely alignment indicative.

I'd rather you be king

No, thanks. I mean, I'm much obliged, but that's a BIG responsibility that I'd rather give to someone who has both good reads and a strong personality. (My reads can vary from game to game, but a town leader I know I am not)

P-edit: It took me some time to read that post, but it confirms my read on momo (and why I wanted him to be King initially). Thanks for being a townie, momo

Guys shouldn't the strong PRs go to people we want NK'd? Rather than top townreads?

As has been explained multiple times already. No. As long as the backup is a TR, this is irrelevant.

Given that the possibility of our slot being scum has been the single largest discussion of the game so far and I don't want to play an entire game of that, I'd rather not try to create incentives for scum not to remove us from the game so let's just give us the IC, kill Momo for having a terrible scumread on me, and make MariaR hydra the universal backup because I scumread the shit out of both heads and would like to find a resolution to that issue that doesn't involve having to push a lynch on them.

No.

NAI post I guess. But this is why I don't like catchup posts. You're contributing to a conversation that the entire game has moved on for. This could easily just be town behind, or scum speaking on irrelevant topics hoping to gain towncred.

My guts says Cheeky should get the IC role.

Why?

Scum are gonna try to make quick work of whoever they feel they can push easily, and I don’t think we have the luxury to wait around for someone to be confirmed town in a game like this. I think giving it someone who is unlikely to be lynched or night killed is much more optimal. It could force scum to kill a potential endgame option earlier then they would like to.

I don’t see you as lynch bait and I don’t see you as a high priority night kill. What I can see however is a world in which scum may leave you alive because you’ve been pocketed or just pose no threat to them. You’re pretty solid as town though and I think scum don’t want to deal with a Cheeky that’s going to be taken out of the lynch pool late game.

Uh.. this is so contradictory I'm like wtf.

This post is just WIFOM. Cheeky is turning down IC so she must be town. But scum Cheeky would have known this and could have done it to appear town....So on and so forth.

So you want me to be killed later because I'm not a threat? There's no logic here.

A50 why aren't you commenting on something more useful?

Town.

What? Changing the subject when you're getting pressured is not town.

is it that they won't be worth the NK for scum?

Yes. Vanilla, Timid & Inactive are all low impact roles so unlikely to be NK'd. Unfortunately they are also so low impact they should not be given to the stronger town players.

I'll take one of these.

WIFOM again. Though I can't think of a good reason someone town would specifically ask for one of these roles. Feeling like WIFOM from a scum perspective but idk.

Given that the possibility of our slot being scum has been the single largest discussion of the game so far and I don't want to play an entire game of that, I'd rather not try to create incentives for scum not to remove us from the game so let's just give us the IC, kill Momo for having a terrible scumread on me, and make MariaR hydra the universal backup because I scumread the shit out of both heads and would like to find a resolution to that issue that doesn't involve having to push a lynch on them.

I agree with this post quite a lot. Btw the reason I'm okay with momo dying isn't just reads but the way it seems they're trying to command the game, they seem to be wanting a leader position without outright calling themselves a leader. The execution of the scumteam guess feeds into this feeling.

What...

Even though this is a thing, CT said earlier in her catchup that she thought the slot was town. Could be a light bus but still supporting.

this is actually really valid criticism

my response is that i'm trying to lynch the people that i think are scum...since nobody else is taking initiative, i am...if someone more articulate than me wanted to push someone i think could be scum, i would take a backseat

I feel like this post is articulatist. :/

Sothis Stefon Styx is being replaced.

WTF!!

I thought that was the purpose of his wall of colors. My primary issue with Momo is that I do not believe him when he says all of his scumreads were independent.

You're so scummy it's making me cringe.

There's nothing about this post that is particularly scummy. Oversoul thought I was lying and called me out on it. This and the earlier post about me being town for one of the least alignment indicative things I said makes me feel like I'm being pocketed.

I'd rather the neighborhood go to a townread player or at least someone who I think would use it. There's scenarios where you want to communicate night action results only in the neighborhood so an all town neighborhood can be good and NC is pretty null to me so far.

I'm actually not a hard read it's just that most players lack familiarity with me or are just downright horrible.

Yeah it's quite obvious you're scum here mate.

Why? This is not obvious at all.

Do you feel like asking me things when I'm not around is good fake/scumhunting? b/c it seems a bit manipulative to me.

Better but I'm still not sold. Scumbutt.

Cheeky has specifically used the word scumbutt as both town and scum but I think she uses it more as scum then town. Would need to search her posts to confirm though.

y?

Strong town reads should receive negative utility roles or useless roles to discourage scum from killing them.

Gross. How the eff is Nero strong town?

Why wouldn't he be. He is scumhunting, challenging people that are being generally townread, bring new aspects to the conversation.

Ok I'm going to stop posting before I take up pages on my own.

A50 why aren't you commenting on something more useful?

Town.

yeah, id like some explenation here

Sorry you don't get one. Besides, once titus stops being a drunky I'd like to see some content from her.

Seriously. It feels like ur trying to keep a scumbuddy alive.

Titus/Hidden Happiness/CheekyTeeky scum team?

I think I just solved this game D1. GG guys. If any of you are feeling particularly generous, you know where to find the scummy nomination thread

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You can get away with being town read for catching-up in that matter but she didn’t do it right.

[Vecna]

not like its a new thought momo, but yeah it does look like 3/4 in RC/Hh/CT/GE

[momo]

not like its a new thought momo, but yeah it does look like 3/4 in RC/Hh/CT/GE

That's why I added at the end of my post.

[momo]

not like its a new thought momo, but yeah it does look like 3/4 in RC/Hh/CT/GE

Knowing that Vecna, if we reject the current proposal, would you consider proposing this one:
Gladiator - Gamma Emerald
Inactive - Saudude
D5 IC - Almost50
Inventor - Iconeum
D3 King - popsofctown
Macho - CheekyTeeky
Miller - Vecna
Odd Night Motion Detector - apthet
Neighbor - Lil Uzi Vert
Neighbor- momo
Timid - Hidden Happiness
N1 Universal Backup - Nero Cain
Vanilla - Oversoul
Compulsive Quitter - Titus

Weaker roles go to the suspected scum. Greater chance of passing cause more ppl are likely to be happy with it.

[Oversoul]

I feel like Day5 IC is almost wasted on... almost.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What if we lynched HH and had someone sort Titus in the hood?

[popsofctown]

I feel like Day5 IC is almost wasted on... almost.

Yeah. Swap GE and Almost and I'd vote to pass that

[momo]

I feel like Day5 IC is almost wasted on... almost.

Yeah. Swap GE and Almost and I'd vote to pass that

Sure....
However, that would mean that if we lynch Titus/HH/CT and the game isn't over yet, our next lynch is likely A50 instead of Gamma.

Making likely lynch order Titus/HH/CT/a50/GE

By making a50 IC likely lynch order is
Titus/HH/CT/a50/GE

Obviously this is subject to change and heavily dependent to Titus flipping scum.

Is that the path we want to take.

Because rn, reading the game, I'm pretty sure of those five people, 3 are scum.

If only 2 out of those 5 are scum, D6 becomes MyLo.

Thoughts?

[Vecna]

not like its a new thought momo, but yeah it does look like 3/4 in RC/Hh/CT/GE

That's why I added at the end of my post.

Thats ok, im actually totally fine with you carrying us. Were probably being way overconfident and totally wrong but ill worry about that if RC flips town

[Vecna]

I feel like Day5 IC is almost wasted on... almost.

I actually like it on him

[popsofctown]

My thoughts is that planning out the whole game on day 1 and trying to win a 6 day mafia game with 1 game of dayplay instead of 6 days of dayplay is absurdly bad play

[Hidden Happiness]

Wait how did we suddenly get put into a 'scumread' spot? Not that I'm surprised but what did I do this time B)
~Orihime

[Hidden Happiness]

My thoughts is that planning out the whole game on day 1 and trying to win a 6 day mafia game with 1 game of dayplay instead of 6 days of dayplay is absurdly bad play

This isn't happening. Bottom line it's a game of mafia and we're just scumhunting with a new way of play. It's like an open set up each day. I do feel like we're playing this whole phase wrong, but the game isn't gonna be simply solved in 1 day.

[Hidden Happiness]

What did my hydra partner even do that was so scummy? :thonk:
At the moment I think the inventor should go to ice
Sau gets the Glad
Almost gets the king or IC

Momo gets miller
Gamma gets inactive
Cheeky gets timid

[Hidden Happiness]

Okay so I just went back and read since none of you fkers will interact with me and I think it's because of the joke post or whatever? That's a first. I can give an essay on why that's wrong, but we're not getting lynched so I can't really complain. My main question still is:
Why. Is. Titus. A. Scumread. I know this is such a hard answer clearly but dear god pls

[CheekyTeeky]

momo you better take a step back bruv.
Scum will hide behind you if you spam the thread with your silly scumreads.

[CheekyTeeky]

Why wouldn't he be. He is scumhunting, challenging people that are being generally townread, bring new aspects to the conversation.

Momo please show me where Nero is doing this?
It better be good otherwise I'll tunnel you like RC.

[CheekyTeeky]

As has been explained multiple times already. No. As long as the backup is a TR, this is irrelevant.

You're irrelevant.

If people keep the roles the whole game and the backup is just one night...what do you think happens after that?
ALSO giving top town reads top roles and not caring if those top town reads are killed is beyond foolish.

[Oversoul]

I feel like Day5 IC is almost wasted on... almost.

Yeah. Swap GE and Almost and I'd vote to pass that

Sure....
However, that would mean that if we lynch Titus/HH/CT and the game isn't over yet, our next lynch is likely A50 instead of Gamma.

Making likely lynch order Titus/HH/CT/a50/GE

By making a50 IC likely lynch order is
Titus/HH/CT/a50/GE

Obviously this is subject to change and heavily dependent to Titus flipping scum.

Is that the path we want to take.

Because rn, reading the game, I'm pretty sure of those five people, 3 are scum.

If only 2 out of those 5 are scum, D6 becomes MyLo.

Thoughts?

I feel like Day5 IC is almost wasted on... almost.

Yeah. Swap GE and Almost and I'd vote to pass that

Sure....
However, that would mean that if we lynch Titus/HH/CT and the game isn't over yet, our next lynch is likely A50 instead of Gamma.

Making likely lynch order Titus/HH/CT/a50/GE

By making a50 IC likely lynch order is
Titus/HH/CT/a50/GE

Obviously this is subject to change and heavily dependent to Titus flipping scum.

Is that the path we want to take.

Because rn, reading the game, I'm pretty sure of those five people, 3 are scum.

If only 2 out of those 5 are scum, D6 becomes MyLo.

Thoughts?

That’s fair, i just think you’re wrong about Almost50. I think he’s town because I see a lot of my play in his play (part of the reason I town read Vecna too) I also think if the game doesn’t end with those people gone, we might be in MyLo earlier because of possible roles. I can guarantee you there will be a vig at some point in the game.

Cheeky has specifically used the word scumbutt as both town and scum but I think she uses it more as scum then town. Would need to search her posts to confirm though.

That would be one of best scumtells ever.

It almost feels Shakespearean levels of tragedy to give Iconeum the inventor, but I like your most recent proposal

[Saudade]

Moi je m'appelle Lolita
Collégienne aux bas
Bleus de méthylène
Moi je m'appelle Lolita
Coléreuse et pas
Mi-coton, mi-laine
Motus et bouche qui n'dis pas
À maman que je suis un phénomène

[popsofctown]

As has been explained multiple times already. No. As long as the backup is a TR, this is irrelevant.

You're irrelevant.

If people keep the roles the whole game and the backup is just one night...what do you think happens after that?
ALSO giving top town reads top roles and not caring if those top town reads are killed is beyond foolish.

By the time the scum can shoot the PRs, our townreads and scimreads are likely to have changed anyway

[Vecna]

Oversoul van be my ride or die homey

The frustration from the HH slot also feels somewhat genuine

[Saudade]

I think all the hyper wall of texts posters are scum