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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:30 am
by Uncrowned
VOTE: GBJ

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:30 am
by Map Wolf
^Wrote my last post before .

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:31 am
by Map Wolf
That's L-1

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:33 am
by Map Wolf
In post 594, Billy Pilgrim wrote:
In post 587, Map Wolf wrote:I will vote Non Imh if I need to, but I really don't think he is town, and so will stay on someone else for as long as possible. I feel that at least some people voting him are looking for a mislynch. I think it is
highly
likely that one of GayBabyJailor & Billy Pilgrim are scum. (Unless Non Imh is scum)
One or both? Because most of the conversation has been about us as a team? Also, can you explain why I'm scum?
At least one of.

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:38 am
by Uncrowned
GBJ is on 3 votes, not 4.

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:43 am
by Non lmh
there's enough to go on for y'all to have fun when going head to head in the days to come
by my count, everyone has more or less taken a stance so,,
VOTE: Non

if you're town, vote for me
but only if you're really town

thanks to the mod and all, esp.Lion, for playing along with the style I chose for this game
while brief, I truly had fun^^,,

p-edit
still think I'm right about everything

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:46 am
by the worst
vote count 1.16

Map Wolf (1) : Kanna
Kanna (0) :
GayBabyJailor (3) : GuiltyLion, Map Wolf, Uncrowned
Uncrowned (0) :
Non lmh (4) : GayBabyJailor, Billy Pilgrim, Menalque, Non lmh
Billy Pilgrim (0) :
GuiltyLion (0) :
Menalque (0) :
skitter30 (0) :

not voting: skitter30

with 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

day one will end automatically in (expired on 2019-12-14 11:30:00) or sooner if a lynch is achieved by majority.


mod notes:
- skitter30 v/la weekends
- quack

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:47 am
by skitter30
I didnt realize it was only 12 hours to deadline, and i'm very vla today.

I'm going to give
intent
to non

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:12 am
by Billy Pilgrim
@Non - skitter gave intent. So you should claim before she hammers in case your claim affects anyone's decision.

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:35 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 608, Billy Pilgrim wrote:@Non - skitter gave intent. So you should claim before she hammers in case your claim affects anyone's decision.
This kinda strikes me as "scum going through the motions" rather than real thought. He's literally voting himself, what could he possibly claim other than BY?

Which is another good reason for town!Non. He's not voting his counterwagon and he's not trying to claim or draw out a PR. If hes scum he's playing extremely sub-optimally.

I realllyyyyy prefer the GbJ lynch.

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:36 am
by GuiltyLion
BY =VT . Damn autocorrect.

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:06 am
by Billy Pilgrim
Yes Lion, if he claims anything but VT it's a power lynch, because why the hell would a town PR do that. But similarly why the hell would a townie self-vote ever? I'm done with having people explain why a self-vote is actually town. It's certainly not helping town's win con to vote against yourself when you're town. If you're a mislynch, you're making it so less people have to misread you, so it's a shit play. Also, I cant make anything from how that spot's playing so I'm certainly not opposed to this lynch. If it flips green we'll figure it out tomorrow.

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:46 am
by GuiltyLion
If your argument is that you want to lynch him for self-voting and making "shit play"s, be my guest, I just don't think that's a good way to lynch scum.

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:28 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 611, Billy Pilgrim wrote:I'm done with having people explain why a self-vote is actually town.
actually

has this happened before in other games for you? what was the alignment of those people who self-voted?

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:39 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 613, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 611, Billy Pilgrim wrote:I'm done with having people explain why a self-vote is actually town.
actually

has this happened before in other games for you? what was the alignment of those people who self-voted?
Eh let me just be transparent and lay my cards down on this one since not much time to deadline and I might get NKd and people may not think to push this

Unless Billy has meta/examples of players self-voting and flipping scum, I find this to be a notably scummy thought process. Presumably this argument has come up in other games Billy has played, but he makes no mention of whether those self-voters were
actually
scum.

If Billy played other games where townies self-voted, then he should be more aware not to push this as scum indicative. The fact that he mentioned he's had this argument before tells me he should have learned from their actual flips in those games, yet here he wants to go ahead and lynch non imh on the basis of self-voting regardless. That only makes sense as a genuine town push if he's seen scum self-vote and get away with it. (If he has though, then scrap this point)

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:39 am
by Billy Pilgrim
In post 613, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 611, Billy Pilgrim wrote:I'm done with having people explain why a self-vote is actually town.
actually

has this happened before in other games for you? what was the alignment of those people who self-voted?
I've seen both alignments do it, but I think more than 22% of the time its scum.

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:41 am
by GuiltyLion
That's a very safe answer

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:06 am
by GuiltyLion
skitter I know you're super V/LA but if you do hammer Non Imh can you give us like at least a very brief summary of your thoughts on his latest posts, and whether you think town or not?

if skitter totally disappears I'll be around to hammer to make sure we get a flip, but I wanna delay as long as possible because I think GBJ is a better lynch and I'm hoping Menalque comes back here and sees that

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:23 am
by Kanna
I'm here and I don't like either of these lynches. I feel like scum are parking their votes to lock us into this selection.

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:23 am
by GayBabyJailor
kinda regret voting non imh now
what happens when the day ends without a majority, does the person with the most die or is it an auto no-lynch?

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:25 am
by Kanna
Can we pile on Map please?

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:28 am
by GayBabyJailor
actually yeah map wolf is weird
VOTE: Map wolf

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:29 am
by GuiltyLion
I don't want to flashwagon Map Wolf

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:29 am
by GuiltyLion
like I think that's absolutely anti-town at this point

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:30 am
by GayBabyJailor
well i dont think non imh is scum anymore