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In post 594, ObviousScum wrote:Can you expand on where you see town in george, ico, and GL?

george is likely to be town via POE. I don't see scum Ico lying about not following the plan. GL is a gut read which I'd rather not get into atm.

In post 599, ObviousScum wrote:

In post 597, Karnage wrote:what does this even mean?

do you usually have good reads?

some games are better than others

I'm not a fan of George's absence but I kinda liked his last post. Coming into today he kinda skips karnage who was being pushed and goes for ico instead who he'd positioned before as a mid-tier read. Now it's possible he'd go for ico for not 'following the plan' as scum but I feel like it makes sense to push players who are playing kinda overtly anti-town?

In post 596, Karnage wrote:

What's your full reads list?

@obvscum

@obvscum

os
emps/gl
all else

Can you expand on where you see scum in george, ico, and karnage?

@obvscum

or your town reads even

In post 598, GuiltyLion wrote: 1) I still generally think George is scum and I'm not sure why we're looking at Obv/Icon first over George

Why are you so sure george is scum?

I don't really see scum anywhere, I just see more townie and less townie

That's why I've been trying to find town

Icon's response to me felt ok although risk of defensive pocket
your wim seems ok but your reads look gross
george has a few posts I like, one post I don't like, and an absence I dislike

emps has seemed to have good presence throughout the game and a good tone
GL looks like the best read for vig and a pretty clear read of the game but I guess I'd feel better about him if I saw one or two things I wan't go into

there's not really anyone I'd say "oh no, never ever flips scum here" but no one I'm like "oh yeah 1000% scum" either, just a messy murk of a game frankly

In post 608, ObviousScum wrote:your wim seems ok but your reads look gross

also feel like you really haven't done much solving up until now tbh, more one push on me and then called it a day until I directly asked you for reads

feel like on replacing in maybe you'd find town first? idk

okay so actually as I'm sitting down and thinking about this more my reads are kinda all in flux

questions I'm thinking about - if George isn't scum, then scum might be just waiting for me to force the issue and then they can tag along later when it's deadline and they won't fall under scrutiny. I've tossed out George's name as a suspect several times now and nobody is biting at that, which makes me think George might be town and designated lynchbait

I'm also not sure I buy that emps townreads me to this degree? like I don't think I've been super especially over the top townie so far this game

I definitely don't think Obv/Karnage are a team. and I don't really think Ico is scum.

so that leaves me with:
emps/Obv could be a team
George/Obv or George/Karnage could be teams I guess

In post 607, Karnage wrote:

In post 598, GuiltyLion wrote: 1) I still generally think George is scum and I'm not sure why we're looking at Obv/Icon first over George

Why are you so sure george is scum?

what makes you say I'm "sure"? I said "generally" in that post you quoted

wim?

p-edit:
I guess it depends on how you define "solving"

pedit 2:
ok. why do you generally think george is scum?

the thing is George hasn't town told at all and I've seen him towntell in the last game we played together. I also really disliked the way he justified his vote onto Jake. however more and more he's kinda feeling like lynchbait in terms of how this game state is behaving, it's weird to me that nobody else is really vibing with my scumread there

what about a Karnage/emps team, could that fit

In post 614, GuiltyLion wrote:what about a Karnage/emps team, could that fit

Whats the scum case against me?

I'm not making a case yet chill

I'm trying to figure out who's working together and what scum agenda every player's votes and pushes could be serving right now

you're kinda my guess at Nurse so I didn't think you were scum but associatives between Obv don't really make him scum with a lot of people I think. I'm starting to think emps is a decent bet for a deep wolf

just a scum getting mostly townread by most players, someone not really in the thread consensus lynchpool

that's how I use it at least

Did you eliminate George/Emps?

In post 560, ObviousScum wrote:

@mod

if Amrun or Hectic were nurse would they have flipped as nurse or doctor?

In post 613, GuiltyLion wrote:it's weird to me that nobody else is really vibing with my scumread there

I mean a lot of your scumread is off meta

In post 610, GuiltyLion wrote:I've tossed out George's name as a suspect several times now and nobody is biting at that, which makes me think George might be town and designated lynchbait

like you've said it but I don't really feel like you've sold it that hard? idk

In post 598, GuiltyLion wrote:2) I messaged Datisi a few days ago asking whether the Nurse would flip as Doc if they died N1 and their answer was Nurse always flips as Nurse. so somebody is 100% lying about being a doctor and I'd really like them to claim explicitly in case that gives us useful night action info or in case we're barking up the wrong tree

j/w but why did you think to ask this?

In post 612, Karnage wrote:wim?

'wanting it more'

also just refers generally to presence and activity which is statistically very slightly town indicative