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In post 596, 72offsuit wrote:JV is ignoring my question

In post 581, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 572, 72offsuit wrote:

In post 569, JacksonVirgo wrote:72 had clidd as confirmed scum in his mind and GW as a side and when I called that out, he pushed me and clidd to the side and full scum-read GW.

Because they think that if GW gets lynched they'd be town-read for 'being right' where if they're lynched they think GW will be cleared because 'scum was scum-reading me I am clean'

This game is essentially solved once 72 gets lynched regardless of their flip, even though they're going to flip scum.

Ok. So when i flip green, who is scum. From your POV JV?

You won't, and you seem to miss that two SE's seem to have come to the same logic meaning if one is scum, both is. And since I am not scum, then the result would be GW/Ceejay which won't even be a thing because you're scum.

No you're just not reading the fucking thread

Okay so, I feel stupid but that's aight.

Town shouldn't vote because if that vote is on town mafia will quick hammer it

Scum is General and Ceejay as I said in my previous post from EoD.
I doubt it's Mad like I'm completely against their lynch

So, you guys lynched 72 while I was asleep and I'm sad, but I guess this is what everyone felt when I closed the thread last time, alright. I am confused as to why did they kill clidd, they're leaving us OMN alive whom we can trust since there was no counter claim.

In post 580, OldMapleNostalgia wrote:Can you guys explain why 72 is a better lynch than Madu, why doesn't anyone else think Madu is scum-lock? Sorry I wasn't fully following the thread.

I want ceejay to answer this question.

In post 525, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 523, clidd wrote:

72offsuit

hammer yourself then, if you flip

green

im the first to being lynched tomorrow.

I will be the one to push it

In post 528, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 526, GeneralWu wrote:i'm gonna do an ISO on 72offsuit later cuz he needs to be looked at

No need, just vote them

In post 529, JacksonVirgo wrote:Here I'll unvote so it won't hammer
UNVOTE: 72offsuit

I would like JV to explain the meaning of these messages. OMN hammered them in the end, but... why were you wanting to be the one to push it? Offering to unvote so people that aren't sure about their vote cast it... I'm not sure what does that mean.

As for my intent now, it's to vote GW. The reason is that I thought before that if 72 flipped green, GW is probably red, since the main reason people voted him (I think?) is that his behavior looked like he was tunneling on his partner, but that turned out not to be the case, so I want to believe 72's hunch held some water, since he was adamant about it for two days. But I would like to get replies about these things first.

In post 608, Maduisha wrote:So, you guys lynched 72 while I was asleep and I'm sad, but I guess this is what everyone felt when I closed the thread last time, alright. I am confused as to why did they kill clidd, they're leaving us OMN alive whom we can trust since there was no counter claim.

I assume because the actual confirmed Town is less of a big brainer than clidd is, and probably has the wrong reads or WIFOM happened.

In post 609, Maduisha wrote:

In post 580, OldMapleNostalgia wrote:Can you guys explain why 72 is a better lynch than Madu, why doesn't anyone else think Madu is scum-lock? Sorry I wasn't fully following the thread.

I want ceejay to answer this question.

In post 525, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 523, clidd wrote:

72offsuit

hammer yourself then, if you flip

green

im the first to being lynched tomorrow.

I will be the one to push it

In post 528, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 526, GeneralWu wrote:i'm gonna do an ISO on 72offsuit later cuz he needs to be looked at

No need, just vote them

In post 529, JacksonVirgo wrote:Here I'll unvote so it won't hammer
UNVOTE: 72offsuit

I would like JV to explain the meaning of these messages. OMN hammered them in the end, but... why were you wanting to be the one to push it? Offering to unvote so people that aren't sure about their vote cast it... I'm not sure what does that mean.

As for my intent now, it's to vote GW. The reason is that I thought before that if 72 flipped green, GW is probably red, since the main reason people voted him (I think?) is that his behavior looked like he was tunneling on his partner, but that turned out not to be the case, so I want to believe 72's hunch held some water, since he was adamant about it for two days. But I would like to get replies about these things first.

I was actually going to hard push clidd today because seriously did not see any way of 72 flipping town but they did after clidd pushed them, I know it contradicted one of my last posts but during the night I thought it, but turns out Mafia helped town out with that NK.

The last one was me being a lul because I wanted to hammer them, I lied uwu

Well fuck. Okay. It's probably genwu and I don't know who the other guy is

In post 609, Maduisha wrote:

In post 580, OldMapleNostalgia wrote:Can you guys explain why 72 is a better lynch than Madu, why doesn't anyone else think Madu is scum-lock? Sorry I wasn't fully following the thread.

I want ceejay to answer this question.

Is this a trick question

72 was behaving in such a way that is not helpful at all.

That and both clidd and JV say you're town for some reason.

The only one who would be up for lynching you at the time would be maple and genwu

In post 613, ceejayvinoya wrote:

In post 609, Maduisha wrote:

In post 580, OldMapleNostalgia wrote:Can you guys explain why 72 is a better lynch than Madu, why doesn't anyone else think Madu is scum-lock? Sorry I wasn't fully following the thread.

I want ceejay to answer this question.

Is this a trick question

72 was behaving in such a way that is not helpful at all.

That and both clidd and JV say you're town for some reason.

The only one who would be up for lynching you at the time would be maple and genwu

I agree he reacted poorly and that didn't help, but if your resolve would have actually been lynching the scummiest person around, I think you would have voted for me, exactly because of what you said. OMN was up for lynching me, as they stated when he asked for people's reasons not to vote for me (which only JV and clidd answered, interestingly enough), GW already had his vote on me, and with you, that's 3. Only one vote away from lynch. And if you ask me, one vote was easy to get, especially considering I had 3 people vote me before, which means there's suspicion and predisposition to vote for me. If what you just said are all your reasons to go for 72 instead of me, I'd argue you just didn't care who got lynched out of the two, and went with the one that was more accessible at the moment, who turns out it's the more experienced, less shady of the two. And if you're mafia and GW is your partner, it would make sense for you to want to get rid of the person who saw through him during the early game.

Tl;dr, I think getting that last vote on me was easy and your claim here is false. Simply, getting rid of 72 was more convenient than lynching a townie that acted scummy.

So, yeah... my scumreads are GW and ceejay. I won't cast a vote right away, because I want people to speak their minds too, but that's how I see it.

I only trust JV out of a hunch, which is dangerous, but I'm more eager to trust someone that answered Mapple's question prior to the lynching of 72.

wtmoo

JV tunneled 72 really hard yesterday and now he turns onto me

It seems to me like he's been using clidd to first push that hang on 72, then turn onto me.

The only thing JV has against me is his "own post from eod" which seemed to me like it was prepared ahead of time.

In post 581, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 572, 72offsuit wrote:

In post 569, JacksonVirgo wrote:72 had clidd as confirmed scum in his mind and GW as a side and when I called that out, he pushed me and clidd to the side and full scum-read GW.

Because they think that if GW gets lynched they'd be town-read for 'being right' where if they're lynched they think GW will be cleared because 'scum was scum-reading me I am clean'

This game is essentially solved once 72 gets lynched regardless of their flip, even though they're going to flip scum.

Ok. So when i flip green, who is scum. From your POV JV?

You won't, and you seem to miss that two SE's seem to have come to the same logic meaning if one is scum, both is. And since I am not scum, then the result would be GW/Ceejay which won't even be a thing because you're scum.

This is the post that I think is prepared ahead of time.

It feels like it was made so that JV would have someone to push today.

If you picture it, clidd is like a wave, and JV is riding that wave. JV kind of used clidd to push that hang on 72.

Also I took a look at JV's ISO from the previous day and I couldn't find stuff that actually explained why I was mafia.
JV just sheeped clidd yesterday.
Now he wants me hanged simply because he "said something about me at eod". And I didn't find an explanation as to why I'm mafia, aside from the fact that "if 72 isn't mafia then the mafia is GW and ceejay", which doesn't explain why either.
this is scummy.

As for my intent now, it's to vote GW. The reason is that I thought before that if 72 flipped green, GW is probably red, since the main reason people voted him (I think?) is that his behavior looked like he was tunneling on his partner, but that turned out not to be the case, so I want to believe 72's hunch held some water, since he was adamant about it for two days.

That's not how it works. A confirmed town could tunnel someone for no reason for the entire game and still be wrong about it. While we do know confirmed towns aren't trying to benefit the mafia with the things they say, they could still be wrong.
In other words, you can't believe every word a confirmed town says simply because he's a confirmed town. A confirmed town could also be wrong.

And plus, your reasoning here is that if 72 flips red, I'm mafia, and if he flips green, I'm still mafia. You should probably stop tunneling.

In post 615, Maduisha wrote:So, yeah... my scumreads are GW and ceejay. I won't cast a vote right away, because I want people to speak their minds too, but that's how I see it.

I only trust JV out of a hunch, which is dangerous, but I'm more eager to trust someone that answered Mapple's question prior to the lynching of 72.

In post 607, JacksonVirgo wrote:Scum is General and Ceejay as I said in my previous post from EoD.
I doubt it's Mad like I'm completely against their lynch

I feel like JV and maduisha could be w/w. If not, at least one of the two is a wolf.
Since maduisha just follows what JV says
And JV vehemently opposes the hanging of maduisha despite her being quite scummy with that quick hammer on phi.

In post 612, ceejayvinoya wrote:Well fuck. Okay. It's probably genwu and I don't know who the other guy is

why do you think it's me
why don't you give some reasons
i feel like all you've been doing this entire game is just showing up at random times to make a couple short posts and you haven't really done much to help out

I think you have a point about the fact that blindly following 72's hunch is maybe not too smart, even if I think his opinion is valuable, as he can be wrong just like anyone else. As for me working with JV, that's certainly a possibility I can't deny with anything other than my word, so I won't bother. I think I want to place my vote on ceejay. I'll wait until Mapple shows up too, but I'll say now that after he does, I am using my vote with no hesitation.