mini 2126: the game is OVRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PenguinPower]

[Auro]

@Auro,

since you left the wagon are you going to say why you were scumreading Dann in the first place?

No, because I haven't really -stopped- scumreading him and I'd like to affirm over a longer term

[Auro]

Ohhh lol I had the completely wrong guess for Comical.
Comical we BETTER be TvT this game

[Eddie Cane]

I honestly have 0 real reads.

[PenguinPower]

Eddie is most likely town.

[PenguinPower]

Comical has been relegated to a later read pool.

[PenguinPower]

Pine is breaking my heart.

[Comical]

Let’s just kill Clidd and move on. I need to know if they’re town or scum in my bones, y’all

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: clidd

[Dannflor]

Hi, sorry, I've been disassociated from this game pretty heavily. Not from lack of time, just from general inability to focus because of RL which... yeah.

So, I've only really been paying half my attention to this game and as a result I think a lot of my thoughts have been half-baked. For instance, reading back through I don't really think Eddie Cane is scum anymore. I'll still explain why I thought so because otherwise Okapoka is going to be disappointed in me, but really all my previously mentioned reads are like... amorphous piles of goo.

Basically, I thought EC was scum because he wasn't really trying. There are a number of reasons for this beyond alignment, but I thought alignment was the most likely answer. In Team Mafia, even when EC was mostly V/LA for the first few days, he still popped into the Open with game relevant takes. Now, Team Mafia is a different beast of course, but I've also read a few of EC's town games and he's usually still *a presence* in the early game, even during early games where he's complaining about boredom or nothing happening or bad players. He'll be like "I have one read," or "I have three reads and you're all trash," and try to spark discussion through enigmatic content like that.

Here, I felt like he was just floating around but without the extra little oomph that makes his town game. Then he voted me and I thought "hm wanting to kill me D1 because it would be funny 'regardless of my flip' when I'm a pretty polarized player is a suspicious thing to say," and then I moved my vote to see if EC would get into the game and eventually move his vote or choose who he really wanted to kill. He hasn't done that, but like:

I honestly have 0 real reads.

This is pretty earnest, a pretty stupid thing for scum to say at this stage of the game, and pretty much how I'm feeling now. It also explains half the qualms I had with him, and really, the other half was me latching onto stuff because I was trying to find stuff to latch onto.

I don't think this makes EC hard town or anything, but I would generally expect scum!EC to have a stronger presence by this point. Even though I know he strongly prefers town, he's good at both alignments and I *think* he'd be slightly more likely to do-nothing as town until he finds something to get him into the game, thus relying on his ability to townspew when he needs it. As scum I think it'd be more advantageous for him to get a foothold early.

That said, I've literally never seen EC's scum game so my analysis is based in very little.

So really what this entire post is trying to say is that I've moved EC from a wavering scum read to a slight town lean

[Eddie Cane]

That's a lot of words to say "Eddie is a PR nightkill him".

[Dannflor]

I know who Comical is and I think I always scum read them, so I'm trying to be self-critical here

but #525 still looks like it TMIs Clidd town. It's not damning, yes, Auro, people tend to assume people are town --- something about the wording of this post in particular, and the lengths to which Comical goes to represent a clidd!town scenario just seems... There's something very LAMIST about it I think.

His push on Eddie Cane in #536 and #538 is bad in retrospect. EC has done nothing this game and somehow Comical pulls "setting themselves up positioning wise" out of that.

My reaction test was actually just to see if EC would unvote me or not, I had an actual scum ping from Comical

I want more from #556, what exactly changed your read on EC, Comical? What is your perception of the game state now? This feels like a very slimy way to slink out of a push that they felt was going bad. The worst part is they have the confidence to know they can get away with something as brazen as that and then talk their way out of it. but I think it's slightly more scum agenda than cocky town

[Dannflor]

Eddie is a PR nightkill him

[Dannflor]

Penguin Power is town still

[Dannflor]

I also think RCE and Okapoka are more likely to be town

Mixed on Auro and Alchemist

everyone else is in the grey goop

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE: Auro

[Dannflor]

VOTE: Auro

[Auro]

[Auro]

Dann's recent posting makes me slightly more confident in him being scum.

[Auro]

Comical, you're not comfortable being outed, yes? If you are, I'd like Dann to tell us who he thinks you are.

[Dannflor]

Dann's recent posting makes me slightly more confident in him being scum.

incorrect!

[Auro]

What do you think were my reasons for scumreading you?
Apart from opaqueness, which wasn't really a reason.

[Firebringer]

Firebringer, my mind says townread you, but my gut finds that a red flag.

both are good choices.

[Auro]

How come you're not participating in the Auro wagon, Fire?

[Firebringer]

don't we have an alliance?