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Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:44 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 597, DkKoba wrote:with 3 mafia its going to be hard to hide within one category after n1 shots with the vig list + a massclaim tomorrow with SS/Bombs claiming as " non vig PR". that way we are pretty guaranteed to get either clear vigs(hopefully if they arent in the graveyard from bomb) or ccs.
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Wait...3 mafia?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:44 pm
by PenguinPower
Solid page top pp
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:49 pm
by DkKoba
Removed ongoing game reference
-GB
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:52 pm
by PenguinPower
Hmm...
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:52 pm
by PenguinPower
Talking about ongoing games is no good btw.
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:17 pm
by DkKoba
oh I reread the rules on ongoing games rules and see that even if I'm in charge of the rules of that game off site its not ok here....
(sorry george)
anyways moving on..
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:26 pm
by Hoctac
Do you buy it, Penpow?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 7:42 pm
by Iconeum
hiiii
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 7:43 pm
by Night 3 Roses
yada yada ok i put on my correct sleeve :p
-Ico
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 12:35 am
by PenguinPower
I need to catch up this morning, but I am initially skeptical of someone trying to mechanically solve here.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:17 am
by DkKoba
In post 609, PenguinPower wrote:
I need to catch up this morning, but I am initially skeptical of someone trying to mechanically solve here.
Optimal strategies are guaranteed to increase town winrate. I am suspicious of those trying to go inoptimal. I.e. in secret hitler, people who try to go against optimal play are typically fasicst read. If yoh think im scum, fine, but im still offering logical setup analysis to help town win the game at the end of the day. Theres a small chance that we could lose on n1 from vigs suiciding onto bomb/s. I'd rather avoid that.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:19 am
by DkKoba
Games with lots of guns in play in my experience on epicmafia tend to require less scumhunting and more mechical play than a typcial setup(not to say that scumhunting is abandoned entirely.)
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:20 am
by PenguinPower
In post 596, PenguinPower wrote:Bingle is a really strong mechanical player who helped me win this setup as scum last time I played.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:21 am
by PenguinPower
I guess I should be more clear. He was town, and his "optimal strategy" "cleared" me, securing me the win in Lylo.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:22 am
by PenguinPower
Like I said, I'll read through and see what's up with yours this morning.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:24 am
by DkKoba
I wont be allowing anyone to be "cleared" who isnt actually mechanically clear. Only way for there to be a clear is if mafia doesnt claim a kill or if we have dead scum in the gy
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:24 am
by DkKoba
question: can bombs be roleblocked?
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:52 am
by PenguinPower
For those that unvoted Dk...why?
Least favorite player so far. Definitely don't want them leading.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:54 am
by PenguinPower
Yes, I trust your setup spec implicitly...
Bomb will kill any player who successfully shoots it at night (unless protected by a Doctor action). A Bomb cannot be roleblocked.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:32 am
by enomis
Heya I am here.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:34 am
by enomis
In post 617, PenguinPower wrote:For those that unvoted Dk...why?
Least favorite player so far. Definitely don't want them leading.
I am ok with lynching them. They are my second most wanted lynch today. But it doesn't seem possible to get a wagon on him.
Let's lynch ceejay. I have a gut feeling that he's scum.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:37 am
by enomis
In post 553, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
CJ & Enomis: I think there is a good chance of scum here,
it would explain the weird purgatory game state.
With scum being very passive and under the radar. However, having just completed Newbie 2001 I'm willing to wait on Enomis here. Cj on the other hand has been much active, but not saying anything.
??? So you are saying this stale game state is due to scum being very passive and under the radar? How do you see that?
Why is it not the whole town being not motivated except for a certain one or 2 person. Finding this reason suspect.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:41 am
by enomis
In post 577, Kilgamayan wrote:
enomis hopping onto the ceejay wagon whilst ignoring Holden's stated desire that enomis be a possible hammer vote is rather sus, particularly since ceejay was Holden's other stated hammerer preference and ceejay is presumably not going to hammer himself. Trying to dodge #SUPERSAINTRISK, enomis?
Did you even read the game? I was literally voting ceejay, switched to Dkkoba because I was the only one voting ceejay and switched back now that there is a wagon.
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I didn't read the game yet at that point which is pretty explicit by my post. So I didn't see Holden's post.
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i am not going to be the one to hammer just because Holden states it. I would rather a not confirm townie hammer then me a 100% confirmed townie hammer.
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Finding this statement here super sus.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:41 am
by PenguinPower
I mean - I think it's interesting that Dk was the leading wagon and now we're sitting between Hoctac and ceejay as counterwagons with no Dk wagon existing.
That's why I'm looking for reasons as to why people unvoted. Saying that it isn't possible to get a wagon on Dk is not accurate.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:43 am
by enomis
When is the extension until? Let's make sure we get a lynch at least.