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A turkey trap.

Pedit: only as in I've only rolled up against scum!hem. I've read town games by him, but i recall and am more knowledgeable about his scum game. Likewise, he has only ever gone up against town!hg.

Disregarding the content issues I have with HEM posts, I find the interaction aligning with what I've seen in his scum game. The interaction feels reminiscent of his approach to Hiraki from blitz II, where they got into a long circular arguement where they kept scum reading each other. There HEM would agree, then turn around and keep pushing despite what was going on. That is also what I'm using as a reference here. It's not perfect by any means contextually, but blah

One point of interest is at the very beginning of the spoiler where HEM agrees that Intuiles logic makes sense in 228, but come 235 repressures Intuile for not committing. This sticks out as it hints that HEM motivation for the questioning is more to point out the scumminess in intuile rather then his expressed reasoning in 228. I could buy the possibility that this is genuine as the follow up where he divert focus back to my wagon. The town games of his I have read matches this behavior of poking into someone while attempting to push whatever agenda town!HEM believes in.

What I dont like, and the reason why i think the interaction points to scum!hem, is post quasi-L1 plan. I feel HEM'a return to shading/investigating into inutile the way he did post the agreement weakens the notion of the agenda he pushed in 227. Its using HEM own supposed agenda to fuel the suspension rather than a natural progression after achieving at least part of his plan. I feel town!hem would of not made 246 which serves more to crunch up his new pressure on intuile while throwing shade at the slot. This was what he did during the Hiraki interaction in my eyes.

Tldr: I think there are moments where you can see town!hem, but his supposed agenda doesnt seem to match up to what he actually pushed or did which I find more indicative of how scum!hem operates.

In post 599, Ame wrote:What sort of trap?

there was all of this talk of does/doesn't it work which eventually resulted in gobbledygook saying to target him. now it feels like you're backing out because you're worried something could go wrong. like there's possibly a way in which it could disprove your claim.

In post 601, gobbledygook wrote:A turkey trap.

gravy babe-e

I can I just say how hard it is to type on mobile, boil tea, finalize plans, and look devilishly sexy all at the same time?

I'm lying about one of those

In post 603, inutile wrote:

In post 599, Ame wrote:What sort of trap?

there was all of this talk of does/doesn't it work which eventually resulted in gobbledygook saying to target him. now it feels like you're backing out because you're worried something could go wrong. like there's possibly a way in which it could disprove your claim.

I don't understand. What scenario would it disprove my claim?

In post 606, Ame wrote:I don't understand. What scenario would it disprove my claim?

if you don't know what to report based on what the mod told gobbledygook, for instance.

In post 605, HoldenGolden wrote:I can I just say how hard it is to type on mobile, boil tea, finalize plans, and look devilishly sexy all at the same time?

I'm lying about one of those

it can't be the last one it's impossible, and you're a coffee drinker so the tea is a lie

In post 596, Ame wrote:After thinking it over, I actually doubt Gobbles is town here. His play is too scummy. Gobbles, you should 100% target Pork tonight. I'll track elsewhere.

Hmm. Wheels are turning.

(Also I'll read those bugs games tomorrow)

Pedit: I see it as your tracking check vaildies that Gobber is actually a hider and didnt fake claim as scum. So if you think he is scum, do you also think he is legit 1 shot weak hider?

In post 608, Ame wrote:

In post 605, HoldenGolden wrote:I can I just say how hard it is to type on mobile, boil tea, finalize plans, and look devilishly sexy all at the same time?

I'm lying about one of those

it can't be the last one it's impossible, and

you're a coffee drinker

so the tea is a lie

I vomited a bit

In post 607, inutile wrote:

In post 606, Ame wrote:I don't understand. What scenario would it disprove my claim?

if you don't know what to report based on what the mod told gobbledygook, for instance.

Ohh, that would be interesting. Wouldn't he be dead in that scenario, though? So it wouldn't matter.

Legit acum 1 shot hider*

I guess he could be a role that visits too

In post 609, HoldenGolden wrote:

In post 596, Ame wrote:After thinking it over, I actually doubt Gobbles is town here. His play is too scummy. Gobbles, you should 100% target Pork tonight. I'll track elsewhere.

Hmm. Wheels are turning.

(Also I'll read those bugs games tomorrow)

Pedit: I see it as your tracking check vaildies that Gobber is actually a hider and didnt fake claim as scum. So if you think he is scum, do you also think he is legit 1 shot weak hider?

I think him not deviating from targeting Pork will confirm it one way or the other. If he targets Pork and they both live, he is probably scum. The scenario that Pork and Gobbles are the scum team doesn't exist. So the only other scenario where we get the wrong idea is if they are both town and scum decided not to kill Pork, in which case it doesn't matter because they trade an extra mislynch.

In post 610, HoldenGolden wrote:

In post 608, Ame wrote:

In post 605, HoldenGolden wrote:I can I just say how hard it is to type on mobile, boil tea, finalize plans, and look devilishly sexy all at the same time?

I'm lying about one of those

it can't be the last one it's impossible, and

you're a coffee drinker

so the tea is a lie

I vomited a bit

HoldenGolden wrote: I praise thy to remember the holy testament of at least its not insta-made microwave coffee *shudders from childhood trauma*

Oops

I had such a cool crumb that I wanted to use, bu I’ll save it for next time I guess.

I am totally sheeping other people on HEM. After reading his iso I’m more null than anything but I am townreading Ame and HG to an extent.

I have [HoldenGolden, farside22, inutile, GG, Ame] on my tail. If I have to guess who's scum, it's going to be HoldenGolden and inutile. Ame, depending on how day 2 pans out. I might be wrong on that. good thing this is farside's job.

I think Porkens if scum would have found a way to divert attention to me instead of focusing his posts on GG's intent to hide behind him.

If Porkens + gobbledygook and Ame can't be both alive tomorrow. So we either have a a.) dead tracker and confirmed TvT or SvS or b.) tracker with a real or fake guilty and confirmed scum. or c.) dead tracker and confirmed scum.

In post 571, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I can't read this slot because I'm too biased that it's scum. I defer to farside for this one.

Do you have more behind my scum read now, or is it still just instinct?

In post 575, inutile wrote:you said something similar to me earlier. why is it scummy for us to not be 100% sure whether or not something is scummy? by extension, is popopopopopopo towny for the confidence with which he declared exemplar scum?

on farside — it either pings you or it doesn't. implying something is scummy is something i use as scum because i make people go to the conclusion themselves instead of feeding it. town doesn't have the motivation to do this.

po x7 is towny for the confidence, yes.

In post 618, HoldenGolden wrote:Do you have more behind my scum read now, or is it still just instinct?

mostly instinct.

i also think that you've been using my meta maliciously against me

In post 621, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i also think that you've been using my meta maliciously against me

How so? Be specific.

Mostly because you're saying how you paint a picture of scum-HEM based on past behavior whereas I'm town, and I've done some of the things you've said as town.

I told you to read Nightless and Winter Wonderland. Did you read them?

In post 623, humaneatingmonkey wrote:

Mostly because you're saying how you paint a picture of scum-HEM based on past behavior whereas I'm town,

and I've done some of the things you've said as town.

I told you to read Nightless and Winter Wonderland. Did you read them?

So my read on you should depend on me knowing you are town, and thus I am scummy because of using meta? What? Your logic makes no sense. I asked how is malicious, not how is it supposedly wrong.

Like "painting a picture of scum!me based on past games" is literally the point of meta.

What do you hope to achieve when you say stuff like that to people? You did it to ame where you say they are wrong and that you are town, without really trying to disprove them.
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I did. It's why I'm not pushing the death tunnel point anymore