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A definite Scum&TownIn post 554, Noraa wrote:
Huh not sure who's scum here. I have a slight tr on shelly rn and a very shaky read on plus. So I'm thinking this short convo means that it's not TvT but I can't tell who's scumIn post 551, PlusJOYED wrote:
Oh nice, a scum admitted themselvesIn post 547, shellyc wrote:Guys plusjoy outed scum here
I’m the doctor and doctor is impossible to be paired with a TFN
Hammer this right now余命数か月ばかりの恋に点滴で扶養する患者達
被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
発熱が死因 然れば早期に躊躇すべきだったと知る放火犯- Noraa
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PlusJOYED is one person. This doesn't make sense to meIn post 599, Mundivore wrote: I'm quite Sus of Sirius just because of behavior, running around like VI and then lurking about and changing vote to whoever seems like the next active lynch target just feels super scummy to me. The fact that Plus is scum and JOYED scumread them doesn't even make me think that they're less scummy. If I were scum and I saw my partner acting like that, I'd scumread them to hell and back. The way Sirius is acting is going to get them lynched eventually, and if I knew they were scum I'd want to get ahead of that. Then again, if Sirius were town then I'd also want to try to get the free lynch in. If shelly is doctor, that means we have either cop or tracker. I'd say Sirius is an excellent target for them tonight.
I'd be down to kill JOYED. I've seen enough that I'm confident he's scum. However, I'm not going to vote yet, I'm waiting until everyone's satisfied with the body of analysis and willing to kill.- Mundivore
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Feel like JOYED/Sirius is a bit more likely than JOYED/Noraa. It'd be pretty audacious to honestly claim it was TvT as a calculated scum play, because TvT with these claims is clearly impossible. It's a lot more likely that Noraa is just actually and legitimately confused.
JOYED feeling even more obviously scum than before, fishing for town PRs. I'm tempted to throw my vote on now so there isn't any weird chicanery where the deadline passes and we don't get our scum kill. JOYED self-hammering is a real concern though. I'm just going to wait around because (a) we haven't heard from everyone yet after the counterclaim went down, and I think that still has value and (b) extending the day a bit gives our GM more time to work out that replacement. Think of it as my vote is on Plus, but with a delay.- Mundivore
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Ok I must say that I hard TR shelly after reading this. There's only 2 mafia and 7 town so if she was mafia, she wouldn't out herself by cc'ing a pr that literally told everyone his role. She would've just nk'ed plus. Not to mention this pr(fn) doesn't really even seem to do anything imo. I feel like Shellys def town but as for whether or not she's really the town doctor ... idk cuz she's been really sus of plus for a very long time now.In post 599, Mundivore wrote:
The case against PlusJOYED in the last few pages is really strong—mafia lying as doctor in order to get a lynch is about the dumbest thing you can do as scum. One free kill on a townie is usually not worth one free kill on scum in return. So either shelly is town and JOYED is scum, or it's just a bad play where shelly is scum and JOYED is town, and we take those.- Noraa
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mundivore, I'll admit I played pretty badly day 1 as town and focused too hard on obvtowning over solving. I ask that you consider town!joyed perspective here for a second.
A scum CC's your pr claim, and the town sides against you. This is all well and good, since you know when you flip friendly neighbor green shelly will be doomed. What would you do?
We have a scum right in front of us. Shellyc. Miseliming a townie is a worse outcome than the town jailkeeper or tracker revealing so that they can prove my innocence, condemning red shelly and save town and put town at a very good state.
If I was scum asking for this, I could see it for fishing prs, but at this point, the best scum play would be to either self hammer or just condemn shelly since without daychat PT my newbie scum buddy could lose us the game by fakeclaiming a pr and having shelly flip doc.- Noraa
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If she is fake claiming as you say she is, that is very very strange. I cannot see why scum would do that in any case.In post 614, PlusJOYED wrote:I agree that shellys choice of fakeclaiming a pr here is strange though. So even if I'm miselimed here it's still decent.- Noraa
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Hold up then who did mundivore replace?
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Let's say you are town. You're trying to do what, get the Town Jailkeeper to claim? Sure, that stops us from eliminating town, but now the town have no real power roles. Scum kill the Jailkeeper and your power role does nothing since you confirm yourself town. I'd rather sacrifice the TFN to prove that shelly is scum than sacrifice the Jailkeeper to prove it.In post 607, PlusJOYED wrote:A town pr verifying me and damning shelly, will save us from eliming a townie here, which is the current trajectory. And if a pr counterclaims me and sides with shelly, when I flip green the game will be solved. Or vice versa.
Or maybe you're trying to get the Town Tracker to claim? That's the only other option, but it's a stupid option because Tracker/TFN and Tracker/Doctor areboth valid.And even then, a tracker isstill betterthan a TFN who has already confirmed themselves town.
Besides, it's such incredibly cocky scumplay to sacrifice a scum in order to kill a TFN in a game with a tracker or a jailkeeper lurking about. They'd be exposing themselves toonebad night being enough to end the game for them. No way shelly is fake-claiming here. And if sheisthen it's a misplay and we take those.- JacksonVirgo
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I kinda agree here that fn seems to be the most useless role so the sacrifice would suck yes but is a smaller sacrifice then say trackerIn post 619, Mundivore wrote:
Let's say you are town. You're trying to do what, get the Town Jailkeeper to claim? Sure, that stops us from eliminating town, but now the town have no real power roles. Scum kill the Jailkeeper and your power role does nothing since you confirm yourself town. I'd rather sacrifice the TFN to prove that shelly is scum than sacrifice the Jailkeeper to prove it.In post 607, PlusJOYED wrote:A town pr verifying me and damning shelly, will save us from eliming a townie here, which is the current trajectory. And if a pr counterclaims me and sides with shelly, when I flip green the game will be solved. Or vice versa.
Or maybe you're trying to get the Town Tracker to claim? That's the only other option, but it's a stupid option because Tracker/TFN and Tracker/Doctor areboth valid.And even then, a tracker isstill betterthan a TFN who has already confirmed themselves town.
Besides, it's such incredibly cocky scumplay to sacrifice a scum in order to kill a TFN in a game with a tracker or a jailkeeper lurking about. They'd be exposing themselves toonebad night being enough to end the game for them. No way shelly is fake-claiming here. And if sheisthen it's a misplay and we take those.Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.
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