mystery box of silver 10: neighborhood (this is done)

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Norwee: My bad then. Sorry to have assumed you had more brains than you do. I didn't intend to offend you in any way by making such a wild assumption.

Yeah, don't make silly presumptions you monkey brain.

[Almost50]

The one that’s being anti-town here is you. You’re a part of the PoE and instead of helping us clear it you’re pointing to a nonexistent scum-siding 3P boogeyman.

I refer you to my argument against hooding Taylor last night. One of my questions was "what if they are

stubborn

TOWN

?", Please don't disregard that possibility until we have a reason to.

[Tayl0r Swift]

norwee why do you want to help a 3p at the expense of town?

No one is helpong anyone at the expense of their own wincon. It just so happens that we can all win together if we work together. They scratch out backs and we scratch theirs.

P.S. Btw, I don't want you to self-sacrifice just yet. What I want is to make sure you see it as a good option IF it comes down to it, and understand why.

Of course, if you are Scum (which I am still undecided about at this point) you can go the long route and still get eliminated by the end of the day, and then we go another route.

yeah i see that there are scenarios where its good. i just dont think this is one. when we get to endgame and town is about to win, sure. but i dont think town should let the 3p win until town is about to win too.

[Tayl0r Swift]

@Tay Tay: WHo would you rather eliminate today? Why?

im pretty convinced shelly is scum here. she was pretty opportunistic in hopping on me when nero and norwee did. she did not have the same fire in pushing me on prior days.

[Tayl0r Swift]

The one that’s being anti-town here is you. You’re a part of the PoE and instead of helping us clear it you’re pointing to a nonexistent scum-siding 3P boogeyman.

I refer you to my argument against hooding Taylor last night. One of my questions was "what if they are

stubborn

TOWN

?", Please don't disregard that possibility until we have a reason to.

and you know im stubborn.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you suicide and flip town i promise i will do all i can to eliminate Shelly.
@Taylor

[Almost50]

Ok, done here for the time being. Heading back to main thread to try and see what the hell is going on.

Also, gonna say this in here: Yeaterday I said in the main thread that chemist was left out to oritect her, and she gets added today. That's a pointer that chemist is Town IMHO. I want to eliminate between TGP/shelly, but right now I am leaning TGP.

Also, Taylor is not clear in my book, but is not the top choice for elimination. If she decides to self-sacrifice at any given time that would be a plus though.

[Almost50]

im pretty convinced shelly is scum here. she was pretty opportunistic in hopping on me when nero and norwee did. she did not have the same fire in pushing me on prior days.

Why is that scum indicative rather than survivalistic Town indicative? What would you have done if you were in her shoes with a wagon on you and only one alternative available?

[Tayl0r Swift]

im pretty convinced shelly is scum here. she was pretty opportunistic in hopping on me when nero and norwee did. she did not have the same fire in pushing me on prior days.

Why is that scum indicative rather than survivalistic Town indicative? What would you have done if you were in her shoes with a wagon on you and only one alternative available?

maybe youre right. what i did is say that the wagon is baseless, so i imagine thats what i would do.

[Almost50]

I am at the bottom of page 276, and my solve right now would be TGP/Math/S_S )which is a very serious combination if you ask me)

More later

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[NorwegianboyEE]

High five.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is Math scum. They feel like scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Math spent this entire day hard defending Tayl0r before suddenly claiming neutral for no fucking reason. Kinda like they knew Tayl0r flip would make them look bad and they were preparing for it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Their claim is so unbelievably bad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Bell also was defending Tayl0r.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So know it's currently looking like this:

Spoiler:

A:

Tayl0r Swift

shellyc
TheGoldenParadox

B:
Chemist1422
shellyc
TheGoldenParadox

My current paranoia now is that it's actually like this:

Spoiler:

A:

Tayl0r Swift

shellyc

TheGoldenParadox

B:

Chemist1422

shellyc

TheGoldenParadox

[NorwegianboyEE]

And i'm wondering if Shelly is spewed town from that early push on them this day.

[Almost50]

There is STILL at least one scum in the shelly/TGP/chemist pool though

eliminating all possibilities where Taylor wasn't included as scum we have:

3- shelly/Taylor are Scum, TGP/chemist are Town
5- shelly/TGP/Taylor are Scum, Chemist is Town
7- shelly/Taylor/Chemist are Scum, TGP is Town
9- TGP/Taylor are scum, shelly/chemist are Town
11- TGP/Taylor/chemist are scum, shelly is Town
12- chemist/Taylor are Scum, TGP/shelly are Town

But that's as far as logical analysis goes. That flip -unfortunately- does NOT clear anyone.

[NorwegianboyEE]

A50 what's your take on Math.

[Almost50]

I'm going to let you debate some and see where that leads.

Let's just note that there is AT MAX (that's 0-1) scum in Math/Bell/S_S

Also, scum know Society's win con, so Nero & Titus aren't getting eliminated (if one of them is, then they auto win by the other suiciding instantly, thus earning 2 points for being on all scum wagons and another 2 for having 2 NK'd and presumably 1 point from the suicide on top of the already confirmed point from the D1 guess). THAT would be scary to Scum because that's too close to Society's exclusive win con, so I don't think they shoot in Nero/Titus (unless they are really dumb)

[Almost50]

A50 what's your take on Math.

I did mention sb noticed the Doctor crumb and that they were on YOU in particular on N2, so I guess I buy the claim.

[Nero Cain]

i do buy that Math is NOT TOWN. I don't buy that they are a 3rd 3rd party faction.

[Nero Cain]

i kinda think its just chemist/math

[NorwegianboyEE]

i kinda think its just chemist/math

If we wanna go for the same strategy as today we could recruit Chemist.