Yellowstone

[Noraa]

This is a reach, there are many reasons why they might not be panicking.

no its not. I saw your (dumb) posts about how I could be scum and I started panicking and you hadn't even voted me. That was when I realized that a normal townie reaction IS precisely to panic because if you die, you lose the entire game for town.

[Noraa]

Noraa. Do you think DGB is a scum roleblocker or just scum from your perspective.

if DGB is scum, they're a goon most likely.

[Noraa]

Noraa keeps flexing on how they're TR'd as scum a lot so that read is relatively weak, even to Noraa's standards.

No not really. sometimes I don't even offer reasons why I'm town.

[Noraa]

If DGB is scum here, I'll put the loss completely on my own shoulders. I am that confident that they're Town here, every single thing is pointing towards them being Town.

not everything. only mech.

[Noraa]

I am town and very obviously so. One of DGB and me has to be scum bc DGB hasn't been hammered. The choice is pretty diddly darn simple.

[Noraa]

I am town and very obviously so. One of DGB and me has to be scum bc DGB hasn't been hammered. The choice is pretty diddly darn simple.

I don't appreciate the LAMIST here, and DGB is Town meaning you're scum in this 1v1

If I am wrong, I lose the entire game for town. Wdym with this nonsense?????

[Noraa]

I will take responsibility

I don't care. I don't want you to take responsibility for a loss. I want a win.

[Noraa]

N2 Weak Visitor check on DGB.

hm. so basically either DGB is ascetic scum or town?
UNVOTE:

[Noraa]

Noraa quit misrepping me I swear to god I will start throwing hands. I said if we lose this game because scum!DGB I will take responsibility for it, not if I am wrong I lose the game. And infinity I am a night specific 2-ability JOAT of sorts, Momrangal saw my D1 crumb and asked me about it yestergame. My abilities are all semi-negative utility. N1 Vigilante shot on Toogoloo. N2 Weak Visitor check on DGB. I'm a wildlife hunter as my flavour if that matters at all, I tried making it obvious I was one after Momrangal called me out as to scare scum into thinking I had a Watcher shot on Momrangal or something but it failed. I checked them to stop my paranoia that it was a gambit and if so, check if I fell in their pocket, and that's why I was trying to solve if they were a scum roleblocker with such audacity without claiming, as if I claimed scum may claim protective as to secure an easy elim or two, but if they are Scum roleblocker my result may be wack but for now, they're almost confirmed Town to me as I would be dead otherwise and scum roleblocker doesn't make much sense at all given my setup spec many times. That's why I am so insistent on them being Town + every other mechanical reasonings fits for them being Town over a scum roleblocker. Noraa is literally scum here, they're just constantly making strawman arguments to attack those that disagree with their agenda.

I get that ur frustrated cuz I'm not really trying to work with anyone here. I do think this paragraph is highly town indicative.

Im considering a few possibilities.
1)Mom was wrong. DGB is just town. In that world Jacko is basically conftown
2)Mom was right. Its DGB and Mark
3)Mom was half right. Its DGB and Jacko. They are pulling a dangerous but rewarding gambit rn.

[Noraa]

Yesterday I was trying to get ALL claims so I could then claim but Noraa quick-hammered which fucked that all up. I'll go find my softs now

I didn't mean to.

[Noraa]

With DGB and myself being town-tier. And Noraa forcing a 1v1 with DGB, Noraa is confirmed scum here unless scum just hasn't appeared yet at the same time. And that's why I think they're trying to set up a way to WIFOM save their buddy going into tomrrow.

honestly, no.
this is mean of me to bring up but I'm about to do it anyways.

In So many bats, I was scum. You TRed me hard.
In mini 2177, I was town. You SRed me hard.

My point : please understand that you are bad at reading me. And I'm seriously trying my best to word this nicely but you simply can't read me.

[Noraa]

I want a win too that's why I have been pushing AGAINST a DGB elim. But thanks for snipping my entire soul just to shade me

I mean I understand why you are confident in DGB town and thats fine. I have some things to think about now.

[Noraa]

Originally I thought it was just setup spec/mech stuff which I don't buy at all. But a weak "clear" is slightly different.

[Noraa]

I never even considered Ascetic tbh

they seem like the only possibilities to me. Along with Jacko/DGB scum. That is definitely possible. I do think ur recent posting has been really good tho so thats not seeming that likely.

Therefore, either dgb is ascetic goon(I dont think scum have a RBer) or town RBer.

[Noraa]

I do think that ascetic scum makes a lot of sense with the flavor.

I don't know how to connect stuff with flavor. explain to me.

[Noraa]

mechanically

how so?

From your perspective,
DGB-conftown

Infinity, Noraa, Marky - undetermined

[Noraa]

I'm at a 2/3 scum pile. Infinity/Noraa appeared to be pushing the same agenda where Mark is not. I am not sure if scum!Noraa would playing the seperation game to have their buddy succeed in tomorrows LYLO or directly pushing for DGB alongside their buddy. That's my current read in a nutshell

I mean here's the thing: if I were scum, I'd never push the town RBer. Sure momrangal thought they were scum. But that doesn't matter. Pushing a town pr comes at huge risks. I'd push any vt over DGB. Vt are just easier to push in every single possible way.

I came in today and immediately voted. That is not scum!me. Scum!noraa is going to come in, test the waters a bit, and then choose a soft spot in the town to park my vote.

[Noraa]

If I am wrong about the 1v1 between DGB/Noraa it could be Mark/Infinity doing the same thing although right now using your own logic Noraa you are the likely scum here.

No. My logic is DGB/Noraa must have scum and its DGB.

[Noraa]

I'm pretty sure we've established that one of DGB and noraa is scum.

I hate this coming out of your mouth although I do think like this.

Ok, I've given this a tiny bit more thought and theres no other possibilities. DGB is simply scum. I really don't think there is ever a world where DGB is town. As for the other scum, truth be told, I'm not completely sure I agree with mom that it is marky. I think its possible but I'm not certain. DGB has really just been obvscumming like hell today and yesterday tho and I seriously can't TR this.

What mom said is correct.

If DGB RBed Pig, they would've outed it the moment Jacko claimed the vig shot.
If DGB RBed Guillo, they would've pushed Guillo not Vax.

These actions don't make sense from town and town has no need to suddenly become super friendly and kind to everyone the moment the mason calls them scum.

VOTE: DGB

[Noraa]

Never a big fan of self-meta.

Find a single scum game where I push a pr in limlo. I know the pr claims are real so I don't push them. I've actually never realized this is true of my scum games but I just went over the stats and this is 100% true.

Stats don't lie.

doggos-i was pushing Sirius and 72 on my last day alive(both were vt)
on this day-i was pushing gimli and hectic on my last day alive(both were vt)
mafiasunny-i was pushing gamma on my last day alive(vt)
so many bats-i died early so didn't get to do much
death curse-only vts and goons
kpop music-i was pushing staarling on my last day alive(vt)
xenoblade-i died early so didn't get to do much
pookyvsflavor-i was pushing toog, mastina, and ircher(all vt)
never trust trees-i was pushing momrangal(this is a special case tho bc it was either our shady dies or the town flag bearer dies. I had no choice but to push mom)

[Noraa]

Noraa continues to contradict themselves. And I've already said why Guillo was likely Town regardless of the roleblock.

it makes more sense to assume you blocked a kill than assuming that a goon claimed pgo and then killed flea.

[Noraa]

Noraa if it's Infinity/Mark I will hate you forever.

thats fine bc I'm 100% certain its not infinity/mark.

[Noraa]

ALso @Noraa. Which of Infinity/Mark do you think is scummier

Probably mark atm.

[Noraa]

It's Noraa. But for some reason everyone has been excusing her scum play since day 1.

Notice how fast DGB's tone shifted from yesterday to today.

[Noraa]

I am a regular roleblocker.

Does anyone disagree that we win if we lim me, noraa, me, and vax?

I want to start with Vax.

Mom and Math probably got some sort of incriminating night action on DGB.

It's impossible, I am town and a roleblocker.

Ok I see what ur saying. DGB would probably doubt Guillo before thinking vax's claim is fake.

I was very disconnected yestergameday, I had a lot going on personally and I do have a soft spot for both Guillo and MB.

I can't rationally explain my thinking because it was not rational.

Mom and Math probably got some sort of incriminating night action on DGB.

It's impossible, I am town and a roleblocker.

Why was Vax's claim being fake more possible than guillo being blocked scum?

Both were equally possible.

Mathblade,

ranger,

has died night 3.

(could choose between tracking and rolecopping each night)

WHY does the role say nothing about masons????

was

O_O

In another game! (^_-)-☆

VOTE: DGB

Mom said it's right. It is right. She knew vax was town. She knows DGB is scum.

I am not scum, I told the truth about my role and actions, and neither mason actually said otherwise.

If anything, they know I'm telling the truth but they got caught up with feverish gambit speculation.

Everyone knows I fakeclaim, but I never gambit.

We are going to have to actually work to solve this game.

VOTE: DGB

Mom said it's right. It is right. She knew vax was town. She knows DGB is scum.

I find it hard to believe that a townie would cast a vote here before anyone shows up, but this is Noraa and apparently no scumtell applies.

[Noraa]

I am a regular roleblocker.

Ok I didn't remember seeing this but apparently they lied about their claim earlier.

Does anyone disagree that we win if we lim me, noraa, me, and vax?

I want to start with Vax.

Had to point this out. If vax flipped town that day, we would've speed yeeted guillo the next day so this actually looks really bad. + town RBer would want guillo dead over vax

Mom and Math probably got some sort of incriminating night action on DGB.

It's impossible, I am town and a roleblocker.

Is this how you talk to ur scumread?

Ok I see what ur saying. DGB would probably doubt Guillo before thinking vax's claim is fake.

I was very disconnected yestergameday, I had a lot going on personally and I do have a soft spot for both Guillo and MB.

I can't rationally explain my thinking because it was not rational.

Is this how you talk to ur scumread?

Mom and Math probably got some sort of incriminating night action on DGB.

It's impossible, I am town and a roleblocker.

Why was Vax's claim being fake more possible than guillo being blocked scum?

Both were equally possible.

Is this how you talk to ur scumread?

Mathblade,

ranger,

has died night 3.

(could choose between tracking and rolecopping each night)

WHY does the role say nothing about masons????

WTF

was

O_O

In another game! (^_-)-☆

Is this how you talk to ur scumread?

VOTE: DGB

Mom said it's right. It is right. She knew vax was town. She knows DGB is scum.

I am not scum, I told the truth about my role and actions, and neither mason actually said otherwise.

If anything, they know I'm telling the truth but they got caught up with feverish gambit speculation.

Everyone knows I fakeclaim, but I never gambit.

We are going to have to actually work to solve this game.

Is this how you fucking talk to ur scumread?

VOTE: DGB

Mom said it's right. It is right. She knew vax was town. She knows DGB is scum.

I find it hard to believe that a townie would cast a vote here before anyone shows up, but this is Noraa and apparently no scumtell applies.

WTFFF??!???!?!?!

[Noraa]

This is the crux of why Noraa is scum here.

Noraa LAMIST's and says that DGB is confirmed scum as they were not hammered in a 1v1. They said specifically that them and DGB were in a 1v1.
I clear DGB, and say mechanical reasonings as to why they're not a scum roleblocker. Noraa unvotes here
I call them out via their own logic saying that Noraa is the scum within the 1v1, Noraa retracts saying that it doesn't apply both ways when it does.
Infinity pushes that Ascetic makes sense.
Noraa begins to push the 1v1 again, even though if it doesn't apply to Noraa it doesn't apply to DGB.

They're acting opportunistic as all fuck and their read is no deeper than the kiddie pool.

Ur bad and thats really all I have to say here :/

[Noraa]

This is another example of scumNoraa exploiting a townie's naturally shifting reads and doubts and painting them as scummy, while in fact consistent, linear reads are a scumtell.

No. Jacko is town. He's just being dense. I don't mean this offensively but I am kinda annoyed. Like bruh why do u suck so much at reading me

[Noraa]

JV listen to me. Say you're me and you're scum with noraa. You're going into n2. DGB is a town RB and it SRs noraa. In what universe do you no kill or kill flea? If there's a missing kill and noraa is blocked then she gets guiltied AND we lose our NK. It makes zero fucking sense.

Fair point about the mark thing I guess, but it seems like I could've just waited another 20 minutes for mark to arrive but /shrug

@DGB Why did you block guillo n2 instead of noraa?

INFINITY LOCKTOWN.
Ok I've solved the game

Town: Jacko, Noraa, Infinity
Scum: DGB, Marky

dang that was fast.

[Noraa]

Ok now the job is easy. Convince Jacko and this game is 100% a town win.

Alright. UNVOTE:

now that I'm certain and wholeheartedly believe in mom's solve, life is easy. I didn't believe it fully at first but I'm seeing things very clearly rn.


Infinity, ty for being here, I really appreciate it. Legitimately I could not have the motivation to sit down and reason with jacko if not for your support.

[Noraa]

No one is allowed to vote. Im about to tell everyone exactly why the scum team is DGB/Marky.

Jacko, do not vote me out of spite. Wait approximately 1-2 hours. Assume I'm scum. Thats fine. But don't vote me.
Infinity, you know the right solve but just don't vote anyways.
Marky, DGB, don't vote.

[Noraa]

I'm not voting until we make a decision I don't want lolhammers in LYLO

You are the deciding vote in this game. Infinity and I have come to terms with each other and know the other is town. We both also are sure that you are town and the scum team really is just DGB/Marky. As long as you don't vote me, there is possibility we can get a town win here.

[Noraa]

@Noraa can you be quick with the Mark read. I don't want to waste time

No I need to read a lot of stuff. also I'm bad at casing so its gonna take me a while.

[Noraa]

I wrote this with bias and pretty snarkily. I know my role pm is green and am being sassy as fuck about it and I realize it might come off as super shady. Jacko, try to read this with an open mind and with a null not scum read on me. Don't confbias yourself into a town loss bc trust me, you will make us lose by confbiasing.

Spoiler:

Nora is a cutesy overly excited kind of player... Like a puppy but in this game it doesn't seem over the top, and it feels like there's a level of focus and seriousness there. It's almost like she needs to actually some thinking in the game, and not make plays to redirect town votes, and plays, and cause havic.

I see the exact opposite. Complete lack of focus, seriousness, or thinking, wrecking havoc.

When I was scum with her I was glad to let her roll the town with that BS. Here, not so much.

starts out with STRONG SR on me

TOWN

DrippingGoofball
JacksonVirgo
Guillotina
Marky Mark
Horsewoman
Flea the Magician

NULL

AGamblingPig
Nono
Momrangal

SCUM

Toogeloo
Noraa
LlamaMama
no elim

Note that Pig is a null and Horse and Flea are TRs

@Guillotina
I am on board with 3 out of 5 of your scum reads.

DGB disagrees with the Horsewoman and Pig SRs

VOTE: Momrangal

why not

Wow ok so Noraa is confscum but nah momrangal wagon is gaining heat

Noraa is caught scum lashing out, calling it now.

Where'd this come from? From the butthole of a momrangal SR?

Noraa is caught scum lashing out, calling it now.

you've thought I was scum every game now.
maybe reassess ur reads.
u thought I was scum in trials and Cakes large normal.

You were my scum buddy in Death Curse. Tell me. what did my play look like there. and don't be snarky with ur answer. Fairies and bubbles and toadstools don't cut it.

How about the soul read?

99%

suddenly the strong strong SR of "Complete lack of focus, seriousness, or thinking, wrecking havoc." has turned into a simple and small soul read. Convenient.

I will point out that some of my scumreads have flaked and been replaced, so I will definitely re-evaluate.

Oh oh?(Pig except DGB forgot that they hadn't even SRed pig prior to this :O pure tmi straight out of that scummy brain)

Vax explain why you townread Horse and why scum don’t take her free miselim (if she is town doubtful) when they could have easily done so under the guise of “end the day quick to hide the likely other mason”.

*shrug* Maybe scum is already on it. Maybe scum is scared to take a hard position (like nora on DGB).

My position on Noraa is a lot harder than hers is on me, but for some reason everyone shrugs off all the scummy things she posts... I was cheering it when I was scum with her, but she's pulling the same trick in this game, but I'm town thus time and I'm not having it.

It's frustrating.

So frustrating and scummy that DGB isn't even voting me (because consensus is elsewhere)

I missed the Mason claim. UNVOTE:

You'd think here they'd go thru with that SR on me but NAHHHH

@Mathblade Yeah no one got scum vibes from her in Death Scroll either.

Say what? I was nearly flashwagoned day 1.

@Mathblade Yeah no one got scum vibes from her in Death Scroll either.

Link me for later?

And if no one got scum vibes from that game wouldn’t take make her more than likely town since people are getting scum vibes?

I'm pretty much the only player who wants to yeet her, with occasional assists from others.

Uh huh. You haven't even voted me once outside of the rvs one

I am really liking the new replacements in terms of game health and activity. The only sore point continues to be AGamblingPig. His posts aren't shining a bright townie light on the game.

Oh

I'm sorry, I just can't townread fleaaa here. Playstyle is one thing but fae's blatantly anti-town behaviour is another. And furthermore I've read faer case on guillotina - it is

awful

. I liked faer case on me, it seemed genuine. But all of that analysis has gone by the wayside when fae is talking about guillotina. Completely artificial push. Fleaa has got to be scum here.

Bleeergh

I didn't read the case on Guillotina. Why is it awful? Maybe I'm wrong about Flea.

so quick to back outta a TR :O

I am on mobile right now by infinity iso feels more like walking on eggshells around the other players.

I see mollifying other players, weak attacks, tip toeing around. More a supplicant than a scumhunter.

Ah yes now that consensus thinks infinity is scum(mostly my fault; sorry infinity), you run over to join us

Then help us get a flip

Horsewoman, explain why you are picking on me?

Both MathBlade and Monrangal are saying we should have a flip. I just said I'll try.

Are you misunderstanding something?

Low and behold. Consensus is shifting towards ... yup Horsewoman you guessed it. This TR is gonna flip soon too.

Then help us get a flip

Horsewoman, explain why you are picking on me?

Both MathBlade and Monrangal are saying we should have a flip. I just said I'll try.

Are you misunderstanding something?

momrangal is confirmed town due to claim. mathblade is pushing to flip people who he actually scumreads. you aren't. it's still an anti-town behaviour/thing to say for all three of you.

WHO AM I TRYING TO FLIP??????

I AM NOT TRYING TO FLIP ANYONE FOR THE SAKE OF FLIPPING ESPECIALLY NOT MY TOWN READS

What are you not getting?

I need to take a deep breath and walk off, I am becoming a toxic presence.

uh oh it seems its totally flipped.

--pedit @JV yeah, that interaction if anything looks bad on HW's 1167 as it takes what seemed to me to be a light-hearted post from DGB and twists it to imply that DGB is flip-hunting

Her stubborn refusal to walk it back when I pointed it out crashed my town read into a pole.

Oh excuse me. Here was the OFFICIAL flip of that TR to a SR

Mathbkade caught Infinity for the wrong reason.

Oh haha yes this SR has to be kept alive.

VOTE: Horsewoman

Ah the much awaited

Oh fuck that looks bad for me lmfaoo, I'm a N1 vigilante. I am not sure where the hell the mofia kill went. I would have assumed the scum was within Momrangal, Toogeloo, DGB so I shot within the trio. If it helps I also softed vigilante with my vig talks yesterday.

Now that is VERY interesting and I may have some relevant information.

Wtf is this reaction. A normal reaction is "Oh well if this is the case Pig is scum" Lets also note that DGB has never pushed Pig nor vocally SRed him for long periods of time. NEVER.

[Noraa]

Im not done but I was afraid I'd forget the important points if I kept going for longer.

[Noraa]

I'll read that soon Noraa, but don't forget to case mark

I'm not finished with the DGB case but also I just accidentally deleted a huge chunk of part 2 of DGB's case. not feeling like redoing that today. We have plenty of time. I'll have DGB and Mark case hopefully done by the end of tomorrow.

[Noraa]

I'm not going to willingly let 48 hours pass by, condense it at least into a general paragraph or two and make the larger one later.

I mean I have to sleep in like 2 hours. And the deadline is like 7 days. If you really want those hours back, we can ask for a deadline extension later.

[Noraa]

DGB jumps on all wagons with good potential.
Is super super vague when it comes to Pig(null/scumread back and forth)
never really pushes pig
has weird reactions to things(ie when you claimed the shot, dgb should immediately think pig is scum if they are a town RBer)
tries to save pig("is this the only possibility" is asking if there is any other possibility that their scum buddy is town)
pushes me occasionally; basically I'm a park vote(except dgb rarely votes me)
votes me and shades me for a claim
pushes a shit ton of people for a claim(infinity, vax, me)
unvotes me after I claim vt which makes no sense
keeps shading me by saying I need to pull out my fake claim
overall, lots of provoking and overconfidence in town slots being scum, weak pushes on pig, always going with consensus.

[Noraa]

Now that I've brought that back up. Why does the 1v1 only apply to DGB being scum and not that you are if DGB is not? Don't say that you know that you're Town as that doesn't change anything from an outside perspective as anyone can simply say that. This is LYLO, all scum needs is a successful elimination within a 1v1 which you were actively pushing. Because if you continue to say that it's a 1v1 with DGB and that it doesn't work the other way around, it wasn't a 1v1 to begin with.

well from my perspective I can't be scum but if u wanna think about it that way, yeah if DGB is town, I am scum. DGB isn't town.

[Noraa]

all scum needs is a successful elimination within a 1v1 which you were actively pushing.

so instead of pushing who I think is scum, I'm supposed to sit around and twiddle my thumbs?

[Noraa]

Because if you continue to say that it's a 1v1 with DGB and that it doesn't work the other way around, it wasn't a 1v1 to begin with.

It is a 1v1 with DGB and I am certain DGB is scum and will case them.

[Noraa]

See I am torn between who Noraa's partner would be out of Mark/Infinity. The latter seems likely if they were trying to push an agenda hard, the former seems a little less likely if they were pushing an agenda to win today but if Noraa was trying to set up Infinity and play the long game that would make it the perfect case. I don't know what the fuck to think and I hate being in this position and I thought it would be way fucking easier with a clear but I even

just

started to have some doubts about that now to be completely honest when I just thought about me getting pocketed hard, the only one I am currently most confident in is that Noraa is just the most likely scum in the group so I'll probably end up voting there. I am still going to wait for the Mark case as I could be following a blind tunnel, if DGB is scum pulling the wool over my eyes maybe it is better to leave the direct 1v1 and eliminate within the other 1v1 (Infinity/Mark) so that when I die tonight, assuming I do since who else would, you will have the fully confirmed public knowledge of my check instead of some paranoia of a DGB/JV partnership if that still exists. Although since there's almost certainly one scum within Noraa/DGB they could both be and eliminating in Mark/Infinity might be a straight loss. FUCK

Why does it not occur to you that DGB might be ascetic goon?

[Noraa]

Scum Ascetic doesn't seem to fit this role list,

scum ascetic directly cancels out Tracker, watcher, MD, role cop, ur thing(slightly forgot what it was), and fruit basket. wdym????

[Noraa]

all scum needs is a successful elimination within a 1v1 which you were actively pushing.

so instead of pushing who I think is scum, I'm supposed to sit around and twiddle my thumbs?

Where did I say that, I've been pushing you to make the case on Mark.

you say all scum needs is an elim
you make it sound like town wouldn't be pushing anyone here. like bruh wtf.

[Noraa]

Noraa I am actually getting sick of you putting words in my mouth

you are refusing to even consider for a second that I am town. do you know how ridiculously tunneled you are?

[Noraa]

I really need mom here to slap some fucking sense into you.

did you see how convinced u were that vax was scum?
what did mom tell you?
she told you vax is town.
why did she think vax needed to die yesterday?
bc ur tunneled ASF
stop tunneling and think about what mom had said. Nothing she has said has been wrong. She TRed Vax who everyone SRed. She TRed you even tho there was no proof you were vig.

[Noraa]

Where did Watcher come from? did you just slip.

I dont know and no that was not a fucking scumslip.
my point is that ascetic cancels out everything except vig. It makes sense that the ascetic goon claims RBer. It cancels out all investigations and can only be caught be a watcher or killed by vig.

[Noraa]

MAKE YOUR CASE ON MARK. I don't really care about anything else you are constantly posting so much shit when you can stop wasting time and just make the goddamn case.

If you expect me to eliminate the one person that has a clear + mechanical reasons to be Town you're insane.

gah why are you so frustrating?
Im about to go sleep. Don't even know why I bothered reasoning with you. You're just tunneled as hell and I think this is a town loss 100% and solely because of you.

[Noraa]

Where did Watcher come from? did you just slip.

I dont know and no that was not a fucking scumslip.
my point is that ascetic cancels out everything except vig. It makes sense that the ascetic goon claims RBer. It cancels out all investigations and can only be caught be a watcher or killed by vig.

I never said scum-slip. I just said slip. I was lowkey hoping you were gonna claim Watcher here lmfaoo

no I'm not a fucking pr otherwise I would've outed long ago.

[Noraa]

This is public knowledge I am trying to solve and this is actually frustrating the hell out of me

wtf do u mean?
ur trying to tunnel is a much more accurate description.
You literally refute every point I make before I even get to say shit about them.
"DGB is mech clear therefore no argument u make matters"
thats been ur stance all night and its stupid as hell.

[Noraa]

I am so much more frustrated than you and you aren't even listening to me.

[Noraa]

If we lose this game, it is your fault. I'm going to sleep and I'm not casing anyone until I feel like it again. If you decide to stupidly vote me out today, its entirely on you because I've been efforting and providing reasons.

My thought process has been transparent and towny.

I haven't thought twice about survival and this is hands down too far out of my scum range.

You don't see it not are you willing to untunnel. We will talk postgame or when you stop tunneling.

G'night.

[Noraa]

I'm sorry that went too far. I love you Jacko but you are frustrating me way too much rn. I'll case DGB and Mark tomorrow.

[Noraa]

I'm going to say this as blunt as I can, if you take it as an insult then I apologize but I'm not going to beat around the bush as this is my thoughts. If anyone expects me to eliminate my clear simply because you have a conspiracy theory that they're an Ascetic just because an Ascetic would fit thematically you are literally insane. Actually, I just remembered that the Motion Detector got a positive result on them, meaning they simply aren't.

Ok so I see why ur not willing to lim DGB but I'm going to try my best to work around that.

I hope you agree that out of DGB and me there has to be a scum. Don't be quick to assume it is me this time. Listen to me and try to understand where I am coming from.

For the sake of thinking from ur perspective, lets assume the scum team is Noraa/Mark. DGB is a town RBer, Jack is town JOAT, and Infinity is a vt.

Ok so the moment this day started, I charged in with a DGB vote. Isn't this nearly suicide to 1v1 ur top TR? Like no shit I know DGB is your top TR. You made it clear as hell yesterday. Sure I didn't know it was because u investigated them but still, I don't start out attacking a town RBer. Scum 1000000000% attack infinity here. Think about it. How much easier would it be to get 1 singular vote on a vt than on a town RBer that the town JOAT thinks is locktown?

Now lets flip to my perspective for a sec.

I came into this day with zero plan or anything. I was just like "Mom says DGB. DGB it is" Like there was nothing else to it at all.

I started realizing you were town through your frustration. You felt genuinely upset and I believe you think DGB is town and me scum and if you believe that, you are town. I started seeing it pretty fast.
I came into this day not sure if anyone but DGB was scum. Yesterday, I had noticed a tone shift from DGB in that they were a lot more kind and meek which was the main reason I wanted DGB on the chopping block today.

Once I realized you were town, I also realized that the scum team cannot possibly be marky/infinity. I parked my vote on DGB and before I removed it, everyone had checked into the thread. If the team were infinity/marky, game would be over.

From my perspective, you, jacko, are obvtown. I am town. Marky/Infinity cannot logically be the scum team. DGB must be in the scum team even by poe.


Why do you think I'm scum? I thought about this question a bit last night. I may be totally jackshit wrong but I'm going to say why I think you don't believe me. I feel like its out of fear of losing to scum!Noraa as I am known for good scum games and you have modded two of my flawless wins.

But the thing is I want you to think about a few questions. Think about them and answer them yourself and then talk to me about it.
1) Is my every post in this game loaded fully with AtE and with the intent of manipulating every person in the game? (do not look at my posts. think from memory. can you think of a single time where I AtE'd here)
2) Am I efforting in this game? Is any of that effort going towards self preservation?
3) What are the benefits towards me 1v1'ing your top TR? (Trust me I know how tunneled you get. You wouldn't let go of me in 2177.)
4) Seriously, have I even been ATTEMPTING to look townie in general this game? (think about my refusal to read the game. calling masons stupid. calling everyone scummy.)
5) Is my scum game this bad? (take a while for this one. I think you know the answer but refuse to accept it)

[Noraa]

I skimmed marks posts. It really doesn't look good. The only good thing is that he isn't saying infinity could be scum which is +town points cuz I do think scum here push the vt. After I've said this multiple times, its prolly no longer the case but anyways.

Marks post basically says "DGB could be scum. Jacko could be scum. Noraa could be scum"

Its like "ok great well that was very helpful"

[Noraa]

I pulled a few quotes from a scum!Noraa elo. Take a look and tell me if the tone is even remotely similar.

Spoiler:

everyone is starting to lean scum on me and I'm just getting deja vu of day 1. I have really conflicting thoughts and am extremely frustrated that everyone is SRing me rn. Like extremely frustrated.

Scum set me up so hard and Bell insists it was all scum theatre. Passing to LLD was scum theater. Calling me scum in every other post was scum theater. Voting me whenever a different wagon isnt working that well. It's all scum theatre.

Fidget insists I'm scum because I'm good at scum.

Murder is god knows where in this whole mess.

Now I feel like you also think I'm scum.

I just wish gloria was here. I need her polar bear gifs

I feel surging anger at every SR rn. I finally understand how Adorable feels.

*breathing exercises*

Like if I'm worried about a convienent list from bell isn't this way worse? After what happened in 2170 are we really going to accept this?

ur literally comparing this to one of my worst games on site?
smh

Spoiler:

Bell are you town here

i've got my dayvig gun ready

I’m always town you scum claimer

Sure its RVS but still

I’m not sure if I wanna just give the first scroll to lapsa or not.

Bell is the most insistent on Lapsa. I'd always viewed Lapsa as PL material. Scum TMI?

VOTE: Shellyc

HMMMMMMMMMMMM.

Why hasn’t LLD been vigged yet.
I feel like if I were scum I would have sent that message in yesterday.

LAMIST. very berry.

Did I say i’m Glad i’m Not scum buddies with Norra yet.

Not sure why. This post pings weird. It's the attitude thing.

Also, I feel bad if she’s actually not scum.

Though I suppose I should feel bad either way which fits in nicely with how I feel rn.

fence sit? backtrack?

Okay. I don’t care.
Shellyc got under my skin.
And I guess i’m Death tunneling her now.

bad reason but good way to justify voting for shelly forever.

2 hours sleep! Woo.

Lld.
Fidget
murdercat.

Mmm. After that things get fizzier. I feel like this game is a race to find townmore than a race to find scum tbh.

shockingly accurate. I had a huge SR on Fidget back then and so did many other people. I believe this is TMI cuz Fidget looked p scummy back then.

"I should be TRing Bell"
"proceeds to SR Bell"

inconsistency = bad

Are you for real with this and the flailing thing. I feel like you can’t be given the number of games you’ve played just from sheer blocks being knocked over after building them up.

Zdenek: I genuinely don’t know what you want me to say from that post. It just looks like you’re fence sitting.

Zdenek was another scum lurker. I don't think I picked up anything on this slot and its weird that Bell picks up on these.

She could fake it I guess.
But you don't have my support.
I guess I'm scum buddies with her afterall.

low-key shade. I could see this as scum trying to set me up. Cuz Bell red, in this circumstance would have made me look bad considering Bell started defending me sometime in the game.

Pooky doesn't believe me.

[Noraa]

These cases suck ass but I'm really angry because I fucking know jacko is gonna buy it for shit reasons.

[Noraa]

I skimmed marks posts. It really doesn't look good. The only good thing is that he isn't saying infinity could be scum which is +town points cuz I do think scum here push the vt. After I've said this multiple times, its prolly no longer the case but anyways.

Marks post basically says "DGB could be scum. Jacko could be scum. Noraa could be scum"

Its like "ok great well that was very helpful"

You are welcome to actually read my posts fully before drawing your conclusions

You keep shading me without actually making a substantive argument as to why - I'd actually like to know why you seem to be seeing me as scum here (unless you are just sheeping mom) so that I can try and sort you between being a misguided townie or being an openwolfing scum based on your view of the gamestate :S

Your summary of my post is also slightly misleading - I am advocating two possible theories -> One with you as scum + 1 other and one with a DGB/JV scumteam

Yes, I am undecided right now but that's just me being honest with where I'm at. Put yourself in my shoes here -> You have a theoretical solve (DGB/JV) that makes sense and then your top TR (outside of Mom) goes and quickhammers a TPR. Are you seriously teling me that this wouldn't leave you a bit stumped too?

--pedit -> will go over the analysis from DGB in a bit

currently I am not particularly focusing on you. I want the 1v1 DGBvNoraa today and if I've misrepped u, its probably bc I skimmed all ur posts.

[Noraa]

I mean you've made it clear that I am part of your solve so I would like to understand why you SR me here so that I can get my head around how your view of the game. I get that you want to focus on DGB now, but clearly your SR on DGB has to fit into a wider solve, given that there are 2 scum left

Mainly poe tbh. I find Infinity more towny than you. That is really the only reason you are in my SRs.

[Noraa]

Good morning jacko.

[Noraa]

1.) You seem to actively call my posts sus in the top quote (see my underline) but then go on to say in the bottom quote that you just have me in your POE due to not TRing me as much as JV/infin. This seems like a mild contradiction here but I don't want to misrep you. Help me understand - are you actively SRing me or not?

its called confbiasing.

[Noraa]

2.) You came into this day with me in your solve based on what Mom had said and you now have me in your solve due to POE & being a weaker TR than JV/Infin. Have you moved on from basing your solve on Mom's one?

yeah we moved on long ago.

[Noraa]

3.) Given how simple your explanation is for having me in your solve, why have you waited so long to put it out there given how frequently you were asked for it?

Uh because I was planning on casing you but got lazy.

[Noraa]

4.) Ref the explanation itself - if DGB is scum then JV is lying about being a weak visitor (unless there was some funky role modifier on DGB) so how am I more likely than JV to be DGB's scum buddy?

Jacko is much more genuine than you. He radiates towniness much more than anyone here.

[Noraa]

--pedit2 @Noraa I mean JV may subjectively come across as more genuine than me to you, but unless DGB flips some kinda scum PR that would prevent a weak who targets them from dying then can you not see that JV must be lying about weak visiting DGB if DGB!scum??

If DGB flips something funky, I would consider Jacko could be scum.
Currently, I have no reason to and my heart tells me Jacko is town here. If DGB doesn't have some sort of modifier, either scum have a pr or Jacko is scum. That would be a soft guilty and I would reassess.

[Noraa]

I skimmed as I have to work. Mark I held back the claim because I didn’t want scum to make a claim based on my result as obviously if they didn’t the pool is of three instead of four.

I don't quite follow sorry? I'm probably being dense here, but why would you outing an inno on DGB affect what scum were claiming, esp as most slots had claimed by that point anyways?

As in if a protective doesn’t claim they’re clear, otherwise I could have been blocked and it’s less of a clear.

Ah right, so your theory is that if you claimed, then scum could've fake claimed they were some sort of a role that blocks or prevents yours, and that is why you didn't die as they targeted you?

--pedit1 @Noraa, well at least you're being honest

--pedit2 @Noraa I mean JV may subjectively come across as more genuine than me to you, but unless DGB flips some kinda scum PR that would prevent a weak who targets them from dying then can you not see that JV must be lying about weak visiting DGB if DGB!scum??

I'm concerned now that Marky is town. fml. I thought I solved the game but I'm not understanding why mark isn't jumping on me if scum.

[Noraa]

If DGB flips something funky, I would consider Jacko could be scum.

Surely it's the opposite - if DGB is goon or 'standard' scum RB then JV must be lying about visiting them and surviving given his weak modifier?

By funky I meant no ascetic or some weird modifier. Like idk disloyal does the same thing too right?

[Noraa]

Did u read my big wall addressed to you?

[Noraa]

Ur really struggling to case me lol.

[Noraa]

At this point, I'm waiting for Jacko to wake up from his dreams. If he doesn't wake up, even if we hit DGB's partner today, we will still lose tomorrow.

[Noraa]

Who's scum with noraa DGB? And why did you block guillo n2 over noraa?

Why'd she block anyone but me in general? She never really voiced a SR on pig or guillo yet her strong SR on me amounts to nothing. No votes no RBs.

[Noraa]

Who's scum with noraa DGB?

It's between you and Mark.

pfft

[Noraa]

Jacko is way too tunneled. No point in trying anymore. Everyone else is seeing why DGB is scum except Jacko and that's the final vote we need.

I accept this town loss and I think I've done my best.

I have shown genuine emotion that would not exist in my scum game and I haven't been showy about my anger. Jacko isn't listening and there is no way we win this game unless DGB dies today and then we figure out which of mark and infinity is scum.

[Noraa]

If DGB doesn't die today, this is 100% a town loss and Jacko is dead set on making this a town loss and I have no interest in changing their mind anymore.

[Noraa]

Unless infinity wants to come in and somehow save this game, Jacko is very happy with making us lose.

[Noraa]

We will never be able to get whoever is scum to vote DGB because that puts them in a dire position tomorrow. This is why town needs to block up and kill DGB today and 1/3 of town is Jacko.

We need their fucking vote but they are tunneled to hell and back.

Marky are you willing to vote DGB?

[Noraa]

I'll do this again since Jacko is asleep rn.
VOTE: DGB

Jacko, I 100% guarantee that by the time you wake up, this still won't be hammered. Because DGB is FUCKING SCUM.

Holy mother of god Jacko STOP TUNNELING. WAKE TF UP AND LEND ME YOUR VOTE.

I swear to god I accept this town loss but I am so damn mad because I have been trying so damn hard to obvtown for you but you're just like "eh what? No no this big ass scum bucket is townier"

THIS IS WHY MOM WANTED VAX DEAD. BECAUSE YOU ARE TUNNELED AF. Goddamn.

[Noraa]

You said I keep saying ur stupid but then say I love you.

I hope you know I would've done way more than just call you stupid if not for the fact that you are Jacko. You are so tunneled it looks ridiculous to me. I try so hard to be patient with you but you're just being so stupid about all this. Like how in the fuck is DGB townier than me? DGB is obvscum here and everyone including their damn scum buddy is seeing it. Only you are sitting over here twiddling your thumbs like "no this is conftown"

[Noraa]

Yeah ok was hoping we could get 1 scum, 2 town votes on DGB and get that wagon thru but nah, Marky is smart and won't take the bait.

[Noraa]

quick hammering is not exactly scum indicative? Literally no one declared E-2 or E-1. How tf was I supposed to know where the votes were?

[Noraa]

Marky voting me over the quick hammer is hilarious

[Noraa]

Scum team is Marky/DGB.

Its clear as day at this point. Infinity know it. I know it. The only damn townie who doesn't see it is *gestures vaguely in the direction of the one that's sleeping rn*

[Noraa]

Whatever. Jacko when u wake up, vote me. I hope you regret being this tunneled and think twice next time you tunnel me.

This is a town loss because jacko is the unofficial third scum. Unless infinity can convince jacko, this is game over.

[Noraa]

--pedit: you are a good player and I honestly think town!you would have an awareness of the vote #s. I would buy this maaaybe D1 if there was like 7 votes to keep track of, but I'm pretty sure you can count to 4, especially given the proximity of a votecount to your time of voting.

why would I?

[Noraa]

If you're actually town here then work with me. This, however feels like an attempt to swing an elim on me because it's not looking like you're getting one on DGB any time soon. If DGB is scum here then explain a.) why JV is alive and b.) why he is going to such great lengths to defend her

No. If we lim you and not ur scum buddy today, this is a town loss. Jacko is too tunneled to vote DGB and DGB is scum.

[Noraa]

Honestly at this point, no matter what we do, this is a town loss because jacko's vote we need but they're too tunneled to do anything protown.

[Noraa]

pedit another ATE

Mhm definitely.

[Noraa]

Infinity, help me.

[Noraa]

Infinity, help me.

You are town's last hope. Help me.

[Noraa]

Infinity I found an entrance gif for you:

[Noraa]

Scum could have no-killed/cross-killed to set up three Town eliminations at once. Vax followed by the blocked (Gills), followed by DGB themself which is actually playing out right now to be completely honest.

But it's not 3 elims if DGB blocked noraa which it was probably going to do lmao

You're literally not nightkilling in order to guilty your own teammate. It makes zero fucking sense and nothing anyone has said has convinced me otherwise.

Town!DGB Scum!Noraa isn't possible and this^ is the reason.

Jacko you think {DGB, Noraa} has scum. If its not Town!DGB Scum!Noraa, its Scum!DGB Town!Noraa

[Noraa]

Ok so it's mark/DGB.

VOTE: DGB

Thank you lord for making Infinity a not tunneled asf player.

[Noraa]

Infinity-Noraa town block

DGB-Marky scum
Jacko third scum

[Noraa]

Jacko's vote is what we need to win this game. He will be the decider of if town loses or wins.

[Noraa]

All of mark's logic points towards DGB being scum, but he's gonna vote noraa anyway. Make that make sense.

+1

OML INFINITY I FUCKING LOVE YOU.

[Noraa]

Mark's basically like:
scum team is DGB/Jacko
but Noraa hammered, therefore I vote noraa

[Noraa]

JV can you at least look at the d1 interactions to see if they make any sense if me/noraa are the team?

The possible teams from jackos perspective:
Noraa/DGB - anyone that thinks this is possible is batshit stupid and im not taking that back
Noraa/Marky - I could see why some people could see this as possible
Noraa/Infinity - I dont tunnel my partner like that ever unless they are at least UTR
Marky/Infinity - Impossible otherwise DGB would've been lolhammered by the two and we'd be in post game rn
Marky/DGB - everything fucking points to this solve
Infinity/DGB - possible. not likely.

Now lets cross out a few

Noraa/DGB - anyone that thinks this is possible is batshit stupid and im not taking that back

Noraa/Marky - I could see why some people could see this as possible

Noraa/Infinity - I dont tunnel my partner like that ever unless they are at least UTR

Marky/Infinity - Impossible otherwise DGB would've been lolhammered by the two and we'd be in post game rn

Marky/DGB - everything fucking points to this solve
Infinity/DGB - possible. not likely.


Only possible solves are
Noraa/Marky
Marky/DGB
Infinity/DGB

[Noraa]

It is Marky/DGB and Momrangal is a damn genius. I didnt realize it yesterday bc I was blind.

[Noraa]

Its pretty clear as day that Marky and DGB are scum here.
Marky keeps saying scum team is DGB/Jacko just to make it look like he has townie paranoia. But townie paranoia is not what townies have here. Here it is clear as day what the solve is and we are waiting for one person to finally realize it.

[Noraa]

This still feels like scum to me tho. Sending.
VOTE: Horsewoman

This vote was not really backed up by mark's previous reads (he had been going back and forth on horse), and happened right as the DGB wagon was gaining traction.

DGB also never SRed pig fully but blocked him cuz ????????????

[Noraa]

This is what's happened this game:

Night 1:
Jacko killed toog
scum killed toog

Night 2:
Vax "killed" flea
scum no killed

Night 3
scum killed math

Night 4
scum killed mom

[Noraa]

Scum team is just :
Pig(mafia goon)
DGB(Ascetic goon)
Marky(Ascetic goon)

Jacko said something about some action going thru on DGB so DGB isn't ascetic. Ig its possible scum have a 1 shot RBer/Rolestopper or something like that?

Idk about the mech shit but ik DGB/Marky is the solve and there are no damn clears mech wise. It doesnt matter that town is underpowered. Scum might have some negative utility role or some shit.

You can't base everything on mech and there is no confirmed clear.

[Noraa]

*Marky(goon)

[Noraa]

Yeah the mason's instincts were on point, it was kind of a tinfoil but now that we have no other explanation for the missing kill n2 it has to be a gambit. If it's a gambit, scum needed to have control over the guilty for it to make sense.

yeah. it was a gambit and they wanted to guilty a townie. They wanted vax to die first and then the townie to die.

[Noraa]

Yeah the mason's instincts were on point, it was kind of a tinfoil but now that we have no other explanation for the missing kill n2 it has to be a gambit. If it's a gambit, scum needed to have control over the guilty for it to make sense.

yeah. it was a gambit and they wanted to guilty a townie. They wanted vax to die first and then the townie to die.

DGB made it real clear with her Vax push even tho ya know she had a soft guilty on guillo but nah vax's claim is fake. lol wtf.

[Noraa]

Ok well now infinity and I are both voting DGB and if this hammers, great we got scum.

If it doesnt, either the scum team is infinity/noraa(cuz if I was scum or he was scum, our buddy would hammer and it'd be game over if DGB is town yeah?) or its marky/DGB. its really clear which one it is.

[Noraa]

If it doesnt, either the scum team is infinity/noraa(cuz if I was scum or he was scum, our buddy would hammer and it'd be game over if DGB is town yeah?) or its marky/DGB. its really clear which one it is.

I didnt explain this well but the logic does make sense if u think really hard about it lol.

[Noraa]

Ok I'll just explain it to the best of my ability.
If DGB is town, and two scum are on her, it won't hammer.
If DGB is town, and 1 town and 1 scum are on her, it will hammer the moment the scum buddy comes.
If DGB is scum, it won't hammer unless 3 town are on her.

So if DGB doesnt hammer, it either means both infinity an I are town(in which case scum team is DGB/Marky)
OR
both infinity and I are scum

[Noraa]

So lets just wait cuz this aint gonna hammer.

[Noraa]

And also pulling a gambit and specifically telling my partner not to hammer is stupid cuz the win is right here and I and Infinity im sure would take it if we were scum and the other town.

[Noraa]

If this doesnt hammer, the game state is narrowed down to two possibilities
Infinity/Noraa
DGB/Marky

[Noraa]

Infinity let out all your power and lets get a town win together!

[Noraa]

If town doesnt win, I'd like to say that Infinity and I won on our own by mind melding really hard at the very end and this will just be our personal win.
And we'll grab Mom as well.
If we lose this game (officially wise), I declare that Momrangal is town MVP and Infinity and I won together with her.

[Noraa]

Math kept saying I was scum so I dont wanna give him credit :3
Ok fineeeeeeeeee

[Noraa]

Rolestopper

This probably makes the most sense to dodge all the investigative power from town.

I think if they have it, it might be a factional ability or a 1-2 shot type of thing.

[Noraa]

Honestly Rolestopper could fit into the flavor too. It could be like a factional ability called like "can of pepper spray"

idk something like that.

[Noraa]

Ok so it's mark/DGB.

VOTE: DGB

Found Noraa's partner

Go to ur scum pt to find ur partner.

[Noraa]

I see both scum voting me right now.

Getting a little impatient aren't they?

Lol hi scum!

[Noraa]

Well, that escalated quickly! (This is me not hammering btw to rule out some tinfoil me/infin or me/noraa scumteam)

its ok we know you dont want to hammer your scum buddy and that confirms you as the buddy.

[Noraa]

Ok yeah, that kinda makes sense. So, by that logic, DGB and JV both being scum would make town too weak as would be the masons, a negative PR and a semi-useless PR. It seems improbable that DGB just happens to have some funky modifier that would stop JV dying from visiting scum!them so I feel like their alignments are v likely bound up together

No. Scum have a role stopper or something like that and you would know better than me.

[Noraa]

"I'm going to ignore mechanical reasons that very strongly bind DGB/JV's alignments together, because it is inconvenient for my worldview"

aha good your scumminess is finally showing

[Noraa]

Noraa it’s confirmed DGB IS NOT ASCETIC

Stop pushing lies

Ok then role stopper/RBer.

[Noraa]

Because jacko is town and no townie ever thinks they are scum here.

[Noraa]

Noraa it’s confirmed DGB IS NOT ASCETIC

Stop pushing lies

This. Even if scum!DGB was rolestopped/rber how likely do you think it is that they would target a claimed N1 vig over a mason++?

No its either a factional ability or its a one shot/two shot and ur the rolestopper that rolestopped DGB

[Noraa]

I've seen enough VOTE: Noraa

scum showing true colors here.

[Noraa]

I love how blatantly obvious this game state is to me.

[Noraa]

Marky is trying so damn hard to justify a vote on me that its like painful to my eyes.

[Noraa]

This is what's happened this game:

Night 1:
Jacko killed toog
scum killed toog

Night 2:
Vax "killed" flea
scum no killed

Night 3
scum killed math

Night 4
scum killed mom

Why the hell would scum kill Toog

why the hell would RBer not out their result immediately?
There isn't gonna be a doc or a bp or a role stopper if a town RBer exists in the game.

[Noraa]

Well, that escalated quickly! (This is me not hammering btw to rule out some tinfoil me/infin or me/noraa scumteam)

So it’s pretty confirmed who the scum team is now fwiw

Yeah from ur perspective, both scums decided to pile onto your conftown. Thats stupid that you still believe that.

[Noraa]

Well, that escalated quickly! (This is me not hammering btw to rule out some tinfoil me/infin or me/noraa scumteam)

So it’s pretty confirmed who the scum team is now fwiw

Yeah from ur perspective, both scums decided to pile onto your conftown. Thats stupid that you still believe that.

Scum team is Noraa/Infinity or DGB/Marky. If Noraa/Infinity, we pile on Marky rn, get that lim, and win the damn game. Why tf do we both pile onto ur top TR when we need ur vote.

[Noraa]

Yeah Ive got intent to vote Noraa but I’m. Getting ready to work

Wow. After all this you just say this?

[Noraa]

My brain cells are literally falling out of my head and dying rn with how dumb you are behaving.

[Noraa]

VOTE: Noraa

[Noraa]

I will die in glory without two scum on my wagon.

[Noraa]

Jacko this was your fault 100%. Town just lost.

[Noraa]

I have no reason to twilight troll. this is game over.

[Noraa]

You are frustrating as hell.

[Noraa]

Im calling hectic over to lock the thread.

[Noraa]

Obviously not because town wouldn’t hammer themselves here

I would've gotten hammered by DGB otherwise.

[Noraa]

I will not let a scum hammer me. fucking hell no.

[Noraa]

Let's take some of the heat out of this thread

be quiet, scum.

[Noraa]

And at least one of us is mason+

Ok, they did say this but it was unclear which one scum should block. They probably figured JV was underclaiming their power.

N1 scum probably no killed to confirm DGB's claim.

too late.

[Noraa]

I also massively overestimated Noraa's ability to count to 4

I wasn't counting.

[Noraa]

I think Noraa is gonna be mad :c

:3

[Noraa]

I also massively overestimated Noraa's ability to count to 4

I wasn't counting.

Haha, it's all good. It was fun playing with you

I hope you can see from my pov how it looked like openwolfing covered over by cutseyness

I dont see it.

[Noraa]

I was really obvtown.

[Noraa]

So was infinity.

[Noraa]

I would've been more mad had jacko been town.

[Noraa]

But since they were scum, eh, that's fine.

[Noraa]

All my points against you were genuine if that paints a picture

All your points were dumb imo so idc?

[Noraa]

I was really obvtown.

You can’t really claim this for yourself its not really how it works

I definitely was. Infinity saw it.

[Noraa]

Be honest Noraa, if DGB flipped standard scum RB would you have elimed me tomorrow over JV?

yup!

[Noraa]

Lol I was so paranoid of a DGB/you scumteam lol

In the end I didn't think scum!you would play like this.

good choice

[Noraa]

I probably should have realized Jacko's shit read on me came from scum but he has terrible reads on me even as town so it was hard.

[Noraa]

*they

[Noraa]

JV played really well, the gambit was inspired. Scum played really well.

Yeah the gambit was insanely risky but high reward.

[Noraa]

I actually agree the town was way underpowered. We literally just had two masons that once one outed, the other had to out to confirm and then both would die/get blocked.

[Noraa]

The other roles really added nothing.

[Noraa]

Thank you mod for hosting!

[Noraa]

At this point in time, I've learned, never wagon mom, ever.

[Noraa]

She's too good a town player to ever wagon no matter what. Only if there's a cop guilty can we wagon

[Noraa]

This makes my town record 1 win for 3 losses - still infinitely better than my scum record of 0 for 1. Guess I still have a lot to learn

--pedit lol Noraa, good advice

my scum record is like 7 losses 2 wins. something like that lol.

[Noraa]

where are the links :O

[Noraa]

Jacko .... zero remorse :/ You are a cruel scum.

[Noraa]

Nora and guillotina are the two towniest in the thread. I'm expecting some scum shade in either/or/both slots

:OOOOOOOOOOOO
Momrangal is seriously a genius.

[Noraa]

Rolecop/track JV

I can has typing skills lol

YIKES

[Noraa]

^That was the best thing in the whole mason pt probably.

[Noraa]

The mason pt started getting a bit cringey on like page 3.

[Noraa]

Nero said it well.

I.....feel a lil' bad for Math. Like everything he's saying so so so so wrong.

[Noraa]

I am honestly entertaining a DBG/JV scum team. That's the team that makes the most sense play wise

Mom is a genius :O

[Noraa]

Regardless of alignment, nora plays a real good ate game

I wasn't even trying to AtE this game
*flops ears*

[Noraa]

We have nora who is buddying the fuck out of me,

hehe ^^

[Noraa]

THE THREAD IS LOCKED WTF IS GOING OM

O_O me sorry me didnt count

[Noraa]

Noraaa- high emotions. Sheeple. Must stop.

On a more serious note, I've been over and over and over this in my head, and if I'm incorrectly reading her here, I'm never going to hear the end of it but I have a strong feeling that she's town. I said it before, the energy she is putting forth here feels alot differently than the energy she was putting forth in shady game. There, I felt like she was up-playing her meta and not contributing much to that game. I'm not sure how much of it was the game state that contributed to her emotional level in that game but I feel like here there is a more genuine process of emotion and, as I've said it before despite her being the fan girly type, she has toned it down this game and there was a feeling of seriousness behind her posts.

Math beleived that she was the ninja, which we beleived existed because we have a tracker and a motion detection option given to us. I don't think she is the one who holds the role, but it such a role does exist, it either exists on her and infinity

Definitely a deeper level of thought when im town :>

[Noraa]

NOOOOOOOO

NORA HAAMMMEEERRRRRREEDDDDD

T^T T^T T^T
ME SORRY!!

[Noraa]

*grabs onto moms leg*
ur the best at reading me :O

[Noraa]

I dont think ur giving urself enough credit :O
from what I've seen of u, ur aaaamazing!

[Noraa]

I probably should have realized Jacko's shit read on me came from scum but he has terrible reads on me even as town so it was hard.

Abusing my town-meta is fun, but in all seriousness you're annoying to read hahaha

u were scum! ur not allowed to say this >:(

[Noraa]

thank you all for stealing my virginity

No problem it was a very enjoyable experience

Lol you made this sound so wrong.

Jacko .... zero remorse :/ You are a cruel scum.

Sowwy, plz forgives the Jacko :c

*smoothes down my static-y hair*
*clears throat*
*looks at the offering of donuts you brought*
ehm. apology accepted :3

Town played really well tbf, Noraa is half-right but their contradictons and ate was what I latched onto hard. It double helped that they were TRing me which they'll never do now (until the one time I flip scum of course ahaha)

I'll just PL u from now on :3
(jk)