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@hem i still don't like your defense of gerain but i'm losing confidence in my scumlean on you. our exchange about osuka feels like you genuinely voicing your thoughts and asking for mine in return, rather than looking for reasons to believe that osuka can be scum. saying you don't think you'll get much out of a 1v1 and then continuing to engage with me anyway suggests town to me as well. i may catch some flak for "placating" again but i think this is enough for me to move on for the time being.

@gerain can you give us even a rough idea of your reads on the playerlist? i don't care if you have 5 scumleans and 3 nulls, we have got to start somewhere. what are your thoughts on T3? on choof's play vs hme's? on osuka's hostility now vs the games i linked?

I'm less bothered about osuka's hostility than his chainsaw defense of you, Lemons.

i think it will be better if I stay back for the meantime.

In post 587, Egix96 wrote:This means 552, yeah? You don't think they were just trying to placate you? Because that's what it sorta feels like to me.

What's the point of all this if you don't vote Lemons, Egix?

In post 602, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I'm less bothered about osuka's hostility than his chainsaw defense of you, Lemons.

as am i. but i said i'd look into his meta, and i still think the results are valuable, if not quite as revealing as i might've hoped

@ lemons - i have...10 nulls and 2 i don't knows? maybe human eating monkey for his fast about face on me for no good reasons is suspicious - because i didn't do anything to change their mind really.

In post 606, geraintm wrote:maybe human eating monkey for his fast about face on me for no good reasons is suspicious - because i didn't do anything to change their mind really.

i don't know what you're saying because even this post is pretty town

In post 599, InsidiousLemons wrote:gerain's 530 swayed me very slightly, but upon further reflection i really don't think it's any more likely that it's genuine than that it's just a ploy for towncred.

i find it weird that me going to someone "huh- i find your backtracking off of me suspicious" isn't genuine and is voteworthy, but when i actually claim i am town that means nothing

In post 606, geraintm wrote:@ lemons - i have...10 nulls and 2 i don't knows? maybe human eating monkey for his fast about face on me for no good reasons is suspicious - because i didn't do anything to change their mind really.

It doesn't need to visably change his mind to be useful. You can get insight on someone without wanting to just vote them.

In post 608, geraintm wrote:

In post 599, InsidiousLemons wrote:gerain's 530 swayed me very slightly, but upon further reflection i really don't think it's any more likely that it's genuine than that it's just a ploy for towncred.

i find it weird that me going to someone "huh- i find your backtracking off of me suspicious" isn't genuine and is voteworthy, but when i actually claim i am town that means nothing :)

What does this post mean? this post me and I'm not sure why

In post 607, humaneatingmonkey wrote:

In post 606, geraintm wrote:maybe human eating monkey for his fast about face on me for no good reasons is suspicious - because i didn't do anything to change their mind really.

i don't know what you're saying because even this post is pretty town

the timeline was i believe

you think i'm scum
i go "you can think of me as bad town but i am town"
you go "oh yeah, you are right, you are town!"
i go "that's weird you backed off me so easily"
you go "you are spewing town vibes"
i go "i really am not, you are being weird"
you go "see, you did it again!"

i find your interaction with me odd

Anything interesting I should read so far or can I coast today?

oh fuck not this bullshit again

how are your juicers going, vfp? coasting smoothly?

dont even start you two i am not reading 3 consecutive pages of catfighting again

this guy here comes in and again immediately says he'll coast? am i not supposed to be unhappy?

must've not written flavor, huh

flavor

Andante has to catch a flight back home or something, I don't know, I definitely don't have your entire travel itineraries on file. Anyhow. Time to

kidnap

strongly suggest to a passerby that I'll give money to them if they play the game. Hello new person! Play nice.

It's fine Lemons. I'm not going to be participating in making the game toxic.
But since you're here, what's what?

In post 573, humaneatingmonkey wrote:

In post 569, Umlaut wrote:Eww.

Is this a policy lynch? Or you think this was a scummy reaction?

I missed this question. Yes, I think it's a scummy reaction to respond to suspicion of oneself with "but why aren't you suspicious of these other people who did something similar?" It reads like scum indignant about being accused based on what they consider insufficient evidence.

In post 619, Umlaut wrote:

In post 573, humaneatingmonkey wrote:

In post 569, Umlaut wrote:Eww.

Is this a policy lynch? Or you think this was a scummy reaction?

I missed this question. Yes, I think it's a scummy reaction to respond to suspicion of oneself with "but why aren't you suspicious of these other people who did something similar?" It reads like scum indignant about being accused based on what they consider insufficient evidence.

Honestly I agree with this. I haven't really liked much from them this whole game.
VOTE: Gera

In post 616, osuka wrote:this guy here comes in and again immediately says he'll coast? am i not supposed to be unhappy?

it's fine to be unhappy. but don't start with this juicer thing again or i will claw my eyes out

In post 618, VFP wrote:It's fine Lemons. I'm not going to be participating in making the game toxic.
But since you're here, what's what?

sorry, i thought it was customary to read the thread on a replace-in. it's 25 pages dude, just put in even a modicum of effort and form your own opinions instead of trying to tie yourself to me right out the gate

In post 593, Ivyeo wrote:

In post 588, Egix96 wrote: Fwiw @HEM these were the snippets I thought Lemons was town for before.

These posts to me don't neccesarly seem towny. They have a "trying to look productive" feel to them.

Understandable.

In post 599, InsidiousLemons wrote:gerain's 530 swayed me very slightly, but upon further reflection i really don't think it's any more likely that it's genuine than that it's just a ploy for towncred

How is it a ploy for towncred exactly? I think the surprise he shows there is something that would have occurred naturally and hence does not need to be faked.

In post 604, humaneatingmonkey wrote:

In post 587, Egix96 wrote:This means 552, yeah? You don't think they were just trying to placate you? Because that's what it sorta feels like to me.

What's the point of all this if you don't vote Lemons, Egix?

As my next post was meant to show, I still had some pause, and I was hoping that you would respond first.

In post 606, geraintm wrote:10 nulls and 2 i don't knows?

Who are the "I don't knows" then? Frankly this is disappointing.

VOTE: InsidiousLemons

In post 621, InsidiousLemons wrote:

In post 616, osuka wrote:this guy here comes in and again immediately says he'll coast? am i not supposed to be unhappy?

it's fine to be unhappy. but don't start with this juicer thing again or i will claw my eyes out

In post 618, VFP wrote:It's fine Lemons. I'm not going to be participating in making the game toxic.
But since you're here, what's what?

sorry, i thought it was customary to read the thread on a replace-in. it's 25 pages dude, just put in even a modicum of effort and form your own opinions instead of trying to tie yourself to me right out the gate

In post 622, Egix96 wrote:

In post 599, InsidiousLemons wrote:gerain's 530 swayed me very slightly, but upon further reflection i really don't think it's any more likely that it's genuine than that it's just a ploy for towncred

How is it a ploy for towncred exactly? I think the surprise he shows there is something that would have occurred naturally and hence does not need to be faked.

i suppose. the takeaway was supposed to be that the post is NAI. the suggestion that it could be a ploy comes from the notion that generally speaking, questioning a townread on yourself makes people more likely to think you're town. the "seriously?" feels a bit performative to me but i really don't think it's worth reading much into 530. it doesn't form a significant basis for my read on him at all.

and do you really think that emphatically suggesting a replacement read the thread is AtE? they come in here saying they're going to coast (which is also how they started off the last game i played with them) and trying multiple times to piggyback off of others' opinions. how am i supposed to react?