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Andresvmb, JohnnyFarrar, ssbm_Kyouko, Save The Dragons, Lukewarm
RLotus, ItalianoVD
Gamma Emerald
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Not Voting: MaxTheFox, Dunnstral, Noraa

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to reach majority.

The day will end in (expired on 2021-05-28 14:33:00) or when majority is reached.

Lotus, claim.

In post 599, Noraa wrote:

In post 596, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Wanted to see if he knew he wasn't hammering or if he thought he'd hammered

it is sooooo damn easy to see my unvote which is literally on this damn page. and its so easy to lie about something like this. there's no point in a reaction test like this.

I think my RT was still worthwhile. Are you done voting RLotus or was that a serious vote for FMFT?

pedit: assuming you still intend to vote RLotus

I want a claim from lotus but unless he claims pr, he's dying today

I think its too late in the day to suddenly start a new wagon but I mean prove me wrong if you want. I don't have any specific preference atm anyways.

I'm not trying to start a new wagon, I'm checking if you're trying to get off the bus now that we have a replace-in

I got off before he repped in bruh and I've made it clear that I will not no lim. tf is your point? ur stupid idea that rlotus is my scum buddy is not believable at all. If I didn't want this wagon to go through, I guarantee I could do it. I don't even entirely agree with this wagon yet I'm trusting in you and letting it go through and I've brought more votes to this wagon than you. If I wanted to stop this wagon, I would've stopped it long ago.

now that you keep bringing up this stupid theory, I don't want to vote lotus anymore. it seems like you have horrible reads anyways.

In post 606, Noraa wrote:I got off before he repped in bruh and I've made it clear that I will not no lim. tf is your point? ur stupid idea that rlotus is my scum buddy is not believable at all. If I didn't want this wagon to go through, I guarantee I could do it. I don't even entirely agree with this wagon yet I'm trusting in you and letting it go through and I've brought more votes to this wagon than you. If I wanted to stop this wagon, I would've stopped it long ago.

Fact of the matter is if you're scum they're going to run away with it and I think there's a world where it's {RLotus, Italiano, Noraa}. I think far more likely is {RLotus, Italiano, }, but I don't think anyone shares my viewpoint on you so I need to post it

pfft. I highly doubt even both of lotus and ita are scum so like if ur town, ur reads aren't great. You have max 1 scum in that pool of three.
and thanks "one of the lurker slots" is just so helpful.

Well there's not much to go off from them yet

Gamma, Lotus, and Andres are going to need prods soon

FMFT are you caught up yet? What's going on over there?

In post 611, Noraa wrote:Gamma, Lotus, and Andres are going to need prods soon

Stop acting like the prod police it’s annoying. That’s why the game has a Mod.

I kinda feel like lotus is town but I need to actually read what’s happened recently

In post 479, RLotus wrote:Like this shit for example

But you’re shading here without expressing a SR directly. If you think someone is stretching to make a point, that’s clearly Scummy.

In post 615, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 479, RLotus wrote:Like this shit for example

But you’re shading here without expressing a SR directly. If you think someone is stretching to make a point, that’s clearly Scummy.

Idk dude I feel like that's something town does when there is little information to work with. Which is why I'm not calling everyone bad or ridiculous for thinking I'm scum but stuck in a spot where people are reading me scum for nonsense and I have nothing about my play to defend I feel.

In post 580, Noraa wrote:UNVOTE:
Lotus please claim. I don't want a lolhammer and that's the only reason I'm unvoting

In post 603, Noraa wrote:I want a claim from lotus but unless he claims pr, he's dying today

In post 611, Noraa wrote:Gamma, Lotus, and Andres are going to need prods soon

I thought you said you want to be the town leader

I don’t think the way your wagon developed Lotus was necessarily Scummy. But I like your response there. One of these late comers might be piling on as Scum. Let me catch up.

In post 491, ItalianoVD wrote:Why did you agree in the fact of how you felt when reading Gamma only to say, but no it’s scummy to pickup and push on that. And what was wrong with the push on Kyouko? I know you townread him but you don’t see Lukewarm’s push coming from town at all?

I agree with the point (Gamma wanting to make sure that a point made about them was cleared up, which maybe looks defensive), but not with the conclusion that it was Scummy. That’s all. You’ve surely seen Town clear up points about themselves to eliminate any chance at a misconception that gets them wrongly executed. I think the notion that Town don’t care to get executed and Scum always work towards survival is wrong. Scum bus all the time as a strategy. Town know their alignment and some care deeply about not being mis-executed. I know I do. It’s a point of pride, actually.

Yeah Lukewarm’s push could be coming from Town, sure. I am trying to figure out what’s going on and sometimes you have to put ideas out there and see what people think.

In post 493, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 449, Andresvmb wrote:Meh I need to UNVOTE: . I don’t really SR Italiano to be totally honest.

So what was that? A reaction test or something?

I don’t do reaction tests if I’m being transparent. I might conceal information to solidify a thought, or try and catch someone in a lie, but I don’t recall the last time I purposefully argued for something I didn’t believe in just to make a point or coax some information out of someone. It’s not what I typically do. I’m just not effective that way.

In post 527, Lukewarm wrote:So, incase anyone was interested where I am at, I am still leaning towards Kyouko for a vote today because it would give me more info on whether that really was a scum partner save from Gamma, or if Gamma really is town.

This I find Scum does all the time. What I call “Executions for information” type arguments are so common around here for some reason. Oh so if Kyouko flips Town that tells you what about Gamma exactly? That they were defending Town and could be White Knighting? Because that’s an option you haven’t explicitly stated but could be occurring. If you want to argue Kyouko is Scum, I think that should be the focus. If Kyouko flips Scum (and they could be!), then you move onto the next argument. Or you can separately argue Gamma is Scum. But the way this is being presented pings me hard. I want to execute a player to figure out a different player’s alignment? I’m calling bullshit.

VOTE: JohnnyFarrar*