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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:12 am
by D3f3nd3r
In post 598, PokerFace wrote:That is what that means. Congrats^
By the way, it looks like playoff reseeding is not turned on in league 1. The 1 seed is currently playing the 4 seed while the 2 seed is against the 6 seed in league one playoffs
The reseeding also effects the consolation bracket, but no one cares about that any more. Nero lost in round 1 of consolation so previous arguments about that stuff are mute
Yeah that’s another thing Nero forgot to bring up at the start of the season, welp
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:26 am
by Nero Cain
oh noes an actual mistake. good job on 1-3
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:36 am
by Nero Cain
L2 is the Superb Owls(nero) vs. Firebirds Lament(LLD)
Injured Reserve(pooky) vs. Dancin on the Thielen (robbnva)
and the 5th place game is Ramblin' Rhinos(Rhinox) vs. PLIABILITY(Superbowl)
so moving up will be LLD, pooky, rob and one of Rhinox/Superbowl
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:04 am
by D3f3nd3r
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:17 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
he's saying that you constantly pick on him and that of the things you have complained about, this is the first one with "Actual merit" and the other 3 are wrong.
Which is... ridiculous, especially considering you weren't even the one who pointed this one out but HEY
The word of the day is "Petty", so let's just let Nero have this one?
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:24 am
by Nero Cain
lol ok
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:39 am
by D3f3nd3r
In post 604, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
he's saying that you constantly pick on him and that of the things you have complained about, this is the first one with "Actual merit" and the other 3 are wrong.
Which is... ridiculous, especially considering you weren't even the one who pointed this one out but HEY
The word of the day is "Petty", so let's just let Nero have this one?
I mean, if he wants to go in and manually change the matchups and bring me to a disappointing 0-4 record on calling him out, I believe Yahoo gives him the power to do that?
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:44 am
by PokerFace
To some degree I have stired the pot when it comes to the arguements about how Nero has run the league. Part of me may have still been bothered by the incorrect use of the draft picks trading earlier. And so I got mad about minor other things as well. Things I should have remembered to bring up given last years 6 team playoff in league 2
I also admit that I myself wanted the consolation bracket to matter at one point as I thought it could be only chance I had left to save my unlucky team. I was wrong to want and contribute to that discussion
I apologize for these transgressions and have no desire to run the mafiascum fantasy football leagues myself as I feel I have too many other responsibilities already in real life. I wish there was a way we could run the leagues together as friends more than anything. I hope you all have a wonderful holiday season
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:44 am
by Nero Cain
naw, I'm honorable so you get your 1-3 record.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:11 am
by Nero Cain
I think it was fine to discuss whether or not we wanted to make it meaningful. Obviously, Panzer and D3 were against making a change midseason b/c OMG CHANGE despite the fact that it doesn't change how anyone played or who they drafted.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:50 am
by PokerFace
Making the consolation bracket matter late in the season does effect the league. For example, right now I do not feel the need to get any players for my team. My team does not matter. If the consolation bracket mattered, I would try to upgrade players on my team. This would effect waivers and pickups of teams that are in the playoffs. The nfl has rules about head coaching jobs and signings during the playoffs for reasons of collusion and how it would effect the players and teams still in the playoffs after all. This is not a perfect analogy to our consolation bracket situation but it is something we should consider if we ever do have the consolation bracket matter in the future
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:35 am
by Nero Cain
In post 610, PokerFace wrote:This would effect waivers and pickups of teams that are in the playoffs.
I agree but it would still have that same effect next year though. So why is it such a no-no this year but it's ok for next year? Are you now against it? Unless I'm misunderstanding the discussion was about whether or not would change it this year with most everyone agreeing to the change for next year. I didn't care one way or the other despite claims that I had changed it.
I mean, it's a moot point now since we've already started the brackets so it wouldn't be happening this year anways.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:18 pm
by D3f3nd3r
Because it would have changed my strategy. If the consolation bracket mattered, I probably would have tanked the last week of the regular season to get players with good first-week-of-consolation matchups.
The universally accepted rule is that in-season changes to fantasy leagues are only made unanimously. Because if anyone gets screwed over it’s bad.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:19 pm
by D3f3nd3r
“I’m honorable so I’m not gonna change the rules to what they should be”
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:18 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 613, D3f3nd3r wrote:
“I’m honorable so I’m not gonna change the rules to what they should be”
there never was any rule change. The scoring and the roster settings are what we agreed upon in the offseason and despite your and Panzers claims the relegation bracket didn't get changed. If you refer to the seeding then I'm unable to change it once the playoffs start. Good thing too, I made an actual mistake so you can ride me about that instead of making things up.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:37 pm
by D3f3nd3r
In post 614, Nero Cain wrote: In post 613, D3f3nd3r wrote:
“I’m honorable so I’m not gonna change the rules to what they should be”
there never was any rule change. The scoring and the roster settings are what we agreed upon in the offseason and despite your and Panzers claims the relegation bracket didn't get changed. If you refer to the seeding then I'm unable to change it once the playoffs start. Good thing too, I made an actual mistake so you can ride me about that instead of making things up.
Is this what being mad with power is like
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:39 pm
by D3f3nd3r
If I made a mod error in a mafia game and repeatedly said afterwards that I was happy I made that mistake before refusing to fix it, I’d get banned from modding for a long time
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:48 pm
by Nero Cain
It's not that I don't want to fix reseeding (nor did I ever say that I was happy about it. What the actual fuck?!) I literally can't fix reseeding.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:55 pm
by D3f3nd3r
Like it’s definitely sarcasm but still
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:23 am
by PokerFace
Nero Cain wrote: In post 610, PokerFace wrote:This would effect waivers and pickups of teams that are in the playoffs.
I agree but it would still have that same effect next year though. So why is it such a no-no this year but it's ok for next year? Are you now against it? Unless I'm misunderstanding the discussion was about whether or not would change it this year with most everyone agreeing to the change for next year. I didn't care one way or the other despite claims that I had changed it.
I mean, it's a moot point now since we've already started the brackets so it wouldn't be happening this year anways.
I am kinda undecided in hindsight. Making it matter part way through season absolutely changes strategy. I'd rather we vote on it at beginning of the season
I am rather glad it not matter since I getting beat in that bracket at the moment
Whoever runs league 1 next year please be sure to cover voting options for consolation bracket mattering and playoffs getting reseeded please
I think KMD should remain head of league 2 since he did it this year and no one has complained to my knowledge
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:37 am
by D3f3nd3r
Yeah L1 will be in need of a new person since Nero is moving down. I’m sure he’ll take over L2 and run all of the poll stuff though, can’t imagine he’ll have any desire to delegate that to the L1 commish.
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:02 pm
by Kilgamayan
In post 619, PokerFace wrote:Whoever runs league 1 next year please be sure to cover voting options for consolation bracket mattering and playoffs getting reseeded please
I had these in mind should people be fine with me, don't worry.
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:45 pm
by Nero Cain
I don't really agree.
We don't need to vote on reseeding b/c it was supposed to be on and I just messed up on that one. I'm fine voting on making the consolation bracket matter and in hindsight, I think it's a great idea and I'm upset that I didn't think of it.
In post 0, Nero Cain wrote:Don't join unless you will participate for the
. Failure to do so may result in relegation or banning from the league.
One could argue that the entire season does include the consolation bracket and thus having it matter this year was already in the rules but I'm not a hardliner so I was absolutely ok with it not mattering this year.
I'd be remiss to add that if we did decide to go with a consolation bracket that matters we'd have to keep the current 6 go to the playoffs.
In post 620, D3f3nd3r wrote:run all of the poll stuff though, can’t imagine he’ll have any desire to delegate that to the L1 commish.
???
I don't mind if KMD has the commish ability next year or not. It's just writing some questions on a google form and if that's something Killa really wants to be able to do...fine? Only thing would be if I get out the op next year so maybe he needs to pm me the link so I can put it in there.
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:57 pm
by D3f3nd3r
In post 622, Nero Cain wrote:
I don't really agree.
We don't need to vote on reseeding b/c it was supposed to be on and I just messed up on that one. I'm fine voting on making the consolation bracket matter and in hindsight, I think it's a great idea and I'm upset that I didn't think of it.
In post 0, Nero Cain wrote:Don't join unless you will participate for the
. Failure to do so may result in relegation or banning from the league.
One could argue that the entire season does include the consolation bracket and thus having it matter this year was already in the rules but I'm not a hardliner so I was absolutely ok with it not mattering this year.
I'd be remiss to add that if we did decide to go with a consolation bracket that matters we'd have to keep the current 6 go to the playoffs.
In post 620, D3f3nd3r wrote:run all of the poll stuff though, can’t imagine he’ll have any desire to delegate that to the L1 commish.
???
I don't mind if KMD has the commish ability next year or not. It's just writing some questions on a google form and if that's something Killa really wants to be able to do...fine? Only thing would be if I get out the op next year so maybe he needs to pm me the link so I can put it in there.
If Kilga made the OP next year as L1 commish would you see that as a problem?
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:33 am
by PJ.
In post 622, Nero Cain wrote:One could argue that the entire season does include the consolation bracket and thus having it matter this year was already in the rules but I'm not a hardliner so I was absolutely ok with it not mattering this year.
I'd be remiss to add that if we did decide to go with a consolation bracket that matters we'd have to keep the current 6 go to the playoffs.
Lol