How fuckin dare you.In post 4977, Amy Dunne wrote:I am. Flea 100% wrote that.In post 4974, Chara wrote:i do wish i was as certain as you were but i'm not and i won't be until the game is over.
I capitalise possessive I.
How fuckin dare you.In post 4977, Amy Dunne wrote:I am. Flea 100% wrote that.In post 4974, Chara wrote:i do wish i was as certain as you were but i'm not and i won't be until the game is over.
Clidd is like +1 or same timezone as me...In post 4959, Chara wrote:i think Ydrasse could have wrote it, especially if she was trying to pretend she didn't. clidd could also have, though i find him less likely than Ydrasse. and i expected timezones to clear clidd 100% but i don't know if it actually does given the times clidd has posted this game, but don't quote me on that because i may have done the math wrong when i say clidd has posted the same time as Yin's usual posting time, and the outlier posting times also seem doable enough. the one that sticks out is one time where Yin posted at what would be 2am for clidd. but i do agree that Flea makes the most sense.
i can agree that Yin's posting doesn't look like the other examples of writing Flea's provided. problem being: Flea's arguing Yin's writing doesn't look like faer writing, as though scum writing Yin decides to write in their own writing style. wifom sure but Flea's attempts at showing how fae definitely would not write like this, specifically calling attention to the americanized spellings (color, demeanor) feels like fae did that to be able to point to later to show all these ways that it definitely was not faer.
or more likely wanted it to be noticed rather than point out faerself but the only thing that was noticed initially was the "artefact" thing, which makes me think that was unintentional.
You know Cummerbund Bandersnatch does more than Sherlock Holmes, right? He's a stage actor as well...In post 4969, Amy Dunne wrote:It’s possible but Flea wrote Yin flavour and fae is trying to convince us that watching Sherlock Holmes somehow causes you to write “artifacts” like “artefacts” and the eating thing fae posted. Well I literally had scum make a comparible argument in another game I was in.In post 4966, Chara wrote:it might be a good way to deflect, it is a little risky to wait even that long at 5 votes to elim, but i guess that's also why.In post 4960, Amy Dunne wrote:Spoiler:
Who makes the most sense as Ircher detonater here? Flea who voted Ircher or Clidd?
A great way to defect by voting Ircher then 28 minutes later, blowing him up?
Like it’s obvious scum was monitoring Ircher wagon or it would have succeeded.
In post 4958, Amy Dunne wrote:14 minutes after Ircher self-voted detonate happened. No way are we yeeting Flea ever in this game.In post 2891, Yin wrote:The sunlight bakes the man in his underground casket. Its hot but his back remains cool. His eyes open and the sky is gone from their reflection. The sun leaves them red as he stares up at the shapes around him. The earth unwraps where it hadn't moved.
They blame the hatted man. He blames them- he steals the sun and they miss the moon, what little it does. Even her, even-
Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even herEVEN HER.
His skin crawls with heat. The pit in his stomach burns cold.
If they want a real show- the man has known his role since the first lie to the stars and moon trapped in her eyes.
His fingers snap.
DETONATE.
I keep reading this is it's making me nauseous...Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even her EVEN HER.
Made me that nauseous I couldn't even English myself apparently xDIn post 4993, Flea The Magician wrote:I keep reading this is it's making me nauseous...Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even her EVEN HER.
In post 4992, Flea The Magician wrote:Updating the list...
I'm scum because Yin...
- Used the English spelling of "artefacts"
but used the US version of "color"...
- Has a "poetic and similar" writing style
but has so many contradictions and jank compared to my writing style and comparing pieces I just randomly made with no thought...
- Has "poetic and similar writing"
Despite the fact all the proof is literal song lyrics and the songs are linked in my sig as a spotify playlist...
- Detonated Ircher 22-28 minutes after I last posted in thread and 4.5 hours before I reappeared...
Despite the fact I eat at that time and had a RL event happen that I'm not willing to go in to
- This bullshit not-even-a-tell...
In post 4958, Amy Dunne wrote:14 minutes after Ircher self-voted detonate happened. No way are we yeeting Flea ever in this game.In post 2891, Yin wrote:The sunlight bakes the man in his underground casket. Its hot but his back remains cool. His eyes open and the sky is gone from their reflection. The sun leaves them red as he stares up at the shapes around him. The earth unwraps where it hadn't moved.
They blame the hatted man. He blames them- he steals the sun and they miss the moon, what little it does. Even her, even-
Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even herEVEN HER.
His skin crawls with heat. The pit in his stomach burns cold.
If they want a real show- the man has known his role since the first lie to the stars and moon trapped in her eyes.
His fingers snap.
DETONATE.
- The simplest solution points to it being me when it is vastly more complex.
- FUCKING TIMEZONES.
Pot Kettle. That's all I'm saying.In post 5025, clidd wrote:i mean, flea has basically had a tone of debauchery since faer slot was set as universal PoE and i don't see any solving coming from fae regarding ydrasse/chara/me
most posts are performative fillers that reflect like outed scum
you probably also haven't forgotten the mechanical theory that served as an excuse for faer to avoid scumhunting/townhunting for most of the game
pedit: meh, so go ahead then
because flea has to be town for chara to be scum
I dont, I assume nothing at this stage.In post 5034, Amy Dunne wrote:In post 5015, Flea The Magician wrote:I could actually get behind Chara today...Why do you autoassume that makes him scum?In post 5016, Flea The Magician wrote:clidd ignoring me is amazing ngl, and I'm sure that's cause he knows I'll break him >:)
not sure what you're sorry for, but eh. It's a game.In post 5038, Amy Dunne wrote:Pooky convinced me Ydra was Yin, sorry Flea.In post 5020, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im like 95% of the way to locking in chara as last scum
pfffpfpfpftIn post 5048, clidd wrote:chara isn't clear, but the way she and chara were arguing made me lean town!chara after a ydrasse scumflip and flea's play in general has been more compatible with scumIn post 5045, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:how does ydra red flip clear chara?In post 5028, clidd wrote:after reading the last two pages of flea's iso i don't see anything related to town-solving or anything i like
chara's iso is meh, but looks better than flea and its interactions with ydrasse don't seem s/s (unless you think they did ss theater)
but as I said, I'm not imposing my read, you two are the ones who will decide not me
Honestly, my tinfoil was Ydra put a lot of effort into the "Kabuto Kid" post or whatever you call him, and given she's an English Major, she'd know the power of wordplay.In post 5047, Amy Dunne wrote:I was sure you had to be Yin and that’s why Ydra scumflip forced me to reacess.In post 5041, Flea The Magician wrote:not sure what you're sorry for, but eh. It's a game.In post 5038, Amy Dunne wrote:Pooky convinced me Ydra was Yin, sorry Flea.In post 5020, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im like 95% of the way to locking in chara as last scum
I find their lockread of me laughable, to be honest, and he's doing everything he can to avoid interaction with me.In post 5077, Chara wrote:not sure what of this post is clidd refusing to reassess, besides that he still scumreads you more. the reasoning is directly based on Ydrasse's flip and the fact she kept avoiding me.In post 5057, Flea The Magician wrote:pfffpfpfpft
Now who's the stubborn one refusing to reassess. I was always assessing other players around me you know, you should know that Clidd, you know I'm always watching and judging interactions between people.
Frankly I'm in a shit place in this game, and it's not going to do much this game due to my position of the ass end of reads lists.In post 5085, Chara wrote:i think engaging with you is the bare minimum i'd do as scum here too. i can agree about it generally being anti-town to avoid it, but i don't see why it makes clidd scum or me less likely scum for you.
It doesn't. I'm looking for town, not towncred - because frankly I ain't going to get any by any stretch at this point, so I may as well keep going the best I can and hope it comes down to the 1vs1 at least.In post 5086, Chara wrote:first part i understand as a read, second part i don't understand from the perspective of you still need to eliminate the town besides yourself even if you're planning to be the last one left. why does it make you more town fypov?In post 5080, Flea The Magician wrote:Part of the issue is Clidd now seems to be trying to play safe. He's literally just dropped the read, and stepped back leaving all responsibility to others.
At least I'm here talking with people, I've no intent to vote and certainly will not vote for myself. Clidds locked in harder than I was.
Hey you got my good side tooIn post 5093, Yang wrote:
I wont be voting today. I will air my reads, I will talk and interact, my reads have been stupid bad. Clidd isnt dong the same, becase he is not interacting, he is hardlining his inactivity. At least I'm still trying. Looking town isnt my wincon town being yeet, including me and i'll deal with that later.In post 5096, Chara wrote:you don't want to influence Amy and Pooky's decision, but you've been mentioning clidd being scummy for a while. are you just planning on sheeping them? clidd is doing the same thing so i'm having a hard time figuring out which one of you is the town here, all i really have to go on is Ydrasse's treatment of both your slots, and clidd doesn't really fit as a partner for her to me, unless you have a reason to think that. like, i'm also trying to find out which one of you is the town, looking town should be half your wincon here.
Given I'm lock scum to you, there should be no lean. It should be absolute.In post 5122, clidd wrote:i'm still leaning town!chara and scum!flea
give me some minutes (I'll look for a scumgame of mine)
Given I'm lock scum to you, there should be no lean. It should be absolute.In post 5122, clidd wrote:i'm still leaning town!chara and scum!flea
give me some minutes (I'll look for a scumgame of mine)
I dont have a locked read, and I certainly haven't spent the last 2 in game days blanking another player.In post 5137, Chara wrote:meanwhile you keep talking about why clidd is so scummy and acting like not his town self, but also you're suspicious of both of us and aren't sure, but haven't actually given a reason for me to be scum at all.
You know me enough to know how I work, and I can appriciate the backing off before becoming toxic, it's something I need to work on myself.In post 5142, clidd wrote:the point of me not voting for you now was because my certainty the day before (ydrasse) was incorrect, which didn't give me so much confidence to trust 100% even in a lock-read (something not difficult to deduce)
but your interpretation of ''hey, look, clidd' doesn't demonstrate the confidence he should have in this read'' doesn't strike me as something of a town mentality that's trying to read me
There are several worlds in which you can still achieve your town model, which is the funny thing here.In post 5149, clidd wrote:I mean, while from my perspective your slot looks awful, from your perspective I'm not playing the town!clidd model you have, so it would probably be difficult for you to consider any post on my part as relevant to townread me (considering that in this world I would never act according to your expectations).
We would go around in circles of bad impressions about each other indefinitely until a greater force stops the loop (vote/elim).
I have no intention to convince you, or anyone for that matter.In post 5152, clidd wrote:@Flea
Not saying you have an obligation to convince me, since from the perspective of town!you I should be the one trying to convince you, but if we both follow that line basically nothing will change or happen ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But I really needed something strong to doubt Chara or something coming from you that would make me question my current perspective about you.
I am a strong mechanics player, and a weak reads player.In post 5153, clidd wrote:Also, a point that would be interesting for you to talk about is the non-revaluation of Tanner by play, as you gave more credibility to the result of a mechanical theory (which we had no idea if it was reliable or not) instead of checking if Tanner seemed more towny or scummy for you.
I don't see how town!flea would insist on this angle.
My other dilemma currently is that any pressure applied from me is worth nothing.In post 5158, Amy Dunne wrote:I tyink it’s extremely important that whichever two of you are town, don’t auto assume who’s scum but be opej to the possibility that you could be wrong.
Like I agree Chara looks very good rn but it also is experiencing no pressure here from either Clidd or Flea and if both of you are town, we won’t be able to tell if Chara receives no pressure from either of you. It will be a lot easier to accurately evaluate Chara if it can’t just easily coast.
Like Robert played extemely scummy but he wound up flipping town. Chara may still be town but sonlong as it experiences 0 pressure from either Clidd or Flea, it’s really hard to be certain.
Frankly none of us should be self-voting at this point anyway.In post 5160, Chara wrote:i am under pressure right now. this is so much pressure. i've only been posting this much because i'm trying to show i'm town. like it is to the point i almost want to just be wrong and scum gets eliminated today so i don't have to go into Elo and drag it out even more.In post 5158, Amy Dunne wrote:Like I agree Chara looks very good rn but it also is experiencing no pressure here from either Clidd or Flea and if both of you are town, we won’t be able to tell if Chara receives no pressure from either of you. It will be a lot easier to accurately evaluate Chara if it can’t just easily coast.
coasting is what i do when we have miseliminations and i have other players to sheep/soundboard off of. this is not that.
Who would you choose?In post 5162, Yang wrote:It's me. I should choose
Hey I got burned by the mechanics so I'm going to have fun with this persona.In post 5180, Amy Dunne wrote:Yang posted in the masonry that Yin was town.In post 5165, Flea The Magician wrote:Who would you choose?In post 5162, Yang wrote:It's me. I should choose
And this may be a slightly touchy subject, but without Yin to provide balance, what happens to you now?
Yeah, we both mod games.In post 5186, Yang wrote:Flea shares an alignment with Hectic.
Town Flea embraces chaos.In post 5193, Chara wrote:when i played with scum Flea, faer arguments made more sense to me than they are right now, i don't know if that's incidental or an indicator fae might try to be more "palatable" in faer play as scum, but it's hard to make a judgement with so little experience, just something i was considering.
But this is how I've interpreted it.In post 5222, clidd wrote:This makes me want to vote Chara ^In post 5217, Flea The Magician wrote:The biggest screw factor in this game is for 3 of us, it's 50/50 already.
For two of us, it's dodging the needle in the haystack.
This isn't a simple game by any means - it's a freaking Hecc-tic game.
This is part of my beef with Clidd rn.
Clidd has his solve, and is being contradictory over the "I want to see if Chara is town, but flea is absolutely scum here" as though these are potentially difference scenarios.
Then Chara I don't recall has actually expressed a solve-like read here.
It's not the first time you've interpreted my post in the worst possible way.
You may take your bad-faith argument, and I'm sure you can work out where to place it.In post 5238, clidd wrote:In post 5232, Flea The Magician wrote:No, I'd be inclined to believe you.
While clidd is scummy af in his evasion of me and what appear to me to be fake re-read attempts, Chara seems so lacking in todays efforts
I have nothing productive to discuss with you and your bad faith has been an constant element during much of this phase directed at me.
This is not playing to your wincon. This is "fuggit idc"In post 5237, clidd wrote:don't care much about the final result even though I'm playing according to my wicon (respecting site rules)
Slight push given Clidds near refusal to speak with me much.In post 5256, Amy Dunne wrote:Both you and Flea were fine with yeeting Chara. Neither of you was afraid of 1v1ing the other. Having to navigate a 1v1 is pretty much scum’s worst nightmare. I’ve been in that situation twice as scum. Won it once and lost it the second time. It’s far easier to win in an E-3 than an E -2 always.In post 5254, clidd wrote:Yep, I also noticed that it doesn't have such a strong instance compared to me/flea (who have been fighting for a long time).In post 5247, Amy Dunne wrote:In post 5211, Chara wrote:5204 is what i thought Pooky meant. he thinks i'm scum so it doesn't matter who i pick.In post 5207, Amy Dunne wrote:I’m not locked into Flea being scum since Ydra flipped. Do you honestly think this is what Pooky actually meant?In post 5213, Chara wrote:not trying to say Pooky's actually trying to make the game's outcome my fault, just saying that was what is stressing me out.Chara obviously has to know that Pooky isn’t abdicating responsibility for the outcome of this game. It reads like frozen scum with this. It doesn’t want to take a strong stand on either Clidd or Flea because it then knows it has to backtrack on it, where as both Clidd and Flea had no problem doing this. Town tends to not really concern themselves with this sort of thing because they know they will have no trouble re-evaluating but scum tends to struggle with that, hence the frozen response.In post 5215, Chara wrote:just vote whoever you want to then.
A point that I liked was it sympathizing with me, but on second thought ydrasse also sympathized with me (and she was scum) so...
This is one of my big concerns with the Chara yeet rn if I'm honest.In post 5257, Amy Dunne wrote:It’s just my opinion that yours and Flea’s response to the gamestate look townier than Chara’s. Chara doesn’t want to take a stand on either of you.In post 5255, clidd wrote:I'm interested to see how Chara will react to these recent events.
Pooky is freaking scary. Genuinely they scare me if we're in a game together.In post 5299, Hectic wrote:Pooky's kinda OP, isn't he
ROFLIn post 5309, Ydrasse wrote:THE IRCHER DETONATION POST TOOK A YEAR OFF MY LIFE
Nope. Water makes things wet.In post 5369, Amy Dunne wrote:In other absolutely shocking news, scientists have discovered that water is indeed wet.