Mini 623- Science Mafia- Over!

[Knight of Cydonia]

Because he wears a nice suit and kills people? [/sarcasm]

[imaginality]

Ah. I still think you're scum. Even if I hadn't jailed you and had that reason to suspect you, your posts today give plenty of cause to think you're scum, and comments like

Scum - feel free to jump on in with the last few votes. You've misled the town well enough, well played.

aren't going to deter me from voting you.

Vote: Knight of Cydonia

[Lord Gurgi]

Dahill: Because I send people to light speed travel, it seemed to me that my role fit a vig more than whatever the heck the common name is for my role.

That's KoC at L-1 right? Who wants to make a better hammer?

[dahill1]

i'm willing to hammer
if KoC isn't scum then i blame him for being so goddamned scummy

[Lord Gurgi]

if KoC isn't scum then i blame him for being so goddamned scummy

[Awesome Pants]

I have a good gut feeling that KoC is scum. The way he's played so far is just

off

.

[Ku_F]

AP, you don't do anything right now!
If you have read this game after the time that you were absent, you should have seen that we've claimed our night actions. You and Claus are the only ones who haven't done so. Also include you're role as we've done that as well.

Next question, did you read the posts you missed? The claiming part has been the main part about this game of this day. Afterwards comes the KoC lynch. I already told about the claiming after your returning post (see post 594). Strange enough, you miss the claiming part, but not the KoC lynch. You don't have the right to talk about hammering now. If you do, while we haven't discussed your night actions yet, you'll regret the next day.

As for the others, don't hammer until AP at least has given his claims. I'd prefer to wait till Claus has done the same, but if someone can't wait (with the exception of AP as mentioned above) I can't do anything about it.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Awesome Pants: what a wonderful sense of irony.

[Knight of Cydonia]

if KoC isn't scum then i blame him for being so goddamned scummy

Because we don't take responsibility for mislynches around here, god-dammit!

[Awesome Pants]

AP, you don't do anything right now!
If you have read this game after the time that you were absent, you should have seen that we've claimed our night actions. You and Claus are the only ones who haven't done so. Also include you're role as we've done that as well.

Next question, did you read the posts you missed? The claiming part has been the main part about this game of this day. Afterwards comes the KoC lynch. I already told about the claiming after your returning post (see post 594). Strange enough, you miss the claiming part, but not the KoC lynch. You don't have the right to talk about hammering now. If you do, while we haven't discussed your night actions yet, you'll regret the next day.

As for the others, don't hammer until AP at least has given his claims. I'd prefer to wait till Claus has done the same, but if someone can't wait (with the exception of AP as mentioned above) I can't do anything about it.

I can claim, but my role is the type of role where it's about 100% more effective if the scum don't know what it is. I'd very much prefer to claim tomorrow if you all really want me to, but can do today if a majority would like it.

Also, I'll have to consider if your request could be considered trying to stall KoC's wagon. I very much get the feeling it could be when you consider the timing of it.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Oh no, it is THE BIG BAD ALL-POWERFUL ROLE THAT MUST GO UN-NAMED!
Well, we clearly can't lynch AP ever now...

Oh, and AP, if you're accusing Ku_F of stalling on a lynch you've been supporting but not voting on for all of this day, why don't you hammer? Hmm? Accusations of stalling imply that you want someone lynched - but I don't see your vote on me.
Methinks you're trying to set up a fall guy for next day's lynch.
Agree with Ku_F on the point you cleverly ignored - selective reading is a nice scum-tell. Ignoring the repeated requests for your night action, whilst managing to keep your back-seat support of my lynch up... impressive.

[imaginality]

Er, Awesome Pants' vote is already on you (post 517).

[Awesome Pants]

Oh no, it is THE BIG BAD ALL-POWERFUL ROLE THAT MUST GO UN-NAMED!
Well, we clearly can't lynch AP ever now...

Oh, and AP, if you're accusing Ku_F of stalling on a lynch you've been supporting but not voting on for all of this day, why don't you hammer? Hmm? Accusations of stalling imply that you want someone lynched - but I don't see your vote on me.
Methinks you're trying to set up a fall guy for next day's lynch.
Agree with Ku_F on the point you cleverly ignored - selective reading is a nice scum-tell. Ignoring the repeated requests for your night action, whilst managing to keep your back-seat support of my lynch up... impressive.

1) I am voting you, and have been for most of the day. I'd hammer you if I could. You're clearly trying to make me appear like scum though, with your condescending language, irony and constant appeals to emotion. If you're so sure of me being scum why aren't YOU voting for me? A townie in your situation (on the brink of being lynched in possible mylo) would be doing everything they can to try and avoid their lynch by going after the person who they think is scum. All you're trying to do is throw suspicion around everywhere.

2) The known meta in a 12 player game is 3 scum, meaning that if we mislynch today, we've probably lost. My role has a, albeit small, chance
of stopping that, though I'm not willing to say how or it effectively won't.

3) If there are 3 scum, and you're not one of them, there would be no reason for anybody to try and set up tomorrow's lynch as the scum would (most likely) win with your lynch.

4) If you're not scum, and we somehow get another day, how would my 'setting up' of Ku_F work? Nobody would want to lynch him cause he was stalling on a townie's wagon. Nice slip.

[Gorrad]

I'm so pleased with my vote. It's grand.

[armlx]

KoC- 4 (Awesome Pants, Gorrad, Gurgi, imaginality)
LordGurgi- 1 (KoC)

Not Voting- 3 (Hypatia, dahill1, Claus)

8 alive, 5 to lynch.

Prodding Claus.

Deadline in 2 weeks from this post.

[Ku_F]

Hey, I've replaced hypatia. Why is she still listed and not me? I thought you were happy to have a replacement for her.

AP explain post 609. How come your claim can't be told today, but can tomorrow without the majority?

Dahill and Claus, please wait with hammering. We have now 2 weeks till deadline and one error could mean we lose. I don't want to risk anything.

AP I can consider if you want to lynch KoC no matter what. One of the reasons is that you don't want to claim. See my comment about it in this post. Also, immediatly when you come in, you start talking about lynching KoC. Not one thing about the claims. Besides, your role can't be said according to you, but what about the night actions of yours? You could tell those, not?

Also you haven't answered my question yet. Did you read the posts you missed. For the whole situation behind this question, look at post 606.

Now that we're talking about the claims and the night actions, is there anything you'd like to mention about it?

[Knight of Cydonia]

unvote; vote Awesome Pants

Happy now, scum?
Feel free to call this OMGUS, by the way.

[Lord Gurgi]

KoC: If you are scum you need to learn how to play. If you are town you need to learn how to play. Either way, you are screwing over your team by playing like this. Because, you know what? That is OMGUS, textbook, in fact.

[dahill1]

KoC: If you are scum you need to learn how to play. If you are town you need to learn how to play. Either way, you are screwing over your team by playing like this. Because, you know what? That is OMGUS, textbook, in fact.

[Awesome Pants]

Hey, I've replaced hypatia. Why is she still listed and not me? I thought you were happy to have a replacement for her.

AP explain post 609. How come your claim can't be told today, but can tomorrow without the majority?

Dahill and Claus, please wait with hammering. We have now 2 weeks till deadline and one error could mean we lose. I don't want to risk anything.

AP I can consider if you want to lynch KoC no matter what. One of the reasons is that you don't want to claim. See my comment about it in this post. Also, immediatly when you come in, you start talking about lynching KoC. Not one thing about the claims. Besides, your role can't be said according to you, but what about the night actions of yours? You could tell those, not?

Also you haven't answered my question yet. Did you read the posts you missed. For the whole situation behind this question, look at post 606.

Now that we're talking about the claims and the night actions, is there anything you'd like to mention about it?

I can full claim whenever I want, but my role is much more useful to the town if I don't. And yeah, I caught up with the majority of what I missed I think.

I'd like to ask what do YOU think about KoC?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Oh, right, so the fact Awesome Pants popped up, voted me, then disappeared until the lynch needed a bit of a push to get that hammer isn't scummy? And the fact he is refusing to claim even his night actions in a game where it would really help, considering everyone else has done so so far? And the fact that, in a game where we have 3 scum still alive, AP, Gorrad and Gurgi (I'm discounting imaginality because I've had town vibes on him - it was Gorrad, Gurgi and AP who engineered the beginning of this day far too perfectly) are determinedly pushing a mislynch on me still?

dahill - why don't you hammer, if you agree with Gurgi?

[Ku_F]

AP, how come you always answer a few questions of my post, but not all of them?
I asked if you could tell your night actions? This has nothing to do with your claim. What's wrong with telling these. Besides, I'm still interested in your claim. But I'll leave it for now.
What do you think about the claimed roles and the targets during the nights?

[dahill1]

Dahill and Claus, please wait with hammering. We have now 2 weeks till deadline and one error could mean we lose. I don't want to risk anything.

there is still plenty of discussion going on KoC. no need to cut it off unnecessarily

[armlx]

Claus has requested replacement.

[Awesome Pants]

AP, how come you always answer a few questions of my post, but not all of them?
I asked if you could tell your night actions? This has nothing to do with your claim. What's wrong with telling these. Besides, I'm still interested in your claim. But I'll leave it for now.
What do you think about the claimed roles and the targets during the nights?

Revealing my targets could kinda hit at my role so I'm hesitant to do so. What do you think you'll gain from me doing so?

I don't know what to make out of the claimed roles and targets (to be honest I haven't really considered them very much - I'll try to do it sometime next week) but generally with a game with so many power roles the logic game gets a bit confusing early on.

What about my question, what do you think of KoC?