Manatee's Pokemon Large Theme | Game Over

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:39 am

In post 6688, Milobird wrote:The simplest explanation is that Pooky shot Mastina because she was going to vote him.
You do not need to read into this further.
I do not do trick shots.

-Bell

its not even a trick shot rofl

mastina had me at 59% lean

cakes wanted to kill you

if cakes gets shot overnight mastina probly flips from leaning me to leaning you

you neeeded to shoot her to freeze her reads and use
her death to convince cakes to vote me

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:39 am

this isnt even rocket science

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:40 am

you're a towel

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:42 am

I am going to mail bell his graduation certificate from bad scum school regardless of whether he wins or not.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:42 am

dude balled out HARD this game

mad respect

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:44 am

its a high iq play

hes not shooting mastina for where she is

hes shooting mastina for where she will be if cakes dies

peta makes those shots all the time and hes probly best scum player on the site.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:47 am

cakes just hammer milo and the pain is over. i believe in you

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:47 am

you dont have to be michael jordan to shoot a free throw

you dont have to be peta level scum to make a wifom nightkill.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:48 am

like this is such a logical fallacy

first they were saying its super dumb for them to kill mastina

now they r saying they r not peta level scum so they wouldnt kill mastina

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:48 am

In post 6709, Milobird wrote:DO YOU THINK I'M UNABLE TO READ OR SOMETHING?

JUST KILL HIM, JESUS.

-Bell

desperate scum here

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:49 am

they cant even keep their lies straight anymore they r just spamming to pressure you to vote wrong

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:50 am

so is it smart or is it not smart make up ur fucking mind

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:51 am

you said it was stupid

i said no its not stupid peta does this shit all the time and heres why it makes sense

you then said you arent as good as peta which implies its not stupid

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:55 am

In post 6719, Milobird wrote:
In post 6713, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:they cant even keep their lies straight anymore they r just spamming to pressure you to vote wrong
Pooky wants to sing you a lullaby before knifing you in the back.

I'm shouting Knife.

I just solved the game for you Sircakez.

can you stop spamming gibberish and just let cakes reread/ask questions

this is just getting absurd atp

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:59 am

so you are due

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:04 am

In post 6723, Milobird wrote:There are many, many extremely sple reasons it's Pooky this game.

1. Ralts repped out.
2. All of his scum partners avoided him.
3. Pooky has motive to shoot his own partner.
4. Pooky is terminally lazy when he's scum.
5. Imaginality gift wrapped the scum team to you and Dwlee lost control of his shit for a microsecond and gave the game away even harder.
6. Pooky continues to be a siren song, someone who tells you what you want to hear, someone who is not, in anyway going to challenge you least he gets on your bad side. There is a clear motivation to curry favor with you. there is a clear explanation for his favor.
7. Everybody else is solving/hesitating, but Pooky who is the odd bear out. No hesitation, his argument was that he already solved invisibly and therefore he never had to solve in the first place. He has multiple times lied or isrepresentented others.
8. His arguments are terrible. His logic is broken. He's projecting hard.
9. We never shoot Mastina with her end of day posts.

-Bell

1. every replacement this game is town. every scum this game did not replace out.
2. ralts is town.
3. do you have a single example of me shooting a scum partner in 20 years on this site? thats not how i play.
4. actually i would probly tryhard as scum here
5. imagnality was tying scum with town together to get mis elims. it literally makes no sense to tie all your scum buddies together.
6. wtf is this point. is town pooky supposed to be mean to cakes or some shit?
7. i know its you i dont need to make up a fake solve to get there
8. garbage gibberish
9. wifom

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:06 am

In post 6726, Milobird wrote:@cakez ask Pooky his scum win rate including alts

this is another logical fallacy

my win rate as scum has literally no bearing on whether I am scum in this specific game

you are trying to put the fear of Pooky scum into Cakes head in order to get him to fear-vote me and lose the game.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:11 am

In post 6730, Milobird wrote:I am trying to get him to adequately estimate your capabilities.

Don’t dodge the question, I don’t want to waste my homework time doing that research. But I will.

how am i dodging the question

i literally dont know my win rate

you can compile it for me i dont really care

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:13 am

im not deflecting i am just pointing out what you are trying to do

My scum win rate literally has no bearing on whether I am mafia or town

you are literally using a logical fallacy to try to get cakes scared of me and vote me.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:20 am

wtf does my skill level have to do with anything

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:22 am

and how r u going to sit there and say with a straight face that I am OBVSCUM and then when that doesnt work try to claim I am God-level scum and he needs to vote me cuz my win rate as scum is good?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:22 am

like you contradict yourself

this is just desperate hurl kitchen sink at the wall level nonsense

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:19 am

she literally changed her mind from d8 to d9 by going from wanting milo to saying pooky is a slight lean at 59%

if she is kept alive deliberately to elo there is a pretty good chance she changes her mind again.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:21 am

like just flip the logic around the other way

if a mastina kill implicates me then a sircakes kill implicates milo

thats motive enough for them to not kill sir cakes.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:00 pm

spamming = effort now lol

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:44 pm

hammering birdie!scum will make you feel even better

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:44 pm

just facts

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:22 pm

I would prefer not to be paranoia elimmed at the last moment for townloss cuz that would suck

like I dont get how my meta is so obviously anti-bus but people still murder me anyway lol

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:55 pm

you literally asked me what my scum win rate is.

that is the definition of trying to create a paranoia elim

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:57 pm

Pooky wins a lot as scum -> we need to elim pooky is just basic paranoia nonsense.

it doesn't take into account actual things that have happened.

If anything it makes LESS sense for me to be scum and bus the shit out of my entire team because if I have a high scum win rate by NOT bussing why the fuck would I start bussing when its

(a) less fun for me
and
(b) i can win fine by not bussing?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:01 pm

every nightkill has been on conftown or investigative so that argument is kind of a load of crap

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:05 pm

In post 6757, Milobird wrote:Isn't the classic thing we're supposed to ask ourselves in elo "why am I still alive?"

We're still alive because Pooky couldn't vote or eliminate Mastina. They could however eliminate us they even have a test case in which Koba lost his back and forth with Pooky. Demonstrating that Pooky's path was viable.
You're still alive because you're in Pooky's pocket.
Pooky is still alive because they're scum.

-Bell

I am alive because you decided it would be easier to 1v1 with me than Mastina since nobody is willing to vote for Mastina.

Mastina is dead because you decided that's the nightkill Pooky!scum would make and you think it will get Cakes to flip on me.

You were also worried she would change her mind yet again.

Cakes is alive because you think you can get him to flip on me and the pressure is starting to get to him.

You are alive because you don't want to shoot yourself.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:10 pm

You managed to get to day 10 of a large theme without being investigated, or eliminated by puffing up your chest and insisting you can't be scum with self-meta and nonsense.

You are one misvote away from winning and getting out of bad scum jail forever.

I am rooting for you.

I'd say you did alright homie.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:13 pm

In post 6768, Milobird wrote:Lol, This is sircakez erasure. There remains no reason for us to kill Mastina and take our chances with Sircakez. You're intentionally ignoring that because it's inconvenient.
-Bell

If you kill Mastina you freeze her reads and get to use her as a martyr to make the case to Cakes that Pooky is the scum.

If you kill Cakes, I can say to Mastina that the nightkill implicates you and she might readflip back from leaning me to leaning you.

It's a gamble but if Cakes votes me then it's well worth it.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:15 pm

You played really well Bell

I'm rooting for ya

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:16 pm

Honestly would be nice for you to get that 2nd scum win of the year.

A real cherry for the top of the cake

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:18 pm

In post 6772, Milobird wrote:Yes, you could've said that to Mastina and I'm sure she would have been like "yes, that makes sense you're right Pooky"
and then she voted us and won the game for town and there was a fairy and a unicorn in there somewhere too.

I wouldn't say it's certain she would change her mind

I think there is a significant chance she would

That's why you decided to make the kill on her rather than Sir Cakes

You keep claiming there is no way Mastina would ever change her mind if you killed Sir Cakes

Yet you expect Sir Cakes to change his mind now that Mastina is dead.

This is a contradiction in your argument.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:21 pm

In post 6774, Milobird wrote:You remain incapable of a constructing a reasonable argument for why Mastina is dead and not Sircakez, who was cleared. There is a simple lack of clear in depth reasoning that a more focused town Pooky would have had available to make a less generic argument.

-Bell

Mastina had me at a 9% lean over you.

Cakes wanted to kill you over me. He did not present a percentage.

If SirCakes is killed over night, Mastina would have to take into consideration his desire to kill you and the fact that he was the nightkill.

Is that enough to move the needle 9%? I would certainly think so.

Killing Mastina is actually the safer choice for you, you get to use the nightkill choice to push SirCakes into read flipping

You eliminate the chance Mastina re-evaluates.

And predictably you are trying to claim that the nightkill choice is damning when it is not.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:28 pm

Mastina has me at 9% lean over you for scum

Sir Cakes scumreads you and wants to kill you.

We go into night.

Sir Cakes gets shot in the face and dies.

Do you really think at that point Mastina is going to not re-evaluate and maybe change her mind and decide to vote for you?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:30 pm

stop dodging the question and just answer

Mastina scumleans me over you

Cakes scumreads you over me

We go into Night

Cakes dies and flips

Does Mastina Change her mind yes or no?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:32 pm

is there an answer in that paragraph cuz i asked you a yes or no question

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:33 pm

its a 1v1 wtf am i even going to solve for

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:36 pm

ooh i see

so a nightkill on SirCakes is not damning evidence to Mastina that Bell is scum

but a nightkill on Mastina is damning evidence to Cakes that Pooky is scum.

FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:37 pm

In post 6787, Milobird wrote:
In post 6785, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:its a 1v1 wtf am i even going to solve for
Uh our play? So that you can show Sircakez that we're scum?

lol.

He read your iso himself and he said you look like scum

i'm not going to read your iso and point out the same shit he already read and say "yea you right homie"

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:38 pm

In post 6790, Milobird wrote:Yes, because they're not the same and you continue to conflate the two people badly because it's inconvenient and difficult to have a nuanced view on anything when you're scum.

-Bell

Do you think Mastina is less likely than Sir Cakes to change her mind?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:47 pm

solving implies you don't know what the solution is

I am town

I know I am town because that's in my role PM.

I am in a 1v1 with you, the last possible mafia player remaining.

I do not need to pretend to "solve" and figure out who the baddie is.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:50 pm

I think you are confusing "solving" with "casing"

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:52 pm

I let Cakes do it himself because it's better to let people make up their own minds rather than have the ideas put into their head from someone who is self-interested.

Cakes can't trust a solve coming from me because from his point of view it's possible that I am scum giving him a fake narrative and trying to influence him.

Cakes doing it himself gives him the ability to look at your iso objectively without my commentary possibly influencing him.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:53 pm

You're actually making the case for why I'm town here.

Instead of constructing a narrative and trying to influence Cakes, I let him do his own solving and look at things from his own point of view.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:00 pm

solving and casing are different things

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:05 pm

you write a lot of words but they don't actually mean anything

you're basically just repeating "i am town" over and over again

which is kind of impressive because you got to day 10 with this shtick.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:09 pm

20% of your posting today is some kind of logical fallacy

when you get called out on it, you just kind deflect/stop talking that specific line.

20% of your posting is AtE and trying to get Cakes to vote me

60% of your posting is just "I am town"

none of it is very convincing.

I feel like your plan is to just spam Cakes into not caring anymore so he just votes me? I guess that is a decent plan, might even work!

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:10 pm

Mechanically cleared Cakes versus Nobody suspected Mastina

they are literally the same thing.

If cakes died over night do either me or you really suspect Mastina when we were at each other's throats yesterday and we definitely want to kill each other?

Hell no.

You keep bringing up this mechanically cleared thing like it's something that actually MATTERS. It is not, that's clear for literally everyone to see.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:12 pm

In post 6804, Milobird wrote:Pooky is correct that, psychologically speaking a person that does their own work believes more in what their work is saying and people have a tendency to rebuff being told what to do.
This is true. But their work doesn't have to be right.
It suits Pooky that he let you reach the wrong conclusion yourself because you're more likely to believe your own farts than another player who has constructed golden farts that contain the truth for your perusal.

You are conveniently leaving out the fact that I have no way of knowing what conclusion Sir Cakes would reach.

You are pretending that I would somehow know that Sir Cakes would scumread you if he read your ISO himself, which is something I can't know because I'm not a psychic or a time traveler.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:13 pm

In post 6807, Milobird wrote:Yeah, this isn't true. There's a fuck load of nuance, complexity and improvisation in my posts made in real time. Something incredibly difficult for scum me to pull off.

-Bell

yea it's real hard to repeatedly say

"I am town"
"there's no way I'm scum"
"kill pooky"

so much nuance

rofl

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:14 pm

In post 6809, Milobird wrote:
In post 6805, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:20% of your posting today is some kind of logical fallacy

when you get called out on it, you just kind deflect/stop talking that specific line.

20% of your posting is AtE and trying to get Cakes to vote me

60% of your posting is just "I am town"

none of it is very convincing.

I feel like your plan is to just spam Cakes into not caring anymore so he just votes me? I guess that is a decent plan, might even work!
Nah, I responded to your posts and arguments. You saying I haven't doesn't mean it's true especially when the text of me responding to you is...
there for everyone to see?

-Bell

I didn't say you didn't respond.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:15 pm

kill bell

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:15 pm

i am never scum here

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:15 pm

wow so much nuance

i guess im conftown now

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:20 pm

I'm saying I don't know what Sir Cakes would think if he opened up your iso and read it because I'm neither a psychic nor a time traveler.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:30 pm

In post 6817, Milobird wrote:Sircakez was insufferable to us this game and continued to be insufferable and annoying all the way up to and including this day phase.
Your argument that we banked on Mastina changing her mind and so let Sircakez live instead is
W
I
L
D
and explicitly a scum you only argument.
-Bell

Ok what argument would town me be using instead then?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:31 pm

you are saying this argument comes ONLY from scum pooky.

so what would town pooky be doing instead?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:34 pm

In post 6823, Milobird wrote:
In post 6816, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm saying I don't know what Sir Cakes would think if he opened up your iso and read it because I'm neither a psychic nor a time traveler.
It's called predicting behavior based on a statistical model.
How many times has Sircakez called you town.
How many times has sircakez called us scum or said they suspected us?

You need not be a time traveler or psychic. You're using a rhetorical strategy to make the claim seem absurd, when the claim you're making is actually absurd. That you would need to be either a time traveler or a psychic to know that when you drop a stone on planet earth it falls.

-Bell

Imagine thinking Cakes scumreading you is the same thing as the law of gravity

w i l d

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:04 pm

In post 6826, Milobird wrote:Town Pooky would have been solving and trying to convince Sircakez that we're scum with a case. Town Pooky can put in effort to solve when he wants to.
How you would approach a Mastina kill is near unfathomable to me, I would assume you would just be in shock wondering why the fuck we misplayed so bad. Probably would have dunked on us a lot for fucking up.

-Bell

I mean it’s literally working so why would I be dunking on you for it lol

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:05 pm

In post 6827, Milobird wrote:
In post 6824, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 6823, Milobird wrote:
In post 6816, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm saying I don't know what Sir Cakes would think if he opened up your iso and read it because I'm neither a psychic nor a time traveler.
It's called predicting behavior based on a statistical model.
How many times has Sircakez called you town.
How many times has sircakez called us scum or said they suspected us?

You need not be a time traveler or psychic. You're using a rhetorical strategy to make the claim seem absurd, when the claim you're making is actually absurd. That you would need to be either a time traveler or a psychic to know that when you drop a stone on planet earth it falls.

-Bell

Imagine thinking Cakes scumreading you is the same thing as the law of gravity

w i l d
Another example of Pooky focusing on the wrong thing to avoid talking about the harder thing.

-Bell

Just pointing out how absurd your point is

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:05 pm

In post 6827, Milobird wrote:
In post 6824, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 6823, Milobird wrote:
In post 6816, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm saying I don't know what Sir Cakes would think if he opened up your iso and read it because I'm neither a psychic nor a time traveler.
It's called predicting behavior based on a statistical model.
How many times has Sircakez called you town.
How many times has sircakez called us scum or said they suspected us?

You need not be a time traveler or psychic. You're using a rhetorical strategy to make the claim seem absurd, when the claim you're making is actually absurd. That you would need to be either a time traveler or a psychic to know that when you drop a stone on planet earth it falls.

-Bell

Imagine thinking Cakes scumreading you is the same thing as the law of gravity

w i l d
Another example of Pooky focusing on the wrong thing to avoid talking about the harder thing.

-Bell

Just pointing out how absurd your point is

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:23 am

In post 6833, Milobird wrote:Lol, there is literally no townie reason to post that in your PT.

-Bell

I asked Cakes a question in the PT because you are spamming machine and I didn't want him to miss it

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:53 pm

yea it says I haven't really cared much cuz I'm town

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:13 pm

I mean I just said it

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:14 pm

yea I'd have the jitters in elo if i had to pick between 2 people to vote

I kind of don't so why would I have jitters?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:18 pm

yes when I didn't know which person to vote for....

I got the jitters...

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:19 pm

and look the nightkill that game was a wifom one!!!!!!!!!

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:22 pm

literally exact same scenario!!!

Caster(Town) wants to kill Assassin(Town)
Lancer(Town) wants to kill Alter Ego(Mafia)

deadlocked 2-2

go to night

Alter Ego shoots Caster.

Lancer doesn't change her mind, votes out Alter Ego, Town Win.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:24 pm

In post 6845, Milobird wrote:You would care if you were town. I have no idea why you're insisting you don't.

-Bell

It was stressful for me in FGOII because I had to vote for either Assassin or Alter Ego and I wasn't sure which one of them was town.

In this game I don't have any stress because I know for a fact you are the last scum, so I don't really have a decision to make here - hence there's literally 0 stress for me.

It's up to Cakes to make the right decision.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:27 pm

You don't really seem to understand how responsibility works Bell,

I am not responsible for town winning or losing this game.

Sir Cakes is...

He is the one with the jitters because he is the one who has to make the decision.

You're feeling the stress because you're the last mafia and all of the scum team's hopes rest on you.

They have for quite a while, you've had to survive for a long time and you can kind of see the exit now that you are so very close.

You're projecting that mindset onto me because you think I share the same point of view as you only flipped.

However you're quite wrong, it's not me who is responsible for my team's victory, that duty is on Sir Cakes.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:30 pm

You are trying to re-create a town mentality and saying I'm mafia because I don't have it.

However you slipped because you completely forgot what a town player actually feels in elo when locked into a 1v1 with scum

There isn't any jitters.

There isn't any nervousness.

I don't actually control my destiny - Sir Cakes does.

All those jitters/nervousness that you feel?

That's because you're mafia and you've been walking on a tightrope over a chasm for so long that you don't even know where home is.

You have all this anxiety because you are so close to the other side but one mis-step and you fall right over.

I don't carry any of that. If I die here, I share the loss with Sir Cakes but it's not on me. It's on him for making the wrong choice.

If you die here, that loss is on you because you are the last scum, it's your job to trick him and convince him to hammer me.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:31 pm

You're cracking all over the place Bell.

Better dip out before you scum slip even more

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:32 pm

See now you're trying to adopt my mindset and claim you wouldn't give a shit....

Just last page you were saying town should have jitters...

Funny how that works enh?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:38 pm

You keep claiming you won't care

but here you are posting!

curious how that works

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:47 pm

You keep trying to recreate a town mindset and failing.

winkyface

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:01 pm

its cute that you keep clinging onto that nightkill for dear life

pretty covenient enh ? :3

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:11 pm

The only thing that's real in either of your posts is the handle of that hammer.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:21 pm

Bell literally putting the shit in shitposting

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:41 pm

you're just being disgusting now

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:56 pm

@Bell/Notty

I really don't actually care that much if you guys get the win cuz this is just a game to me.

You both played really well, and I am happy to lose to you guys any day of the week.

Can we not go into insults about shit eating or ass kissing? That's just kind of gross and makes me not want to play anymore.

Love you both no matter what.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:11 pm

Good night Bell

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:11 am

let's talk after your final

good luck!

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:20 pm

I'm going to start casing why Milo is certified scumbag

then I'm going to case why I'm the towniest townie who ever towned

and if at some point you want me to stop just tell me.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:25 pm

I'm going to start with Day 10 because it just happened so it's easy for me to remember what went on.

This is so incredibly fake it wouldn't make it into a C-rated movie produced for Netflix.

Bell is trying to express that he doesn't know if SC is town, despite SC being confirmed town by a claimed investigative.

This is just nonsense. No townie actually believes this at this point in the game.

You also know it's fake because just last page he said the following:

How does Bell go from "knowing" its 1000% Pooky who murdered Mastina to Oh it might be SirCakes who did it cuz Firebringer decided to gamethrow?

Like that's not an actual thought process that can happen.

This is just fake bullshit Bell is throwing out there to make it look like he doesn't know SC is town.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:26 pm

btw these posts are like 3 minutes apart so it literally makes no sense for Bell to go from A to B like that

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:30 pm

This is just Bell negging Sir Cakes and loudly proclaiming that if SC doesn't vote for Pooky he is a "bad player"

He claims SC is "invalidating key information" when he doesn't consider things.

However is Bell actually considering Sir Cakes Points?

Nope! He just handwaves it all and says "you're a bad player for not listening to me".

SC has pointed out that Bell's ISO screams that he's the scum here and instead of trying to talk with Sir Cakes about what SC finds incriminating, all Bell can do is hand wave it and neg cakes and proclaim that he is not reading or processing information....

This is a classic scum defense technique where information that hurts your position is just treated with hand-waving, insults and disdain.

Instead of actually addressing the issues SC has with his ISO, he just claims SC is being silly and ridiculous..

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:34 pm

you literally said 3 minutes b4 ur paranoia post on SC that you were 10000% sure its pooky its just pooky I told you all its pooky

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:35 pm

you can't address any of SirCakes accusations because you know you're guilty and don't have an actual explanation.

So all you can do is neg, handwave and insult his playing ability to try to make him feel bad for suspecting you.

Every single thing you have accused me of today I have been happy to respond to and show to be complete garbage because I'm town and I have nothing to hide.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:39 pm

^

See above

Bell discrediting Titus and saying she sucks for not thinking it's Pooky.

There is a pattern here where Bell just insults anyone who thinks it could be him as either "scum" or "a bad player"

He can't actually defend his own play on its merits because he knows he's scum so he has to resort to insulting people who think he's scum or OMGUSing.

Since he can't OMGUS SC or Titus as they r conftown, he just claims they suck instead.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:47 pm

As you can see all Bell can do in response to any accusations against him is begin a flame war where he calls whoever is pushing him either a bad player or a scumbag.

He can't actually address your post except by hand waving and calling you bad because he is a scumbag.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:48 pm

I'm reading your posts

you literally don't do any solving

All you do is flame people who think you're scum by hand waving their accusations and calling them shitty players and saying they suck.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:51 pm

You're calling Sir Cakes bad because you literally can't address any of his points against you

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:53 pm

All you can do is hand wave and pretend he didn't actually read your ISO and then insult his playing ability.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:53 pm

In post 6909, Milobird wrote:Anyway, Pooky's argument is that I should die because I'm rude to people. This is not an actual case. It's meant to avoid real analysis of my play and choices in the game and go for an emotional argument.

This is another reason why Pooky is scum this game.

I hope this has been educational in learning about how Town Bell sees the world.

-Bell

This is strawmanning my argument

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:55 pm

In post 6913, Milobird wrote:
In post 6911, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:All you can do is hand wave and pretend he didn't actually read your ISO and then insult his playing ability.
Actually, I'm accusing you of never reading my iso because you're scum and ain't nobody got time for that.

-Bell

I was literally reading your ISO and casing you and then you started spamming at me yet again

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:55 pm

In post 6914, Milobird wrote:
In post 6912, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 6909, Milobird wrote:Anyway, Pooky's argument is that I should die because I'm rude to people. This is not an actual case. It's meant to avoid real analysis of my play and choices in the game and go for an emotional argument.

This is another reason why Pooky is scum this game.

I hope this has been educational in learning about how Town Bell sees the world.

-Bell
This is strawmanning my argument
I prefer to think of it as reducing your argument to the core conceit and strategy behind it.
It's a smear campaign and not a particularly good one.

-Bell

If what I'm saying is shitty then why are you spamming so much to drown me out?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:57 pm

no all you're doing is spamming the shit out of the thread because you are worried I will case you

when you case me I let you write whatever the fuck you want cuz I know it's all fake bullshit anyway

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:06 pm

@Cakes

Bell said that I can't solve because I'm scum.

Now that I'm literally solving in real time and posting my thoughts to the thread in Real Time, he refuses to let me solve and is instead actively spamming to disrupt my solving.

Does that sound like a town mindset?

If Bell is actually town and thinks I'm scum and unable to solve, why would he not just let me "solve" and then show that my solve is garbage?

Instead he has decided he needs to spam me off the thread in order to prevent me from showing you he's scum.

Why would Bell believe this if he's innocent and thinks I'm scum and unable to solve?

He knows he's fucking pissed me off enough that I'm actually going to go to hell and back to show you that he's scum so now he's just desperately spamming the entire kitchen sink at the thread to try to make it unreadable.

It's desperate scum bullshit.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:09 pm

OH YEA

LETS LOOK AT YOUR COMPLETED PUZZLES FROM TODAY

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:13 pm

In post 6726, Milobird wrote:@cakez ask Pooky his scum win rate including alts

Exhibit 1: Pooky's scum win rate.

(response:)

My win rate has literally nothing to do with whether I am scum in a specific game. This is just basic fucking probability that you learn in like high school.

Also I don't know my own win rate but let's go with the supposition that it's amazingly high or whatever.

Why the fuck would I, someone who doesn't enjoy bussing and notoriously doesn't bus because he loves killing townies decide to CHANGE my highly successful scum game to begin bussing my team by shooting them in the face?!?!

Does that make sense to ANYONE?

If Cakes is such a fucking idiot and completely pocketed by me, why couldn't I just tell him to shoot somebody else!?!

Like you can't have it both ways.

You can't be like FEAR POOKY CUZ HE IS GODLIKE SCUM SNOWING CAKES IN THE PT and ALSO POOKY HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO SHOOT BAD GUYS!

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:14 pm

In post 6930, Milobird wrote:Pooky is lazy as scum, scum.

I literally have more posts than any player in the entire fucking game shut up(I'm dividing your posts by 2 cuz you're a hydra)

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:15 pm

In post 6930, Milobird wrote:Ralts avoided his buddies scum.

what the fuck is this point.

Ralts voted for Gypyx-scum.

Ralts was replaced.

I replaced him.

I shot Gypyx-scum.

This is just a flat out lie by Bell here.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:16 pm

In post 6930, Milobird wrote:Can't solve scum.

another lie.

I was solving fine until he started spamming the shit out of the thread to drown me out

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:18 pm

In post 6934, Milobird wrote:Lol, he was third on the wagon a classic scum post.

He sure was replaced, which is another reason you're more likely to be scum!

-Bell

You can look at the first page

there are 9 names crossed out

9 replace-outs

not a single one of them are scum.

If you listened to Bell's bullshit line about replacements being more likely to be scum and killed all the replacements you would've gotten exactly 0 scum deaths.

This is a giant ball of garbage

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:22 pm

In post 6937, Milobird wrote:
In post 6932, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 6930, Milobird wrote:Pooky is lazy as scum, scum.
I literally have more posts than any player in the entire fucking game shut up(I'm dividing your posts by 2 cuz you're a hydra)
I'm talking about earlier in the game. You ere just kind of contentless. We had opinions and we could be judged for them. You didn't, really.
You're able to be more fluid as town. For example anon-shapes/colors game that just ended you were solving throughout the game and making original contributions on the regular.
Here, not so much.
-Bell

Your opinions this entire game are as follows:

(a) I want to eliminate player ___ , OOPS THAT PLAYER WAS TOWN I GUESS I SUCK!
(b) I am obvtown, if you think I'm scum you're a shitty player.
(c) How dare you fucking suspect me you must be scum! DIE! (they're never scum)

The only thing you've actually done is omgus and spam and present shit logic and try to pretend its foie gras

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:25 pm

In post 6940, Milobird wrote:
In post 6935, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 6930, Milobird wrote:Can't solve scum.
another lie.

I was solving fine until he started spamming the shit out of the thread to drown me out
Yes, you were just warming yourself up the last 9 days and on the 10th day you were gunna solve the game, but alas.
I disrupted you and now we have to start over.

-Bell

yea kind of sad how desperately you need to spam the thread

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:27 pm

SC just read milo's fucking posts

all of them are just desperation spam over and over again

He can't address a single one of your suspicions except to hurl ad hom at you because he's got no answers.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:28 pm

it's unfortunate all you can do is repeat "i'm obvtown" like a broken record cuz you can't answer a single fucking thing

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:31 pm

see its just ad hom and patronizing bullshit
all bell can do

just spam the thread full of crap

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:39 pm

your answer to SC was literally "you're bad"

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:40 pm

it's hard to take you seriously when all you can do is spam and cry

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:44 pm

your response to any accusation against you is always:

"I'm town"

or

"You're a fucking moron"

or

"You're scum"

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:50 pm

That's actually your scum game

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:51 pm

When your town you can actually answer questions at the end instead of resorting to ad-hom

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:52 pm

This is like a shitty imitation of your town game

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:55 pm

Do you actually enjoy being an asshole?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:56 pm

you say titus sucks

you mock me for not being good enough

you call cakes a moron who is pocketed.

like you know this is a game right?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:57 pm

do you actually think you will get townread for being more of a dick?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:58 pm

like maybe you forgot you spent the start of today trying to fearmonger about how good my winrate as scum is and now you've decided it's time to troll pooky about "not being good enough"

like what r u even doing at this point?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:00 pm

you know I'm not enjoying this conversation

I like you as a person bell
I like notty as a person

I don't want to end up disliking you as a result of a stupid fucking internet game so I'm going to just walk away here.

Have a good night dude.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:56 am

oh yea i did that

do you really think i rep in, shoot my backup godfather in the face

and then try to push my real godfather on the next day

im not a fucking game throwing clown dude

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:05 am

i only have like 20 years of games where I don't bus

it's not a complete history or anything

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:05 am

I mean you are kind of playing like trash since all you can do is repeat "i'm not scum kill pooky" on a loop like a broken clock

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:07 am

In post 6994, Milobird wrote:Like cakez dude you’ve literally been paranoid of us since day one why would we EVER bring you here

because you need to misflip Pooky to win the game

and you need someone at the end to get paranoid of Pooky and vote for him.

and who better to get paranoid of Pooky than Pooky's vig buddy who's in a PT with him?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:08 am

In post 6999, SirCakez wrote:
In post 5588, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:its not milobird

bell way out of scum range

koba is the last possible baddie
FUCK ME MAN

I was wrong about one read dude cmon

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:09 am

and like why the fuck would I even say Bell is out of scum range and townbin him if I need to fucking miselim him on the last day thats not how you play scum

look at how bell kept all his options open on Mastina despite all the evidence, you need multiple pathways to win when you r last scum you can't afford to throw out miselim targets.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:11 am

This is not bell!town at endgame,

here's what bell!town in a large theme endgame looks like:

viewtopic.php?t=84709&f=56&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select%5B%5D=34613&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_sort=Go

There's 7 pages but if you just skim some of the last page you can see he looks completely fucking different from the spam machine that's hard at work here

It's not even the same person he's just scum here.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:12 am

In post 7005, SirCakez wrote:
In post 5778, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I've literally never misread bell in my life

there's no way he suddenly went from "unable to post as scum" to "top posting god scum bell"

it's literally just koba

yea that's also another thing I don't fucking say if I'm scum cuz I need to mis-elim the dude later

I don't close POE to 1 when I need 2 miselims thats so dumb lol

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:16 am

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

fixed link

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:26 am

if you read the entire game he kills like 4/5 of the scum team and his posts are actually about scum hunting and not waxing poetic about how he's obvtown

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:06 am

In post 7017, Milobird wrote:Also, a reminder that Pooky is extremely combative. I am easily baited. If left alone I solve. If attacked I defend.

I literally left you alone to let you "solve" and you refused to give me the same courtesy so blaming me for the combat in this thread is kind of a flat out lie

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:10 am

In post 7016, Milobird wrote:Selective meta selection plenty of lazy bell games: see: xenoblade 2. Warehouse mafia which is more in line with my play here.

Neither of these large theme games got anywhere close elo, it was a flat out town stomp.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:12 am

he's literally trying to claim up is down by saying the wronger he is the more town he is because he knows he can't actually defend his actions this game.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:14 am

He is not town here

This is not how town bell plays ELO.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:15 am

This is a bad imitation of Town!Bell that's been out in the sun too long.

It's turned him into a broken clock that can only repeat "I'm town" and "you suck if you don't see I'm town" over and over again

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:49 am

Except I actually played that game so I know what the fuck I'm talking about and have the receipts to back it up.

I was given the death scroll by Fidget and I had to make a choice between Bell/MC/Noraa for the last person to die.

Hectic's post giving me the scroll

I immediately told Bell that I was going to scroll him and end the game

Look at the way Bell is reacting to me as town in ELO.

compare it to the way he's treating you.

No insults, no calling me bad, just him trying to justify himself as town to me by his PLAY. There's no bluster and crying about how he's obvtown 5000 times.

The reaction difference is night and day different.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:54 am

ok he had one line that could be interpreted as an insult but at least it was witty

but the vast majority of his response to me is solvey, rational and talking about how his play in the game exonerated him and trying to walk me through his POV in a reasoned way.

He doesn't do his "I'm obvtown and you're fucking stupid if you can't see it" on repeat routine like he does here in this game.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:59 am

Thanks for proving my point that he is a mature and well mannered player when he's town and talking to me as I hold the power of life and death over him.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:03 am

More Desperation AtE and trying to make you scared of hammering them.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:07 am

I'm gonna go back to work

have fun doing more AtE buddy

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:24 am

they basically are waving a white flag and want to give up but they don't want to be called game throwers by self voting

just end it dude it's over

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:22 am

you never really had a chance to kill me so its not like you had a choice about bringing me to elo

it was either me or mastina and im pretty sure you lose a 1v1 to mastina

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:36 am

you need to flip either me or mastina to win the game

thats not a choice.

you literally cannot nightkill us both

you chose to try to flip me. probably a good decision because Mastina is much harder to flip.

now you need to decide who to bring to endgame to vote for me.

The easiest person to make paranoid of me is the person in the hood with me.

Which is the argument you have been making the entire game

because you knew you would need sc to flip on me to win.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:40 am

mastina was leaning towards voting for you on day 8

she changed to a lean on me on day 9

if you shoot SC who wants to kill you, what does mastina think on day 10?

you keep claiming the decision is simple when it is not

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:55 am

you are fighting with SC to try to get him to townread you

when you see your AtE isn't working, you drop the act and are now willing to solve for him if he wants

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:12 am

7083 7084

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:12 am

now you r back to ateing

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:32 pm

In post 7091, Milobird wrote:K heading home. Post more when I get there.

Er, an absence of two posts of not insulting sir cakez is not “dropping it” I’ve probably deleted like 30 or 40 snap comments that were rude and condescending toward them both. Mostly in line with “what are you even reading, what the actual fuck etc). I’m not fishing for credit at my barely managed self control. I know it’s bad that I have those snap emotional responses when things don’t go the way I want them to. I can be pretty critical and mean to people if I let my guard down.

-Bell

I do like this nicer Bell

Thanks for making the effort to be civilized

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:36 pm

In post 7095, Milobird wrote:Look at death curse and look at the misrepresentations pooky is making here. Look at the arguments he’s making.

You can read Death Curse and compare the play, it's pretty obvious this Bell looks nothing like Death Curse Endgame Town Bell.

Look at the way Bell responds to me after I tell him I'm scrolling him vs how he's responding to you when you say you are leaning towards voting for him.

The difference is like day and night, rather than actual go into solving he's just flaming and spamming and AtEing. In Death Curse he immediately begins solving to show me he's not scum.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:11 pm

take a look at the death curse endgame

you won't see a single post like 7100

his logic in that game is concise, easy to follow and well reasoned

here he's literally just hurling a kitchen sink at the wall and hoping something sticks

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:15 pm

Actually you responded to me saying I was going to scroll you by pointing out townie things you had done, like voting off a bunch of bad guys.

Here you are just puffing up your chest and flaming cakes for daring to think you could possibly be scum.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:18 pm

I play differently when I am on a female alt than my main account.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:21 pm

yes you are imitating that part of your town game by puffing up

however if cakes reads your death curse iso, when puffing up doesnt work you can actually show how you did townie things and convince your accuser that he is wrong

you treat me pretty respectfully and you are eager to show me I am wrong.

Here all you did was flame cakes for days on end and now when i call you out on it you are adjusting and claiming to want to be a good little solver for him.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:22 pm

In post 7107, Milobird wrote:
In post 7105, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I play differently when I am on a female alt than my main account.
Cabd directly said in blood stained that you were scum because you weren't doing anything.
You said you were trying to get eliminated there, but that scum tell of his still held true for the most part.

-Bell

I do things when I am scum

I have goals and objectives.

I didn't do anything in bloodstained because my goal was to die.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:24 pm

your idea of consistency is loudly proclaiming you are town over and over and saying that anyone who doubted your towniness is a moron.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:29 pm

it's not very hard to keep posting the following over and over again:

(1) I'm town
(2) Anyone who thinks I'm scum is a moron
(3) Pooky is scum kill him

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:31 pm

It's trivial to fake

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:32 pm

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:33 pm

Writing I'm town over and over again is not difficult to do.

Insulting people when they say you are mafia is not difficult to do.

AtE is not difficult to do.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:35 pm

In post 7121, Milobird wrote:I couldn't even remember voting you.

It also demonstrates a lot of it that I waffle a lot and hesitate and lot and go over the same stuff a lot. You kept arguing that my hesitation and need to check both of you was fake.
But if it was I was doing it long before that was a strategy that I planned for elo.
You argued that it didn't make sense and wasn't consistent with my earlier play, but earlier posts showed a lot of me going back and forth.

-bell

it's fake for you to go

"aha! It's Pooky! He Killed Mastina!"

"VOTE POOKY"

and then "Gee I sure hope it wasn't SirCakes!"

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:35 pm

That's not actually a town mindset

It's a scumbag faking lack of knowledge

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:39 pm

Mastina already did that

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:39 pm

In post 5797, mastina wrote:
In post 5778, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:there's no way he suddenly went from "unable to post as scum" to "top posting god scum bell"
Bell has ~62/200 posts on page one of their iso (altho admittedly, possibly more if some of the unsigned ones were him but even counting those it'd be in the ~75/200 range).

On page two, it's ~71/200.
Bringing the total up to ~136/400 (possibly ~146/400).

On page three, it's ~63/200.
Bringing the total up to ~199/600 (possibly 209/600).

On page four, it's ~35/82.

Bringing the total up to 234/682. (Possibly 244/682.)

You
say
Bell is unable to post as scum, but the last time I saw Bell as scum, the amount is actually comparable to here.

Bell had 374 posts as scum in Pooky v Flavor Leaf.
You DO remember that that was Bell as SCUM, right?
Bell had 374 posts in Pooky v Flavor Leaf, in spite of being eliminated day phases earlier.

Bell has
less posts in this game
than he did in a game
he was eliminated in half the game earlier
as scum.

The majority of the posts from Milobird have been notscience.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:41 pm

Yea I really should've just listened to her here

I'm kind of a moron sometimes >.>

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:41 pm

Do you actually think you can get townread for spamming the thread full of garbage posts that have literally no content?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:44 pm

You're basically repeating

"I'm town"
"Pooky's Scum"
"Cakes is bad player why can't he see i'm town"
"Kill Pooky"

over and over again on a loop.

Your accusations against me today are pretty much a joke.

and now the logical conclusion to your shit-spamming campaign:

Townread me for spamming guys!!!!

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:47 pm

In post 7134, Milobird wrote:
In post 7131, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Yea I really should've just listened to her here

I'm kind of a moron sometimes >.>
See, this is one of those performative drops. That scum do. It's an intentional town tell that works with that perspective. But it's short and not really part of their regular posting style.

-Bell

See this is bell quoting one of my posts and saying its from a scum player.

HE does this to a lot of my posts.

Its a really good technique that helps inflate his post count so he can say he's town for having more posts.

Which is hilarious because if you actually LOOK at his posts in Death Curse and compare them to the utter drivel he is posting here it should take you maybe 10 minutes to realize he's got no substance here at all.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:49 pm

Like it's super obvious what Bell's doing.

He has shit for content, nothing for substance and he's just resorting to an all out spam campaign.

His goal is to wear down your will enough that you knuckle under and vote for me.

It starts with posts flaming you for being "bad" for daring to consider that he could be scum.

Now he's gradually getting nicer and nicer to you to feel better about him.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:53 pm

In post 7139, Milobird wrote:Pooky has not solved a single iota this game.

this is rich coming from the guy who spammed me out of the thread the last time I tried to solve

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:53 pm

In post 7140, Milobird wrote:His originality vote was likewise devoid of reasoning.

-Bell

I said he didn't post so we should kill him

he fit the profile of a demotivated scumbag who didnt want to play anymore

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:56 pm

How are you town by play?

What part of your play should SC actually townread you for?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:58 pm

In post 7143, Milobird wrote:I am town by play because every player acknowledged it and we were never eliminated during the day phase for that reason.

The only thing you did was puff up your chest and flame people as "morons" whenever they dared to suspect you

Your entire play this game is centered around keeping yourself alive

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:04 pm

Titus wants to kill Milo over me.

She is dead, shot at night and unable to vote.

Mathblade wanted to kill Milo over me.

He is dead, shot at night and unable to vote.

What Milo is talking about is a total farce.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:05 pm

In post 7147, Milobird wrote:
In post 7144, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:How are you town by play?

What part of your play should SC actually townread you for?
All of it. Every post I make comes from town.
Every misread I had.
Every correct read I had.
Every case I made, right and wrong.
Every interaction and slap fight.
Every quote. Everytime I chose to post.
When I chose to post.
Where I chose to post.
Who I chose to talk to at any particular time.
How I chose to talk to anyone at any particular time.

-Bell

As you can see, Bell really has nothing except to loudly proclaim "I'm town"

He doesn't have any substance at all.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:06 pm

In post 7150, Milobird wrote:Um. Aren't those both confirmed players which you noted yourself had to be shot.
You've been arguing that this entire time.

-Bell

You're the one who is claiming people got shot because they wanted to kill me

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:06 pm

I am refuting your bullshit argument by pointing out the last 2 nightkills before Mastina were of people who wanted to kill YOU

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:10 pm

see when I call out your fake bullshit with actual facts all you can do is go back to AtE

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:13 pm

oh so when Titus/Mathblade who scumread you get shot its NOT alignment indicative

but when Mastina who has me at scumlean gets shot ITS SOLID PROOF THAT POOKY IS MAFIA.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:14 pm

No actually it's pretty fucking clear who's trying to have it both ways here

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:15 pm

In post 7158, Milobird wrote:
In post 7141, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 7139, Milobird wrote:Pooky has not solved a single iota this game.
this is rich coming from the guy who spammed me out of the thread the last time I tried to solve

On day 10 bro.

-Bell

You claimed I can't solve as scum.

I started solving

You immediately spammed me out of the thread with random crap.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE A BIT WORRIED I MIGHT SOLVE

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:19 pm

In post 7162, Milobird wrote:
In post 7157, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:oh so when Titus/Mathblade who scumread you get shot its NOT alignment indicative

but when Mastina who has me at scumlean gets shot ITS SOLID PROOF THAT POOKY IS MAFIA.
2 of those have been mechanically cleared. One of those is not.
If we were scum this is actually exactly the argument we would be making the opposite of.
There's a clear area of denial "Cakez was cleared, this means nothing that he died, keep going Mastina" repeat ad nauseum. But the same isn't true for Mastina. In a world that does not have exactly Sircakez in it, that night kill would've been a misplay (by you)

-Bell

Mech Clear doesn't actually matter since it was always ending in a you vs me 1v1.

Nobody was going to vote for Mastina

You keep pretending like the confirmation matters when it really doesn't mean a thing

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:26 pm

Mastina literally changed her mind from d8 -> d9

there's no reason she wouldn't change her mind again seeing SC get shot while he wants to kill you

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:27 pm

Your entire argument is on a faulty premise.

You are telling SC that Mastina getting shot is solid evidence Pooky is mafia.

While also proclaiming that Mastina would not see SC getting shot as evidence that Milo is mafia.

You can't have it both ways.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:29 pm

I mean it didn't really matter who you brought to Elo.

Titus wanted to kill you.

Mathblade wanted to kill you.

Mastina likely changes her mind seeing Cakes dead.

You went with Cakes because you knew you could point at him and say that he's "pocketed by me in the PT" and claim he's only alive because he's pocketed

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:30 pm

In post 7170, Milobird wrote:But see, that's not what you said. You said she doesn't change her mind. And you said it just after she just changed her mind in front of you.

I'm fairly sure what she actually does is more important than what I say she will do.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:32 pm

In post 7170, Milobird wrote:What am I supposed to do with this guy.
Why am I losing to scum Pooky.
Why.

Is this a performative drop? You keep doing that

winkyface

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:34 pm

In post 7173, Milobird wrote:
In post 7169, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Your entire argument is on a faulty premise.

You are telling SC that Mastina getting shot is solid evidence Pooky is mafia.

While also proclaiming that Mastina would not see SC getting shot as evidence that Milo is mafia.

You can't have it both ways.
Um. One of those is a direct correlation and the other is not.

-Bell

One is what happened

the other is what you are saying

would

have happened if the night-kill was on SC instead of Mastina.

There is a conflict between your projected events that you are trying to hand-wave because it is inconvenient to your story.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:36 pm

In post 7175, Milobird wrote:Yes. Which is why she probably would have killed you because that's what she said she was going to do.

-Bell

So you're claiming the NKA is ironclad analysis that should be taken as gospel truth.

While swearing up and down that Mastina would disregard NKA and just kill me.

Someone she had only at scumlean without even considering the nightkill.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:37 pm

In post 7177, Milobird wrote:But Bell, Pooky says.

It's not what Mastina said what she was going to do.
"it's what she actually does that matters!"
and what she "actually would have done"
is reversed her read and voted you, which is why you killed her because while Sircakez *says* he is going to kill you, he will actually kill me which is why you killed Mastina!

I hate this.
I hate this so much.

-Bell

She never voted me.

She expressed a 9% scumlean on me.

Something that is easily shaken by a nightkill on SC so you couldn't risk killing SC directly.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:39 pm

I don't actually need to bring SC to Elo as scum.

It actually makes me kind of look bad to do it.

If I am mafia I probably bring either Mathblade or Titus as they are on my side and want you dead and don't have the inconvenient issue of being in a neighborhood with me.

The reason SC is here is because you know you can play up the paranoia issue about him being in a hood with me and claim that I'm pocketing him in the hood.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:40 pm

In post 7180, Milobird wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought most of us thought Sircakez was going to die because he was the cleared one.

-Bell

Being cleared is literally irrelevant since me/you were always going to vote each other today.

You continue to bring up Cakes/Mastina in terms of mech-clearance as if it matters

It does not.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:43 pm

In post 7182, Milobird wrote:P. Sure Sircakez had a greater than 9% scum lean on us.

-Bell

Yes that's why you didn't really have a good choice with the nightkill.

Shoot Cakes and hope Mastina doesn't move 9%+

or shoot Mastina and hope Cakes flips.

You chose to cash in all the paranoia you've been shoveling into Cakes head about how he's in a hood with me and pocketed and decided Mastina would probably not be on your side.

We can ask her in the postgame if its a correct decision by you on the shot choice. I think you probably have better odds with SC than Mastina.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:43 pm

In post 7184, Milobird wrote:It's just a feeling of some kind. It's possible that it was maybe an 8% chance, maybe even a 6% chance when you think about it.
I mean Sircakez was pretty on the fence about us.

-Bell

These things are hard to quantify.

It's certainly a close call for you.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:45 pm

In post 7187, Milobird wrote:
In post 7183, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 7180, Milobird wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought most of us thought Sircakez was going to die because he was the cleared one.

-Bell

Being cleared is literally irrelevant since me/you were always going to vote each other today.

You continue to bring up Cakes/Mastina in terms of mech-clearance as if it matters

It does not.
Does anyone honestly believe Pooky has been playing mafia for 20 years and doesn't know how math works yet.

-Bell

Not a single person living was going to vote for Mastina

You keep trying to make it a thing but it's just not.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:46 pm

I'm going to head to bed.

Have fun spamming the thread full of random nonsense.

Good night Bell.