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Post #6389 (isolation #600 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:35 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:35 pm
VOTE: Shiro
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Post #6402 (isolation #601 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:59 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:59 pm
I mean is there literally any pairing here that I would be able to push without somebody being disappointed in me
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Post #6404 (isolation #602 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:04 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:04 pm
ok
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Post #6407 (isolation #603 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:08 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:08 pm
I hope you realize why your pairing has to die first if there is any chance that your slot can have scum in it
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Post #6408 (isolation #604 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:09 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:09 pm
your pairing can have scum in it*
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Post #6411 (isolation #605 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:11 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:11 pm
I see you've been reading my posts
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Post #6414 (isolation #606 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:16 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:16 pm
I can't take the risk when I can see a scenario where Shiro is scum
the game is more winnable from this state if you're TvT than if we go the other direction and Shiro is scum
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Post #6415 (isolation #607 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:16 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:16 pm
that's the short and simple of it
it's strategically the correct choice to flip your pairing first
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Post #6417 (isolation #608 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:20 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:20 pm
I see more than you think I do
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Post #6423 (isolation #609 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:24 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:24 pm
In post 6422 , Something_Smart wrote: In post 6418 , Harley Quinn wrote: as soon as me/Shiro flip T-T, everyone is going to ignore this and hand gl/RH9 the victory.
I don't plan to do this if that happens, for the record. And I don't think Alyssa does either.
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Post #6425 (isolation #610 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:26 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:26 pm
and if Datisi/GL are TvT, then Shiro endgaming would be entirely on your head
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Post #6428 (isolation #611 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:29 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:29 pm
that was under the perception that my view of what was going on was right
I then decided to check from another view and it suddenly made sense that you were scum from that view
so my approach changed
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Post #6431 (isolation #612 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:31 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:31 pm
Shiro do you at least understand why I want your pairing removed first
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Post #6436 (isolation #613 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:35 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:35 pm
if both pairings are TvT, then we're in a lot of trouble I think
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Post #6437 (isolation #614 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:35 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:35 pm
otherwise I think we don't lose
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Post #6441 (isolation #615 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:41 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:41 pm
thanks HQ
I'll take that into consideration
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Post #6447 (isolation #616 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:45 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:45 pm
this certainly is a mafia game alright
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Post #6452 (isolation #617 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:48 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:48 pm
I'm legit starting to think it's like Datisi/Rh9 lmao
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Post #6456 (isolation #618 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:53 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:53 pm
if
your
pairing
is
TvT
then
GL
never
endgames
ever
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Post #6463 (isolation #619 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:57 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:57 pm
I'm game for that tbh
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Post #6471 (isolation #620 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:00 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:00 pm
you lost your faith in players for agreeing to a leave order that ensures town wins by your measure
O K A Y
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Post #6476 (isolation #621 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:02 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:02 pm
that's some next level shit right there ngl
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Post #6479 (isolation #622 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:03 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:03 pm
if we get through these 4 flips and only Datisi flips scum, I don't want to leave immediately
at
that
point I'd like to slow down a bit and take our time to make sure we get it right
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Post #6480 (isolation #623 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:04 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:04 pm
same if only Shiro flips scum, but I kinda doubt that'll happen now
I'm fine with leaving immediately if only GL flips scum
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Post #6484 (isolation #624 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:06 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:06 pm
if Taly just wants me to leave anyways I will
but that's the one scenario I haven't thought through myself yet
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Post #6488 (isolation #625 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:07 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:07 pm
and obviously if only Shiro is scum, then I do think Galron is a viable partner for her as I've stated earlier
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Post #6493 (isolation #626 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:08 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:08 pm
that game was a really funny trainwreck to watch as a scumbutt
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Post #6495 (isolation #627 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:09 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:09 pm
the vig n1ing the cop was the funniest part
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Post #6498 (isolation #628 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:10 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:10 pm
the fuck are you talking about
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Post #6502 (isolation #629 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:17 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:17 pm
VOTE: Datisi/GL
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Post #6505 (isolation #630 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:20 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:20 pm
generally the way you can tell whether I'm town or scum is whether I'm able to do everything in my range at once
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Post #6507 (isolation #631 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:22 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:22 pm
idk what else to really tell you tbh
I'd tell you your paranoia is unfounded but I've done that before with Enter so it kinda isn't
but realistically, it should already be a red flag that Dat/GL flips town in that instance and you can take the time to really think about it
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Post #6508 (isolation #632 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:23 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:23 pm
I feel better about Galron now, I was mostly worried about him because the way he was playing the start of second dance was giving more credence to the idea that it was an elaborate setup
but with Shiro being town that's a lot less likely to be the case
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Post #6509 (isolation #633 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:25 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:25 pm
if you're worried enough, read through fire on the mountain, that's the closest example I have to what this game would be from my past scumgames
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Post #6513 (isolation #635 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:35 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:35 pm
I don't think activity would've been much of an issue
finding an agenda wouldn't be hard at all for scum me in a dance setup since I go into it with an agenda as town anyways
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Post #6514 (isolation #636 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:35 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:35 pm
and I hadn't played for 1.5 years so it's probably more relatively usable than most people's games from 2 years ago
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Post #6516 (isolation #637 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:36 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:36 pm
more likely town than RH9 I think
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Post #6518 (isolation #638 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:38 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:38 pm
one of the things that pinged me a bit is that he posted several posts in the PT about GL maybe being town, and that was like 18 hours ago
it's something that really depends on GL's flip, but I think RH9 is legit the partner if GL is scum
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Post #6519 (isolation #639 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:38 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:38 pm
btw I don't know if I actually mentioned this yet, but I was always lying about my townread on RH9
I townread him for a little bit for something he did at some point in first dance I can't remember anymore, but otherwise I was nullish scum on him all day
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Post #6521 (isolation #640 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:40 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:40 pm
if the team is GL/RH9, they have no wincon anymore except hoping that we turn on SS/Galron for some reason
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Post #6527 (isolation #641 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:45 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:45 pm
weren't we scumpartners in timeshift?
that would be a really funny encore
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Post #6531 (isolation #642 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:49 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:49 pm
I replaced out day three or something after Akarin vanished
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Post #6532 (isolation #643 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:51 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:51 pm
by the time I left, town was already pretty fucked though
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Post #6536 (isolation #644 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:28 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:28 pm
if your pairing is TvT then something is majorly fucked with this game
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Post #6539 (isolation #645 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:34 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:34 pm
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Post #6540 (isolation #646 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:34 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:34 pm
if you mean both pairings being TvT? That is what I mean yes
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Post #6543 (isolation #647 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:39 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:39 pm
oooooooooo
I'll hold you to that
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Post #6546 (isolation #648 ) » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:47 pm
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:47 pm
who do you think is scum again???
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Post #6554 (isolation #649 ) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:47 am
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:47 am
Should probably point out that I don't think Andante ever dies if I don't push her like that, at least not in first dance
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Post #6562 (isolation #650 ) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:44 am
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:44 am
In post 6557 , Taly wrote: Hey Aly if your townread on RH9 was fake, why be OK with Dat/GL lim next?
My earlier stance that killing the scum in RH9/Ydrasse first is not a good idea is still the case
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Post #6563 (isolation #651 ) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:44 am
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:44 am
In post 6555 , Datisi wrote: i mean, probably, that's what gl told me too. but hey, this game probably is fucked beyond belief so can you blame me for going in that direction.
No
I'd honestly expect the paranoia on me to happen about now
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Post #6567 (isolation #652 ) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:23 am
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:23 am
If we hit 4:2 then things change a bit
From my pov I just need to disprove that Ydra and RH9 is SvS and see where I go from that angle
From your pov it's a bit harder
Inb4 perspective skip
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Post #6569 (isolation #653 ) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:26 am
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:26 am
This game feels very odd since I independently feel there has to be a deepwolf in this game, but I literally don't think anybody but myself actually fits that anymore of the players still alive
I guess datisi could count but that pairing has been on very shaky ground even going into intermission
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Post #6571 (isolation #654 ) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:27 am
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:27 am
In post 6568 , Datisi wrote: alyssa, can you talk about the "i shouldn't be as certain on datisi!town as i was in predance"? what's the reason for your vote atm, who do you believe is scum?
Your entrance into second dance was among the more odd ones and I realized at some point that I'm not entirely sure I can know that what you're doing is out of your scum range
My main issue with you being scum is pairing with GL at all mainly
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Post #6572 (isolation #655 ) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:30 am
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:30 am
Idk
I feel like the fact I was reading Ydrasse in a similar vein to marcistar and that the oddness of the marci/norwe pairing can easily be explained by ydrasse also being scum is kinda convincing me again that she's scum
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Post #6596 (isolation #656 ) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:43 am
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:43 am
In post 6573 , Datisi wrote: i mean, the pairing i was thinking of pushing ended up being nightkilled, and i knew my pair was gonna be under pressure because of andante flipping red so like, idk what you expect from me there but it was always gonna be odd
I think this conversation is productive without my input atm
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Post #6597 (isolation #657 ) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:43 am
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:43 am
That quote was an accident
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Post #6598 (isolation #658 ) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:56 am
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:56 am
Independently though, I kinda feel like the perception of my alignment is kinda important at this stage so I'll engage into it
Main thing about it is how would you all expect me to approach this game from a scum pm? I can prove how I approach it with a town pm but I can't atm
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Post #6604 (isolation #659 ) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:00 am
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:00 am
how funny would it be if we decide to delay today to think things through more
and then RH9 suddenly becomes sure I'm scum, leaves, and we flip TvT
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Post #6606 (isolation #660 ) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:34 am
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by Alyssa The Lamb » Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:34 am
idk if I feel like I need to throw out all of my reads yet
tbh I've actually been feeling that maybe my pre-dance reads were the strongest they've been