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[House]

I'm other news, I'm off work this week and I'm taking my gaming rig into the shop tomorrow for maintenance that I'm far too lazy to do myself, so I'm gonna be hella bored this week.

[House]

Why you not voting "confirmed scum" then?

It's simple sign. If you vote me, i will vote back. If you are town, it's then you to blame.

I'm already voting a scumread.

If I had 2 votes, I'd accommodate your wish.

Why aren't YOU voting a scumread?

[House]

House play doesn't make sense for both alignments.

House is SK.

You got me!

[House]

Enchant, if I'm scum, who is my partner?

Is it Titus, the person I've been townreading since p1?
Is it Galron, the one that implied the game ends with my death?
Is it Dwlee, who's been extremely quiet?
Is it mastina, the claimed, non-cc'ed Mason with a dead Mason flip?

Who am I scum with & why?

[House]

The way I see it, Galron is scum, and one of you/Dwlee is his partner.

You resisting my call to have you take mastina's place on my wagon shot you up to first place with a bullet, because mastina, Galron, and Dwlee being on my wagon leaves you and Titus available to hammer.

You not wanting to take the place of confirmed town on the wagon stinks of gambiting for a hammer.

[House]

Also of note, Enchant was not at ALL concerned about the possibility that Titus might hammer me when they suggested the hammer test, yet supposedly suspects her to possibly be scum.

TMI leak #2.

[House]

Why would I hammer House? You know how stubborn I am.

I never suggested you would.

Me thinks you misunderstood.

[House]

Why would I hammer House? You know how stubborn I am.

Titus+Dwlee99 team is meme. I refuse to believe that.

Considering Titus is town, so do I.

[House]

You was only in danger of hammer if team is Exactly Titus+Dwlee99.

Objectively untrue.

If mastina & Galron were both on my wagon, that would mean there would have to be 2 scum in {Titus, Dwlee, YOU} in order to quickhammer me.

Hm.

That would suggest the possibility that the scumteam could potentially be you & Dwlee?

But that would leave Galron out, so... nah. I don't buy that.

[House]

This is going into Wednesday isn't it,

Of next week.

[House]

This is going into Wednesday isn't it,

What?
Want game going faster?

Well, vote Galron.

Why not me? I'd be easier to eliminate.

[House]

Of course, Greeting was mafia too.

Here's some homework for you:

Link to a game I've been in with Titus after 2016 where I called her town and she wasn't.

I've wrongly called her scum, but not town yet.

[House]

Of course, Greeting was mafia too.

Here's some homework for you:

Link to a game I've been in with Titus after 2016 where I called her town and she wasn't.

I've wrongly called her scum, but not town yet.

Correction: there was one game I townread her until Elo, but I scumread her before the end of the game, so I guess there IS that.

[House]

She's still town, though.

[House]

*assuming team is not Dwlee+Titus which is meme

It's not. I'd buy Dwlee & you over Dwlee & Titus, but I don't believe either to be true.

[House]

I'm not bothered by danger.

Did I not mention that?

[House]

It bothers me. I kinda don't want kill town here.

I don't know how much I believe that, considering the number of times you've voted me today.

[House]

Who is my partner?

[House]

If i didn't bother i would just vote from start and off playing other games, instead of playing masochism games.


Titus your partner most likely.

The person I've been calling town since page 1 is my partner?

Do I know how to keep a low profile or what?

... just wow.

[House]

Yeah.

What's wrong? Or you think mafia never townreads each other so blatanlty?

If you can link to a single scum game of mine where I've ever done that, I'll self-vote.

[House]

If House is really mafia, Titus partner 99%

I don't see him paired with anyone else.

I can't believe this is a real read.

[House]

We've been doing everything but dancing together in the game thread.

I want to know what kind of games Enchant had been playing to justify thinking scum go would basically high fiving each other right in the game thread the entire game, because that would be some hella entertaining reading.

[House]

Wow, butchered post is butchered.

[House]

We've been doing everything but dancing together in the game thread.

I want to know what kind of games Enchant has been playing to justify thinking scum would basically go around high fiving each other right in the game thread the entire game, because that would be some hella entertaining reading.

EBWOP

[House]

Actual town would accuse one of us of pocketing the other.

[House]

Since mastina has made it her mission in life to be a petulant child and gamethrow, the only way town wins this is to eliminate scum today and stay in lockstep to get the other one tomorrow.

Anything else, she's just going to hand the game over to scum on a silver platter and then herp derp try to blame me for her self-destructive bullshit.

[House]

Fuck.

I could be wrong on Titus.

This is reminding me of Lemon Demon.

[House]

Wait, Titus/Galron doesn't seem likely, and Titus/Enchant is a lolno.

[House]

Whew, I feel better.

Dwlee, it's Galron/Enchant.

[House]

... Titus/Dwlee?

Titus could have easily voted me back when my wagon had Enchant & mastina on it, but Dwlee wasn't around to hammer.

The only way Titus is scum is if Dwlee is her partner.

[House]

... which would really suck because I so want that TMI clear.

[House]

and so we kill house without getting to mastina, the deep wolf.

Dwlee, how does town Titus think Galron is scum yet still consider me as possible scum after this post?

[House]

... Titus/Dwlee?

Titus could have easily voted me back when my wagon had Enchant & mastina on it, but Dwlee wasn't around to hammer.

The only way Titus is scum is if Dwlee is her partner.

When was this

Start of day.

Enchant unvoted me before they went afk. Strange move for scum to do. Felt very town.

[House]

Enchant was the first vote on me today. She could have ridden her "you must be scum for fake guilty!" narrative along with mastina without raising any eyebrows at all, but unvoted me to prevent a quickhammer.

[House]

If Titus is right about you.

And I'm right about Enchant.

It HAS to be Galron Titus...

... but it can't BE Galron Titus...

The only partner with Titus is Dwlee, because Dwlee is the only player she's been all mama bear about this game.

[House]

@mastina: I summon thee from the depths of thy hatred and petition thee for thy thoughts of the possibility of a Titus/Dwlee team.

[House]

You don't get to say if you're right about enchant I'm right about enchant

I've been saying this forever

You haven't even been around to say it forever.

I've been the one keeping Titus from eliminating Enchant the entire game.

[House]

Wait wait wait

You were like

I can't be scum w Titus, cause we are being super friendly and townreading each other hard or whatever

But then you think I can be scum w Titus cause she has been calling me town?

Titus protects her buddies.

She's been bandying about the possibility of a Galron lim throughout the game.

They're not partners.

[House]

Dwlee99 is town bc they hard pushed Scorpious prejailing.

It's almost like you've never heard of distancing.

Dwlee does that. I've been scum with him.

I've taught Dwlee. They're not scum. I'm never voting them.

I don't think I ever understand Titus why are you asking me

... these posts don't mesh...

[House]

Dude Titus bussed me in 2016 what are you talking about

That's nice.

Who has she bussed in the past... say... 2 years... as scum?

[House]

You don't get to say if you're right about enchant I'm right about enchant

I've been saying this forever

You haven't even been around to say it forever.

I've been the one keeping Titus from eliminating Enchant the entire game.

My fourth post in the game calls Enchant town fight me

I didn't say you never said it early, dork.

I've been slapping Titus away from Enchant the entire game while you've been doing... I dunno... null shit.

[House]

Actually... yeah.

Thank you.

Fucking paranoia was eating me up.

[House]

Lemme double check one thing.

[House]

It's scum indicative for mastina who is meticulous in her mech reasoning. We just finished a game where she had the whole scumteam in her mech spec based on her knowledge of normals. Luckily she didn't back herself and went with her play reads instead so she didn't catch scum!me.

Another piece of evidence towards scumstina is her read on me from the outset, and her reads on flea and Mega. Her PoE seems hamfisted and intentional in it's positioning as opposed to the elegant convincing posts that may be wrong but are usually logically correct.

100% disagree on mastina's mech being spot on. I think mastina skews balance towards town. I don’t agree with her reasoning half the time but I strongly feel this is town mastina and you're BoPing her.

Titus I know you've got that trial, but I'm interested in knowing whether you still think Cheeky was BoPing mastina here.

I think Cheeky was regardless of the accuracy. You're getting at if mastina could be scum. I'll reread mastina over the night phase.

VOTE: Scorpious

With the amount of votes, I doubt the entire scumteam is on Scorpious which means he can't be in elo.

That's E minus 1

Hammer or not.

That's question.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Ok.

VOTE: Scorpious

Yeah Enchant's scum.

Looks like Titus was legit expecting a town flip for that hammer.

I'm good.

[House]

I'm back to Galron Enchant.

[House]

@mastina: let's play a game

Let's pretend I've flipped town and it's not MeLo. Fast forward through your soapboxing about what a terrible person I am.

Who is the scum team on my green flip?

[House]

Interesting.

Context? Links?

[House]

Dude Titus bussed me in 2016 what are you talking about

That's nice.

Who has she bussed in the past... say... 2 years... as scum?

Situation Room

From my brief skim (I'm lazy), scum was sweeping town and you basically led a wagon on a buddy on d4 for reasons I didn't get.

Unsettling.

[House]

Ok, subbed into a shit show.

Gotta do what you gotta do there.

Deco?

[House]

Ok, subbed into a shit show.

Gotta do what you gotta do there.

Deco

Situation Room?

[House]

Situation Room is a large. I'd really rather not have to wade through that, if you wouldn't mind providing clarity.

[House]

Yeah, the only reason I flipped my read on you in Lemon Demon is because you [redacted] my [redacted], which also happened in this game.

Hence my growing concern. It's not impossible for you to do as town, but troublesome that it happened.

[House]

At any rate, I much prefer treating you as town until late game and then reconsidering over the endless paranoia fests throughout the entire game that used to happen.

[House]

Well shit.

If you're town, the scum team pretty much has to be Titus/Dwlee.

There. You're caught up.

[House]

What happened with Galron?

Dwlee makes a hell of a lot more sense as partner with Titus, because Titus has been poking around for an opening to eliminate Galron throughout the game which she wouldn't do with a buddy barring some massive fuck up.

[House]

I could get into a theory debate with you over what I'd do as scum but it's just not relevant. *shrug*

True.

[House]

What happened with Galron?

Dwlee makes a hell of a lot more sense as partner with Titus, because Titus has been poking around for an opening to eliminate Galron throughout the game which she wouldn't do with a buddy barring some massive fuck up.

From which point you consider Titus maf, not other way?

I didn't say that I do, particularly.

That's just the only other world that makes sense if you're town.

[House]

Thinking Titus and I could possibly be the scum team, though?

Let alone 99% likelihood?

That... just blows my mind.

[House]

Thinking Titus and I could possibly be the scum team, though?

Let alone 99% likelihood?

That... just blows my mind.

Now you understand why i am immortal.

Not the word I'd use.

Calling me scum with Titus is what kicked you back into my pool.

You're day opening looked towny as hell, but claiming I'm scum WITH Titus is just plain nonsensical.

If you had said I was trying to picket her the entire game, that'd have made sense... but scum has no need to spend the entire game pocketing a buddy.

[House]

Thinking Titus and I could possibly be the scum team, though?

Let alone 99% likelihood?

That... just blows my mind.

Now you understand why i am immortal.

Not the word I'd use.

Calling me scum with Titus is what kicked you back into my pool.

Your* day opening looked towny as hell, but claiming I'm scum WITH Titus is just plain nonsensical.

If you had said I was trying to pocket* her the entire game, that'd have made sense... but scum has no need to spend the entire game pocketing a buddy.

EBWOP

[House]

^

VOTE: scorpius

It's actually funny how i want kill Scorpios regardless of claim, but know no one will follow.

Like... If somehow i manage to die, consider?

I've been your tunnel this whole game. You're just being lazy

Uuuugh.

This doesn't look S/S.

[House]

Didn't mean to quote 1563.

[House]

I'm back to Dwlee as scum.

It's possible Titus can be town and wrong on him, which makes Dwlee/Galron possible (Dwlee has had Galron in his scumreads, but not voted him ever).

[House]

Enchant, why did you bold Rolestopper?

You know Rolestopper isn't the same thing as Roleblocker, can right?

Rolestopper prevents other PR's from acting on the target (ie, can't be protected), it doesn't stop the target from using their role.

[House]

Galron has also discouraged Dwlee votes throughout the game, yet also criticized him for replacing into a null slot but not improving it.

[House]

Galron/Dwlee looks like the team, the more I look at it.

[House]

No one submitted just "Roleblocker."

And even if did, then roleblocking AND killing someone out of blue... Smells informed. And JOAT needed to end one night atleast to become informed.

Scum is informed by default, you silly goose.

[House]

Not that informed, who you called goose.

Like why kill someone AND roleblock them.

I... have no idea?

[House]

Not that informed, who you called goose.

Like why kill someone AND roleblock them.

Maybe I'm an idiot, but don't non-kill actions resolve first, then kill actions.

Usefulness depends on the action.

Commute/Hide would prevent a killing action even with Strongman.

[House]

If Cheeky's target was jailed, she didn't go anywhere and was available to be killed.

[House]

I don't remember if that was mod confirmed, but that could be it. It would've helped if Zefiend saidhe jailed N1

Jailkept players cannot be acted upon.

That's standard mechanics.

[House]

mastina if I'm an investigative scum and you have actions on top of being Mason, how do you live to today?

You don't.

If I'm Strongman scum, why the fuck would I ever send Scorpious to kill anyone since I can't be tracked or investigated?

[House]

I don't remember if that was mod confirmed, but that could be it. It would've helped if Zefiend saidhe jailed N1

Jailkept players cannot be acted upon.

That's standard mechanics.

What I'm saying is that zefiend should have told us who he blocked N1. I just found it -- he jailed because he TR Taly the most N1. So If a roleblocker blocked Cheeky, she wouldn't have been able to use her hider, and then the maf shooter would've been able to shoot her. But I think you're saying that because Taly was Jailed, Cheeky's hider was unable to be used, so she was the direct kill.

That's what Occam's Razor leads me to.

[House]

Town role submissions:
- Combined Loyal Doctor/Disloyal Vigilante
- N1 Combined Friendly Neighbor/Loyal Neighborizer (homemade Masonizer)
- Bulletproof Friendly Neighbor

Can't imagine why I didn't get any of my picks.

[House]

I don't remember if that was mod confirmed, but that could be it. It would've helped if Zefiend saidhe jailed N1

Jailkept players cannot be acted upon.

That's standard mechanics.

What I'm saying is that zefiend should have told us who he blocked N1. I just found it -- he jailed because he TR Taly the most N1. So If a roleblocker blocked Cheeky, she wouldn't have been able to use her hider, and then the maf shooter would've been able to shoot her. But I think you're saying that because Taly was Jailed, Cheeky's hider was unable to be used, so she was the direct kill.

That's what Occam's Razor leads me to.

Occam's led me to the other thing, but okay then.

Lol.

Occam's Razor seriously led you to believe that scum was so worried about Cheeky that they both blocked & NK'ed her?

Yeah, nah.

Cheeky getting blocked by a jailkept target and scum shooting is far simpler than scum rallying all that power against her on n-fucking-1.

[House]

Town role submissions:
- Combined Loyal Doctor/Disloyal Vigilante
- N1 Combined Friendly Neighbor/Loyal Neighborizer (homemade Masonizer)
- Bulletproof Friendly Neighbor

Can't imagine why I didn't get any of my picks.

lolbalance

[House]

Jailkeeping not Alien.

Jail protects only from kills.

Wrong.

[House]

Jailkeeping not Alien.

Jail protects only from kills.

Blocks all night actions incoming and outgoing.

[House]

Sigh.

It's early and I've been up all night. I'm going to bed.

[House]

I don't remember if that was mod confirmed, but that could be it. It would've helped if Zefiend saidhe jailed N1

Jailkept players cannot be acted upon.

That's standard mechanics.

What I'm saying is that zefiend should have told us who he blocked N1. I just found it -- he jailed because he TR Taly the most N1. So If a roleblocker blocked Cheeky, she wouldn't have been able to use her hider, and then the maf shooter would've been able to shoot her. But I think you're saying that because Taly was Jailed, Cheeky's hider was unable to be used, so she was the direct kill.

That's what Occam's Razor leads me to.

Occam's led me to the other thing, but okay then.

You're right. I'm loopy right now.

Good night.

[House]

Enjoy your dumbfuckery.

Anyone who even glimpses at the games I've played since my return knows for a fact I'm nowhere near my scum range because I DON'T MAKE CRAZY PLAYS AS SCUM. Not since 2016.

But continue on with the dipshittery. I'm out.

[House]

Prod received.

Here's my game advancing content: i don't give a fuck. Unsubbed for a reason.

If you're going to kill me despite the fact it's impossible for me to be scum, at least be decent enough to do it before the next prod.

I'm not wasting my time with people who are determined to do stupid shit.

[House]

Thanks for hosting, Mizzy.