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Post #5735 (isolation #600 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:15 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:15 am
In post 2854 , Menalque wrote: my very brief thoughts are that Baltar probably needs to die today, and if scum flip then pooky definitely needs to die
In post 3462 , Datisi wrote: Andresvmb has exploded night 3. he was a
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the sun rises. it is now day 4.
In post 3696 , Menalque wrote: Strange > dwlee > baltar
Could be strange and dwlee I guess, but that’s my preference for limming them
CSF, GL, bell, ceph, VPB all town
Pooky, Andy, enchant prob town?
Misty still scum
Titus can be scum, and is likely to be scum if only 1 in strange and dwlee
VOTE: strange
If Menalque is town this is literally the most unfortunate series of posts I think I've ever seen
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Post #5737 (isolation #601 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:19 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:19 am
It isn't really an ego thing unless on a subconscious level. The thing for me right now is that no matter what you post right now or how tonally pure it sounds etc. etc. it cannot erase for me that sequence that I just quoted. If you were a more polarized player then yea maybe you can town tell out of this situation but I really do not think that I should throw this away because of any amount of town telling on day seven.
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Post #5762 (isolation #602 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:11 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:11 am
In post 5744 , Menalque wrote:
this is kinda what I meant by an ego thing, btw
not a "you needing to be right on me" thing so much as an inability to look past that just being a bad sequence when you look at me holistically
The issue for me is that when I look at you holistically my brain puts huge weight on that one specific thing as very important. It's a dominating feature
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Post #5763 (isolation #603 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:11 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:11 am
I will review Pooky's progression and if both of you have equally bad progressions etc. then maybe that changes something.
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Post #5765 (isolation #604 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:13 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:13 am
Also I have no clue to find it at this point, but I think it could be worthwhile comparing Mistyx progression on VP in the N2 hood to the progressions of people in the N1 hood.
What Pooky is describing is similar to what I remember of the Mistyx/VP dynamic on N2 but I'd like to verify.
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Post #5766 (isolation #605 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:14 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:14 am
Pooky can you please play the game for the love of god
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Post #5770 (isolation #606 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:15 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:15 am
[Pooky why do you think Menalque is town? Keep in mind that it's likely scum is in the N1 expert group because VP chose to be put in there.
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Post #5782 (isolation #607 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:22 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:22 am
I mean I watched him pile drive my lim through in the game you hosted when his buddy was almost going through. Do you remember that?
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Post #5784 (isolation #608 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:24 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:24 am
You said the same thing about being convinced strange was scum
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Post #5787 (isolation #609 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:24 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:24 am
I will say I was very certain pooky was scum at some point so I should probably revisit that line of thinking
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Post #5792 (isolation #611 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:28 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:28 am
That's what I thought you'd say
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Post #5854 (isolation #612 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:29 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:29 am
Oh wow we've got the lim pool down to... Menalque/Pooky/GL/Enchant/Andante/Bell, how could we possibly lose...
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Post #5856 (isolation #613 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:30 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:30 am
In post 5806 , GuiltyLion wrote: so uh my reread didn't happen yesterday sorry about that I'll try to do it today
in the meantime
@DWLEE
can you look at my point about Andante randomly changing her read on you and claiming it was due to a result? IMO that's a far worse 180 than what you're calling out from Mena here
Menalque feels town. Wrong but town. Can we all PLEASE revisit Andante I'm begging I see everyone writing her off as "obvtown" and it freaks me out
You have to understand my experience with town! Andante I think. I'm gonna grab links
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Post #5861 (isolation #614 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:35 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:35 am
Pooky is voting him
Anyway, @GL, read here:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13285760
I laid out an associative case for how Andante's play was really scummy. And it was just dead wrong. Pooky still managed to find her though which is why I've put big stock in his read on her this game
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Post #5863 (isolation #615 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:37 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:37 am
Yes but it is funnier if that list is longer
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Post #5865 (isolation #616 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:46 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:46 am
But no one has said CSF for pages except now
Anyway, I'm lost
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Post #5866 (isolation #617 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:49 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:49 am
Oh @Pooky I think your defense of andante based on the double bus is weak. It seems like VP wanted Mistyx flipped because then it would look like the me/VP/Strange hood could be all town. So Andante pushing for mistyx there lines up with VP's agenda pretty closely
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Post #5869 (isolation #618 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:55 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:55 am
I'm having a stroke
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Post #5872 (isolation #619 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:56 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:56 am
No
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Post #5875 (isolation #620 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:58 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:58 am
Something something hot hands
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Post #5902 (isolation #621 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:11 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:11 am
Enchant is probably town lol
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Post #5906 (isolation #622 ) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:59 am
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by Dwlee99 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:59 am
I miss Bernie
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Post #5918 (isolation #623 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:52 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:52 am
In post 442 , PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: HEAL: Pooky
HEAL: Titus
HEAL: Catboi
HEAL: Andante
HEAL: Frogster
HEAL: Greeting
HEAL: Praet
I am willing to be bribed for my last heal thing
What made you want to heal praet here?
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Post #5919 (isolation #624 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:53 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:53 am
In post 447 , Lukewarm wrote:
Is this directed at the scum team, or have you still not gotten a grasp on the set up? lol
Further evidence that the defuser thing isn't cut and dry, although I'm thinking we can actually get something out of these by noting when different people had this misconception
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Post #5920 (isolation #625 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:57 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:57 am
Spoiler: Scum discovering how setup worked
In post 13 , VP Baltar wrote: wait so we have to lim AND defuse a bomb???? For some reason (read: not reading closely) I thought the day play was just picking who defused the bomb.
In post 116 , Morning Tweet wrote: i understand it's prolly not decided but are we trying to put town or scum in the defuser's seat
In post 135 , Morning Tweet wrote: I appreciate the explanation Frog. although I couldn't come near trying to help with what is optimal
I can't tell what determines how many bomb experts there are, from the rules or the VCs. I would think you would want as few as possible as to narrow the pool if a defuse fails (and we wanted it to succeed anyway)
In post 138 , VP Baltar wrote: In post 81 , Cephrir wrote: i think for now it might be ok to treat the bomb as an optional town directed kill, we do need to understand that mafia can choose the defuser while knowing the experts though and can potentially send someone they think is being misread by the experts
So basically, let's send four strong town reads as experts and they can decide whether to sabotage whoever is nommed as defuser.
but how do we get around this?
In post 2 , Datisi wrote: during the first 4 days, once someone has acted as a bomb expert, they are unable to be a bomb expert the next two nights, meaning they cannot be nominated.
In post 171 , The Praetorian wrote: Hi I'm not reading the first 7 pages
nom me for defuser ty
HEAL: the praetorian
also
VOTE: catboi
In post 187 , The Praetorian wrote: In post 185 , The Bulge wrote: mafia chooses the defuser each night. town votes to nominate the experts. there is no fully functional townkill because even if experts choose to detonate, they are only playing scum's wifom game.
Oh lol
I thought the system was eliminate + nominate defusers and experts
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Post #5923 (isolation #626 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:23 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:23 am
Oh I see
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Post #5924 (isolation #627 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:25 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:25 am
I believe when I made
293 I just got the words defuser and expert jumbled in my head but knew what the setup was but I can't say that with complete certainty
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Post #5931 (isolation #628 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:03 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:03 am
Pooky I really need you to evaluate if you actually think Menalque is town with the way you're talking about his case
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Post #5934 (isolation #629 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:11 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:11 am
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post #5936 (isolation #630 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:14 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:14 am
I didn't read it tbh
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Post #5938 (isolation #631 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:18 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:18 am
Ugh anyway I think scum!menalque is absolutely required to do what he did with the reads on me/strange/baltar... Town him I am really struggling to understand how he literally flips his reads on three people into the exact perfect configuration for scum literally overnight.
And his read on Baltar N1 was townreading enough to pressure y'all to defuse apparently but again it changes to scumread into townread at the exact perfect time. I'm gonna pull up the quotes again
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Post #5941 (isolation #632 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:22 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:22 am
In post 2854 , Menalque wrote: my very brief thoughts are that Baltar probably needs to die today, and if scum flip then pooky definitely needs to die
In post 3276 , Menalque wrote: today is the last day of term, so I should be around more after I've lesson planned
I haven't read anything since I was last here, but I've reconsidered and I think I'm willing to lim in the pool of "likely scum" one more time
if the PoE of likely suspects doesn't flip scum, then I think it's likely we're in a world where scum lives in the town-ish (or at least, null) players and we're being played into limming slots that just look bad
Day 2 end
Like come onnnnn
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Post #5943 (isolation #633 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:23 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:23 am
I guess he is consistent that pooky scum if vp scum lol
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Post #5944 (isolation #634 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:25 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:25 am
Also the night that Menalque put me into the "why was dwlee experted category" was immediately after we limmed scum!mala >_>
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Post #5949 (isolation #635 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:36 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:36 am
I don't see the connection between your enchant read and your VP read?
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Post #5954 (isolation #636 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:42 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:42 am
I haven't read it yet (I'm so sorry omg)
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Post #5956 (isolation #637 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:43 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:43 am
Idk if this is TMI but my doctor and insurance have been dragging their feet on filling my adderall prescription for over a month now so I've had a lot more trouble focusing lately
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Post #6007 (isolation #638 ) » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:54 pm
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by Dwlee99 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:54 pm
Yea and Strange is scum
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Post #6028 (isolation #639 ) » Sun May 01, 2022 2:35 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sun May 01, 2022 2:35 am
In post 6025 , Bell wrote:
Excellent point. Let me know who you want me to vote and when!
Mena...
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Post #6029 (isolation #640 ) » Sun May 01, 2022 2:39 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sun May 01, 2022 2:39 am
In post 5735 , Dwlee99 wrote: In post 2854 , Menalque wrote: my very brief thoughts are that Baltar probably needs to die today, and if scum flip then pooky definitely needs to die
In post 3462 , Datisi wrote: Andresvmb has exploded night 3. he was a
DATS Inc. simple doctor
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Spoiler:
welcome, Andresvmb
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role abilities:
~ each night, you may target a player. assuming no interference with your action, that player will be protected from one kill that night. this action will fail if used on a player who is not vanilla. this action does not
protect against bomb explosion.
win conditions:
~ you win when all GB Inc. infiltrators are dead and at least one DATS Inc. employee is alive.
~ alternatively, you win when DATS Inc. employees act as successful bomb defusers 8 times.
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Greeting has been killed night 3. he was a
DATS Inc. trainee
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welcome, Greeting
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~ once in the game, at any time, you may choose to inherit a dead DATS Inc. employee's role. you will become their role at the start of the next phase (day, twilight, or night).
~ if the role you inherit is x-shot, the used shots will not be refunded.
win conditions:
~ you win when all GB Inc. infiltrators are dead and at least one DATS Inc. employee is alive.
~ alternatively, you win when DATS Inc. employees act as successful bomb defusers 8 times.
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the sun rises. it is now day 4.
In post 3696 , Menalque wrote: Strange > dwlee > baltar
Could be strange and dwlee I guess, but that’s my preference for limming them
CSF, GL, bell, ceph, VPB all town
Pooky, Andy, enchant prob town?
Misty still scum
Titus can be scum, and is likely to be scum if only 1 in strange and dwlee
VOTE: strange
If Menalque is town this is literally the most unfortunate series of posts I think I've ever seen
Can I see a world now where town!mena gets vibed into townreading VPB and scumreading me and strange because greeting townread enchant. I guess so.
Do I believe we are in that world? Still no.
And I can be wrong but also it feels like by far the most obvious answer
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Post #6030 (isolation #641 ) » Sun May 01, 2022 2:44 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sun May 01, 2022 2:44 am
I'm trusting bell is town because everyone has said bell is town (ala a large theme I played where this occurred)
CSF/Andante I believe with strong probability are town
I still want to townread GL because his posts defending me. I think there's a case that I'm hard pocketed by him but whatever
That leaves Enchant/Pooky/Menalque
I can see a world for any of these scum
Enchant feels least likely. Menalque seems most. If we can find a way to kill all three I think that wins us the game. If we can't idfk and maybe I'm wrong and scum aren't even in there
But I really wanna flip Menalque
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Post #6031 (isolation #642 ) » Sun May 01, 2022 2:50 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sun May 01, 2022 2:50 am
I'm getting similar vibes to
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=89302 where we had obvious associatives between the flipped mafia D1 and the unclipped mafia and then people were trying to talk themselves out of limming the final scum until he E-1'd himself with Enchant in the game lol
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Post #6032 (isolation #643 ) » Sun May 01, 2022 2:51 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sun May 01, 2022 2:51 am
Ftr I was hoping to quickhammer it which is why I wasn't voting there. But I couldn't coordinate a quickhammer with enchant cause someone would have unvoted. Sad
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Post #6033 (isolation #644 ) » Sun May 01, 2022 2:58 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sun May 01, 2022 2:58 am
I will also say I have no personal reason why I townread bell other than other people saying he is town
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Post #6036 (isolation #645 ) » Sun May 01, 2022 3:26 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sun May 01, 2022 3:26 am
The choice if the game continues is you or pooky and I think Pooky is mildly more likely to be scum than you are so I am healing you also as a token of good faith to mena
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Post #6042 (isolation #646 ) » Sun May 01, 2022 3:34 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sun May 01, 2022 3:34 am
I don't want day to end until Pooky is on computer and can give me who he thinks is scum
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Post #6044 (isolation #647 ) » Sun May 01, 2022 3:35 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sun May 01, 2022 3:35 am
See do I unvote this so we can get the pooky content you're insisting is so important or just let you flip
Last scum literally did this exact thing in the game I linked...
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Post #6046 (isolation #648 ) » Sun May 01, 2022 3:35 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sun May 01, 2022 3:35 am
Please be over
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Post #6048 (isolation #649 ) » Sun May 01, 2022 3:36 am
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by Dwlee99 » Sun May 01, 2022 3:36 am
Whatever sounds like I was wrong sorry
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Post #6059 (isolation #650 ) » Wed May 04, 2022 7:33 am
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by Dwlee99 » Wed May 04, 2022 7:33 am
HEAL: Guiltylion
GL is conftown
Bell is basically conftown
VOTE: Pooky
Andante/Enchant very town
CSF town by play
Leaves pooky
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Post #6063 (isolation #651 ) » Wed May 04, 2022 7:37 am
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by Dwlee99 » Wed May 04, 2022 7:37 am
What
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Post #6064 (isolation #652 ) » Wed May 04, 2022 7:37 am
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by Dwlee99 » Wed May 04, 2022 7:37 am
Can y'all use your words lmao
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Post #6069 (isolation #653 ) » Wed May 04, 2022 7:43 am
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by Dwlee99 » Wed May 04, 2022 7:43 am
I have not looked at those, no. I can though.
I think that associatives are something that can be very manipulated into a favorable position though, especially by someone like Pooky. I mean you might recall me going "I don't think Koba busses VP this early" and well... yea
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Post #6071 (isolation #654 ) » Wed May 04, 2022 7:46 am
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by Dwlee99 » Wed May 04, 2022 7:46 am
I kinda agree. I wish we had more time yesterday to get more Pooky content
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Post #6076 (isolation #655 ) » Wed May 04, 2022 8:42 am
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by Dwlee99 » Wed May 04, 2022 8:42 am
I think Bell was shot at N2
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Post #6077 (isolation #656 ) » Wed May 04, 2022 8:42 am
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by Dwlee99 » Wed May 04, 2022 8:42 am
That or Pooky N1 (less likely)
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Post #6119 (isolation #657 ) » Wed May 04, 2022 5:17 pm
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by Dwlee99 » Wed May 04, 2022 5:17 pm
He probably shouldn't be near conftown, kinda exaggeration of heal theory and that he didn't blow GL up
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Post #6120 (isolation #658 ) » Wed May 04, 2022 5:19 pm
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by Dwlee99 » Wed May 04, 2022 5:19 pm
No kill N2 could be because Bell was the killer and not the killee? I think scum definitely tried to kill N2
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Post #6121 (isolation #659 ) » Wed May 04, 2022 5:21 pm
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by Dwlee99 » Wed May 04, 2022 5:21 pm
As I said before... do not know how to read Bell. I let other people do that and try to assume they're right because they insist it's easy
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Post #6134 (isolation #660 ) » Wed May 04, 2022 5:52 pm
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by Dwlee99 » Wed May 04, 2022 5:52 pm
Pooky I don't think the approach of pointing out everything wrong is likely to lead to an accurate approach in general even if it happens to be Bell this time
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