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VC

Flavor Leaf [3]:

humaneatingmonkey [265], koopashell [539], Roden [598]

koopashell [2]:

Scorpious [457], ItalianoVD [484]

humaneatingmonkey [1]:

Flavor Leaf [273]

Not Known 15 [1]:

JacksonVirgo [138]

ItalianoVD [1]:

KittyTacky [364]

Not voting [5]:

MalcolmTucker, Facebones, Saladman27, Not Known 15 [149], Malakittens [561]

mod notes

Replacing Saladman27. There's someone who asked to be on the replace list so they'll have priority for a few hours

flavor

Spoiler: what a silly

*yawn*

crumbing PR then claiming early when getting into a 1v1 is scummy.

In post 598, Roden wrote:

In post 527, Flavor Leaf wrote:Man, this human's obsessed with me.

@Roden - wasn't that serious

So much FL talk when I was away, that's what I like to see. Even when I'm not here, the spotlight loves me

Nah you don't get to backpedal after you made several solves that make me a PoE choice without explaining anything.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

watch me.

I crumbed way earlier than you believe it to be. Again, good luck.

In post 596, koopashell wrote:If you wish to live, explain your progession on my slot *in detail* because it is my view that you have tried to manipulate me and use me as a tool for you.

sure. that's been my main focus with you.

In post 601, Flavor Leaf wrote:*yawn*

crumbing PR then claiming early when getting into a 1v1 is scummy.

In post 603, koopashell wrote:I crumbed way earlier than you believe it to be. Again, good luck.

Dont care about the crumbing early part, it's the play of using it to empower a 1v1.

what does "way earlier" matter? I wasnt claiming you did it specifically with the idea in mind to 1v1 me.

dont even know if you're scum, i've had you in lean town.

Dumb play as town, though.

You were already voting me too, so your vote was just posturing.

In post 559, koopashell wrote:There are no masons in the setup.

you also said this, meaning you were already setting this up, regardless of alignment.

I am strongarming now, I feel confident now.

In post 233, Flavor Leaf wrote:Paranoia is making me think of a theory where Koopa/Italian are scum, and now Koopa's trying to damage control this Italian push by going along with me, and pushing Mala/Roden together more, which is strong considering I was also suspicious of Roden.

Not my first thought, but making note of it for later in the game I can look at.

I'll have to get a little scummier, though. Might play around with getting myself wagon'd later, idk

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If people are thinking the way I'm playing right now is scummy, don't know what to say, you probably need to look into how scum actually play.

Backpedaling, and fighting with people to get momentum on them is not how scum play.


I'm a magnet who attracts scum to my wagon.

You are also acting like I haven't been the main wagon for a minute now. To be fair, mala was sitting on me for a while, but still, I was the main wagon with 3 votes on me for pages, and as soon as it eases up, here it goes.

In post 608, koopashell wrote:I am strongarming now, I feel confident now.

Good luck, hope you're right.

Curious, how does a 1v1 between you and Dkkoba work out, Koopa?

In post 598, Roden wrote:

In post 527, Flavor Leaf wrote:Man, this human's obsessed with me.

@Roden - wasn't that serious

So much FL talk when I was away, that's what I like to see. Even when I'm not here, the spotlight loves me

Nah you don't get to backpedal after you made several solves that make me a PoE choice without explaining anything.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

This is probably coming from town who hasn't learned how to look past getting POE scum read as a personal thing.

In post 596, koopashell wrote:I have gotten to the point where there is way too much of a disparity between our perspectives and the nail on the coffin was trying to push a PoE that includes 2 people who are actually towny.

if you are town, this shows you still have a lot to learn.

You're seeing the disparity as bad on Day 1.

You also don't know how to handle having different reads than another player.

Go look at that game I linked to you--Mathblade and I had a very similar dynamic and they pushed me as lockscum all game. And I actively said I thought they were wrong the entire time. They were a mason.

I mean there is a lot of OMGUS style reads in the realm of NK15 and HEM as well as myself partially vs you - and myself with scorpious and italiano - but the difference is I am seeing the reasons behind these players' pushes as shallow against me while the ones against you are more thought out.

I expect NK15 to join my wagon, maybe Kitty.

A neutral could probably join.

It's very possible I'm faded.

That's just not a possibility to happen on Day 1 if I were scum. Can hate that as a reason all you want, my town flip would prove that to be true and completely break your "im right most of the time" self meta, making your first push over here an incorrect push.

In post 615, koopashell wrote:I mean there is a lot of OMGUS style reads in the realm of NK15 and HEM as well as myself partially vs you - and myself with scorpious and italiano - but the difference is I am seeing the reasons behind these players' pushes as shallow against me while the ones against you are more thought out.

so what reasons do you have to think I'm scum rather than a cocky town player spitting a lot of shit out there for harsh reaction?

I don't think you are lockscum, but trying to discredit my point of view won't do you any favors.

more curious to learn who you are as a person/player than for the game, but they do coincide.

In other words:Your Roden was BS.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

This is a policy vote.

In post 617, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 615, koopashell wrote:I mean there is a lot of OMGUS style reads in the realm of NK15 and HEM as well as myself partially vs you - and myself with scorpious and italiano - but the difference is I am seeing the reasons behind these players' pushes as shallow against me while the ones against you are more thought out.

so what reasons do you have to think I'm scum rather than a cocky town player spitting a lot of shit out there for harsh reaction?

I'll ask you this - are you particularly accurate as town? I am working with the assumption that being verbose and good as wolf, you are also able to transfer that knowledge to your towngame and give you good reads that way

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In post 618, koopashell wrote:I don't think you are lockscum, but trying to discredit my point of view won't do you any favors.

I don't need to discredit your POV. You've just outed yourself as an overreactionary playstyle to people who don't agree with your reads is all.

I wasn't discrediting you at all, I was just pushing my thoughts on this game.

Frankly, you were the player I thought I was working with the most to get my reads, and is why I've defended you multiple times even when you were voting me.

In post 621, Not Known 15 wrote:This is a policy vote.

No it's not. You literally just gave a reason.