I have some thoughts on where to push if your coalition fails skitts.
I think its probly best to consolidate and push something through rather than keep waiting?
best case scenario maybe your coalition works and we just win
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 2:47 pm
by skitter30
sorry irrel i'm not trying to annoy you!
and i even townread you!
i just don't know if the reasons you're giving to townread yourself are inherently reasons why i townread you
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 2:47 pm
by skitter30
ok HEAL: dats
if this is wrong let's blame the short deadline
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 2:51 pm
by Aristeia
In post 599, skitter30 wrote:on reflection, i could probably add ari on the condition that if she doesn't like literally solve the game and is alive in elo she gets flipped
(again sorry <3 i have to cover my bases!)
hehe I might actually prefer being out of coalition so if it fails I can be conftowned since mala is probly almost always scum here
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 2:56 pm
by Irrelephant11
ari - feels really comfortable, not in everyone's coalition and seemingly unbothered. If scum, scum with someone other than mala/nk15/fire
std - based 90% on vibes I think he's town, needs a re-eval before end of phase. Could be scum with anyone, really, except fire
skitter - solving, we keep mindmelding (imo one of the best ways to find other townies in this setup, though obvs not perfect), making sense to me. If scum, pocketing me
menalque - I don't remember why I felt really really confident this was town. Something about arguing with std in good faith
interrupting this broadcast to ask why the scumteam isn't std/menalque? Not saying it is, just asking someone to remind me why, because paranoia. @ari? @skitter?
datisi and fire - I fought with both, both didn't like that. I tried to defuse things with both to not eat the thread. both didn't like that. I townread both for basically the same reasons - self-righteous anger and scumreading me for what *I* perceive to be mostly playstyle + Irrel-is-good-at-scum considerations
nk15 - Part of me thinks nk15 thinks he's solved the game and doesn't need to work. But like if this is town, I don't know how to reassure myself of that. So. Can't come in the coalition, sorry
malakittens - playing? or just popping in to pretend to play? The excuse for not playing could be valid but doesn't mean she's town, so again. Unreadable
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 2:58 pm
by Irrelephant11
Y'all. I didn't sign up for a coalition game just to play past day 1! We're solving this day 1! I say give it 12-24 more hours for mala or NK15 to magically town it up & for menalque/fire to get more townreads & for me to make sure std is town
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 3:01 pm
by skitter30
In post 604, Irrelephant11 wrote:interrupting this broadcast to ask why the scumteam isn't std/menalque? Not saying it is, just asking someone to remind me why, because paranoia. @ari? @skitter?
uh i townread both? are you asking me why i townread them or why they can't be scum together?
i don't particularly have an answer for the latter
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 3:02 pm
by Irrelephant11
I don't know I guess I just had a flash of them being scum and being comfortable because they're nailing it and everyone else flailing because we're not
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 3:05 pm
by skitter30
fair
idk if scum-std votes partner-menta for 146 and i'm not sure that later becomes such a Thing if that's the scumteam
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 3:07 pm
by Irrelephant11
me, you, datisi, and fire all seem different amount of distressed because we're struggling and feeling like ahhhh maybe a scum is in the coalition i just can't decide who. ari a little bit, not as much, but is also feeling the brain melt
and std and menalque are like
"well I dunno I don't see it how you see it that's too bad huh" with each other and shrugging and moving along
I do townread both for tonal reasons and townread std for the coalitions he's suggested at various points and overall don't think either is the most scummy player here but it just came to me and I need talked out of it for a sec
pedit but are those posts just really dumb scum theater? Sorry not to make this about my paranoia, this will be the last I mention it today
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 3:10 pm
by skitter30
fair enuf. it isn't really clearing, but that's the best thing i can think of
also mena has been consistently sr'ing std and seems wary about adding him to the coalition which seems sort of counter-productive as partners here
Oh also I forgot to respond but she's alright! Putting ice on it and trying to rest, etc. Just makes having toddlers become... complicated
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 3:58 pm
by Irrelephant11
okay my paranoia moment is over I've decided I'm probably just being dumb and the issue is not that they're scum it's just that they're not in the thread.................. probably
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 4:18 pm
by Irrelephant11
fire if you could take one person out of my coalition (datisi, aristeia, skitter, std, menalque) who would it be. And if you could take out two who would it be? In theory this would be to put you or you+me in
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 5:09 pm
by Save The Dragons
you guys move fast i don't think i'm trying to fade into the background or anything but i'm not always on when you guys are talking to each other
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 5:10 pm
by Save The Dragons
trying to wrap my head around new fire posts
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 5:13 pm
by Save The Dragons
i mean maybe i don't like that the read on me hasn't evolved into a tr
but i am a little bothered it was just scum right out of the gate and it hasn't changed at all despite me trying my best
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 5:16 pm
by Aristeia
In post 591, skitter30 wrote:i'd ideally probably want some more time to ruminate but given that we're running low on time given everything we need to do i'm leaning towards me/dats/irrel/std/mena
what do you feel about this coalition skitter has proposed?
ok i haven't really played much with std but i did meta read a bunch of games when i was trying to sort him in large 238 d1. i felt like i got a decent feel for how he approaches games differently as town vs scum, and thought that he was likely scum that game, so that's why i TA checked him n1. unfortunately he was traitor so i got a false inno
i feel somewhat hesitant to even try to justify this read bc i don't think im going to explain it very well but whatever
basically i feel like there is a certain energy that he has when town, like he is generally excited to solve the game and also just... wants to be there. he usually has reads that it feels like he really cares about, or even if he doesn't exactly, he still is trying to work with people and help move the game forward
as scum he has fine read progressions and etc and still can joke around and whatnot but he lacks that town energy. he seems content to be a background character and pop up occasionally with a Good Post, and yet not really drive things. when i read posts that he makes as scum i picture him making a face and being like "ugh do i have to do this".
these were just the first ones i saw but i think p much any of them would fit imo
i think his iso this game looks way closer to his usual scumgame. ive thought that since like his first 3 posts so maybe im confbiased idk, and maybe he's just lacking energy due to non-alignment-related reasons, but idk its still the read i have
if anyone who has played with him more than me thinks that this take is way off then im willing to reconsider
i dunno if i'd pick that town game because mech was a pretty big part of it and coalition you have to look at day play but i guess i can see the jokiness
i don't know what "town energy" i'm not displaying
i can't really refute this. i mean i dunno what to say other than it's incorrect
i also said the word testicle in my scum game but haven't said it here. not really relevant just thought i'd share
In post 591, skitter30 wrote:i'd ideally probably want some more time to ruminate but given that we're running low on time given everything we need to do i'm leaning towards me/dats/irrel/std/mena
what do you feel about this coalition skitter has proposed?
i could do that
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 5:25 pm
by Aristeia
I mean like do you townread everyone in that coalition?
would you be excited to get it passed?
would you be ok getting yeeted off the face of the earth if it didn't pass?
you know important things.
also you can sheep her if you would like to get things moving
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 5:25 pm
by Save The Dragons
gth solve is fire/mala with fire trying to get in and mala trying (or at least willing) to stay out
im nervous because i feel like i could be wrong about that but i would probably take any coalition without them at this point (probably not nk15 tho)
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 5:30 pm
by Save The Dragons
In post 620, Aristeia wrote:I mean like do you townread everyone in that coalition?
