Mini 647 - Abyss Layer 21 [Over]

[Natirasha]

K. Lots of nothing happened, apparently. Also, my Retrowiz kill just failed. Not sure if thats a good thing or not.

@Retrowiz. I, for one, say that we have one scum left and it's either you or farside. Present your final case, I'll

Unvote

for now. Tell us what you've got.

[farside22]

K. Lots of nothing happened, apparently. Also, my Retrowiz kill just failed. Not sure if thats a good thing or not.

@Retrowiz. I, for one, say that we have one scum left and it's either you or farside. Present your final case, I'll

Unvote

for now. Tell us what you've got.

Why not Max?

[Natirasha]

I'm getting good vibes from him. Also, I came into a similar situation recently in Ace Attorney: two players who attack each other to the point that one of them is obviously scum in possible LyLo. The same has happened here, except I'm the confirmed townie this time. And, as I said earlier, I believe that one scum is left.

[Raffles]

Hi. I'm back. This is going to be one quick post though, rest to come once I do get back from work.

Just read the whole interaction between farside and retrowiz. I just want to point out that since diamond body is a passive ability, it does not have a failure rate. So we

could

lynch retrowiz to see if he's a townie. If he's a scum, he was bluffing, he dies another scum bites the dust, go us. If he is a townie and assuming he hasn't lied, then he would be unlynchable. He would most likely be drained of his un-NKability and be killed that night.

Obviously one glaring flaw with this plan is if we are on lylo and retrowiz is a town, then we lose the game. Which means if we are to go ahead with this plan, we need to see if there is a good chance of two scums in the corpses.

[Natirasha]

Hi. I'm back. This is going to be one quick post though, rest to come once I do get back from work.

Just read the whole interaction between farside and retrowiz. I just want to point out that since diamond body is a passive ability, it does not have a failure rate. So we

could

lynch retrowiz to see if he's a townie. If he's a scum, he was bluffing, he dies another scum bites the dust, go us. If he is a townie and assuming he hasn't lied, then he would be unlynchable. He would most likely be drained of his un-NKability and be killed that night.

Obviously one glaring flaw with this plan is if we are on lylo and retrowiz is a town, then we lose the game. Which means if we are to go ahead with this plan, we need to see if there is a good chance of two scums in the corpses.

Or I vig scum tonight. Even if they drain my power, it will work tonight.

[maxwellhouse]

hey, sorry for being a little late on posting.

i don't know about retro, to be honest. i feel like he's waving the unlynchable ability flag in our faces really hard. i'm not sure if that means he's truly town or trying to bluff on it.

of the people who have died so far, i'm not really sure if there are 1 or 2 people left, to be honest. darox = scum, roffman = ?. i'm leaning toward 1 since the whole scorpion strike could have been just a way for scum to make us think roff was town, like some people have brought up.

Hi. I'm back. This is going to be one quick post though, rest to come once I do get back from work.

Just read the whole interaction between farside and retrowiz. I just want to point out that since diamond body is a passive ability, it does not have a failure rate. So we

could

lynch retrowiz to see if he's a townie. If he's a scum, he was bluffing, he dies another scum bites the dust, go us. If he is a townie and assuming he hasn't lied, then he would be unlynchable. He would most likely be drained of his un-NKability and be killed that night.

Obviously one glaring flaw with this plan is if we are on lylo and retrowiz is a town, then we lose the game. Which means if we are to go ahead with this plan, we need to see if there is a good chance of two scums in the corpses.

Or I vig scum tonight. Even if they drain my power, it will work tonight.

that works, i think. the only way it could go wrong is if you vigged the wrong person, so watch for more scumtells.

[XReyoX]

Vote Count

retrowiz (1): Xtoxm

Not voting (4): Raffles, retrowiz, maxwellhouse, Natirasha

5 alive, 3 votes to lynch

[Xtoxm]

Hey guys.

So yeh, i'm here to make sure the scumzors don't kill Farside for not posting for a period of > 24 hours.

Thus, I shall me making a filler post such as this every 24 hours until she returns.

You can give me some basic questioning if you want to try and help prove she's town, but really, don't expect much.

@ mod, please capitalize my X in the vote counts. Thnx.

[retrowiz]

my case was based on scorpion strike, which we know is out there. while farside and I were chatting, someone was missing for 24 hours. AND I was at l-2 which if that non-poster was killed, I'd be auto lnched, then game over. which to me means a) the absent one was scum, b) was max or raff anyway (because I, or farside, would have noticed, and nat is already cleared.)

need to go back to see which it was again.

Why was I looking for non-posters? cause farside asked for others feedback, and that triggered the question for me

[retrowiz]

vote:raff

@ Max, I mentioned I had it in 1 manybe 2 posts, I dont think thats shoving in your face.

[Raffles]

Another quickie post as I'm exhausted from work and would really like to go to bed.

I'm getting good vibes from him. Also, I came into a similar situation recently in Ace Attorney: two players who attack each other to the point that one of them is obviously scum in possible LyLo. The same has happened here, except I'm the confirmed townie this time. And, as I said earlier, I believe that one scum is left.

I don't know if I can share that. I cannot throw away both 1 scum theory and 2 scum theory. As much as I'd like to see Wall-E as scum, it is a day 1 lynch and there is a fair chance I could have had a wrong person. And as much as I was convinced roffman was scum, I find the circumstances around his death highly suspicious.

If there are two scums left, then retrowiz is probably scum, as he was at L-1 at one point. This will be a good time to look over retrowiz more carefully, so I'll look into it tomorrow morning.

If there is one scum left then I don't know. If retrowiz is not scum then they may not go for an easy hammer, because they may attract suspicion on the next day. If retrowiz is scum... then it's up to a townie to hammer. Unfortunately I wasn't there when the whole page 24 took place so I can't really say. Last part might not be very clear. I'm too tired. I'll clear it up tomorrow. I have a comment to retrowiz about the scorpion thing too. Good night everyone.

[maxwellhouse]

@ Max, I mentioned I had it in 1 manybe 2 posts, I dont think thats shoving in your face.

i apologize, that was misrepresentative. but still, i don't know why you are so eager to want to be lynched to prove your innocence when there is 1 maybe 2 scum left, though i think there is just 1. however, we have to think in worst case scenario and having 2 scum and lynching you would just waste a lynch and cause us to lose. that's why i found it kind of weird you wanted to prove your innocence, not sure if you were bluffing or being truthful.

[Xtoxm]

I understand that I don not know all the mechanics of this game, but I have checked the front page - Is it not possible that the scum don't have the necessary requirement of Crystals for a 24 hour strike?

Question - If the inactive player has not posted for 24 hours, is he redeemed by posting, or can a strike still be called on him, at any point subsequent to said spell of inactivity?

Because it the former is the case, I see it also a possibility that the scum did not notice in time to call a strike.

[Natirasha]

This is my plan.

1. Lynch retrowiz. If he doesn't die, we have another confirmed townie. If he dies, we killed scum.
2. If he is town, I kill farside or Raffles tonight, as a safeguard. No one should use any protections except on me.
3. We lynch someone tomorrow. With two confirmed townies, it shouldn't be to hard to find the last scum.

[Xtoxm]

At a glance, your plan does not look failproof to me. Is there something i'm missing?

Btw - Have you all massclaimed yet?

[Natirasha]

At a glance, your plan does not look failproof to me. Is there something i'm missing?

Btw - Have you all massclaimed yet?

It is not. It is actually based on a number of assumptions and can easily fail. I am, however, fine with that.

We have not massclaimed, although I am a confirmed-townie vig.

[Xtoxm]

I gathered that, but I was just curious, if this was the way it had come to light.

[Natirasha]

I gathered that, but I was just curious, if this was the way it had come to light.

No, I dayvigged Darox yesterday directly after he posted. Speaking of which, do you have an alignment on Darox?

[Xtoxm]

Cool. What made you choose him?

I may or may not have an idea of his alignment. As Farside has not claimed, I do not wish to say anything which could lead to outing her role.

[Natirasha]

Cool. What made you choose him?

I had a running countdown and whoever garnered the most scumpoints I shot. He garnered the most.

I may or may not have an idea of his alignment. As Farside has not claimed, I do not wish to say anything which could lead to outing her role.

Farside did claim to have Darox's alignment but didn't tell us. Us knowing it would help a lot.

[Xtoxm]

Ok, in that case I can confirm that I have Darox's alignment. If Farside did not reveal his alignment, then she clearly had reasons for this, and although I do not see any at a glance, I shall also not reveal it.

If Farside feels it is the best thing to do, i'm sure she will reveal it when she returns.

[Natirasha]

Ok, in that case I can confirm that I have Darox's alignment. If Farside did not reveal his alignment, then she clearly had reasons for this, and although I do not see any at a glance, I shall also not reveal it.

If Farside feels it is the best thing to do, i'm sure she will reveal it when she returns.

Very well.

[XReyoX]

Vote Count

retrowiz (1): Xtoxm
Raffles (1): retrowiz

Not voting (3): Raffles, maxwellhouse, Natirasha

5 alive, 3 votes to lynch

[Raffles]

my case was based on scorpion strike, which we know is out there. while farside and I were chatting, someone was missing for 24 hours. AND I was at l-2 which if that non-poster was killed, I'd be auto lnched, then game over. which to me means a) the absent one was scum, b) was max or raff anyway (because I, or farside, would have noticed, and nat is already cleared.)

need to go back to see which it was again.

Why was I looking for non-posters? cause farside asked for others feedback, and that triggered the question for me

I've been watching the post time too because of what had happened yesterday. You forget to notice that everyone apart from Nat was away at the beginning of the day for 24 hours, and there are definitely at least one another time each for both retrowiz and farside was away for 24hours. There has been occasions where I haven't shown face for 24 hours too. As a result of no one being killed, combined with there being ample opportunities, it suggests to me that scum has already used the power, but it had failed. So if scorpion strike is the reason you have voted for me, then it's a terrible reason.

It is also a good news, as so long as no one is away for 48 hours, we should be safe.

[Raffles]

I have just noticed that maxwellhouse is still in the game. His presence is so minor that I have forgotten he exists... I shall look through his posting. I smell lurker.