Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[bnuuy]

Do you agree w me that FL’s claiming his ability in his monastery seems somewhat town-indicative?

No.

Interesting. Why do you disagree? What seems different to the situation of LSS (aside from confirmed multiple scum teams)?

[Enchant]

I predict Flavor will be roleblocked next night.

Hilarious issues.

[Save The Dragons]

flavor cannot be a wolf

[butterchurn]

From the way I see it yes.

That is, quite frankly, ridiculous.

[MonkeyMan576]

He doesn’t even have to be roleblocked he just needs to claim he is roleblocked.

[Save The Dragons]

@malcolm, why not CSF?

[Enchant]

He doesn’t even have to be roleblocked he just needs to claim he is roleblocked.

Yes. That's what i also mean.

[MalcolmTucker]

FL already claimed vig so there’s only one town slot he could be. However he could still be any of the four mafia slots plus any werewolf slot with a gun.

I agree Flavor is likely mafia on balance of things but I think we can afford to probably have them around for one more day, if they're being genuine here they probably die overnight you'd imagine. If they are town both scum teams will almost certainly strike.

[MalcolmTucker]

@malcolm, why not CSF?

I TR'd them early D1 and hadn't seen anything glaring to change that so far. I'll do an ISO on them shortly, just been reading through Butter's game.

[Sword of Ducks]

Do you agree w me that FL’s claiming his ability in his monastery seems somewhat town-indicative?

No.

Interesting. Why do you disagree? What seems different to the situation of LSS (aside from confirmed multiple scum teams)?

For all we both know the claim could've been easily faked.

[MalcolmTucker]

Been ISO'ing Butter and despite some suggestions to the contrary I think they remain solidly town for me right now.

I'm aware this is obviously coming from knowing I'm town myself, but their town-read on me felt quite genuine and unnecessary if scum - they could have easily joined or at least tried to bolster a wagon against me to put me under more pressure. Likewise, their TR of Klick early doors felt genuine in that it wasn't just a complete "this person is town" but also put out a reasonable case as to why they believed that to be true.

I'm aware some players can make themselves look extra townie with big, long analytical posts but I feel like there's plenty of substance in what Butter has posted and they've been open-minded enough to new ideas or wagons without being too opportunistic.

If you were being particularly harsh on Butter you could say the early votes on Monkey and pressure there was potentially opportunistic and a way to push a townie they thought was flailing. But I don't think any of their interrogations of Monkey were unreasonable and in time they were willing to back off the slot a bit in a way that felt organic.

[bnuuy]

What is your general stance on Flavor Leaf, Ducks?

[Sword of Ducks]

What is your general stance on Flavor Leaf, Ducks?

Townie, with issues in real life going on. They're frustrated, so they're taking it out on us.

[bnuuy]

Okay then

[Menalque]

yes malc, free me from this mortal coil, I beseech thee

[Flavor Leaf]

there is now a concentrated effort to remove FL as a vig intentionally by pretending the guilty is solid

it really is interesting how scum like to scumclaim. the people who are simply being foolish and not interpreting the report correctly and the info available are obvious and those being bad faith to remove the vig are also clear.


Malcom confirmed himself as scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think FL having claimed his ability in the monastery at night is potentially a sign he’s town
Ducks/cass, thoughts?

I also clearly softed my role Day 1 and I’ve given multiple links.

Here’s the thing, both scum teams 100% need to get me out today, so I have members of both scum teams pushing me here.

The guilty is just not a guilty. I claimed my role before the guilty.

Anybody trying to use a “likelihood” of it being a fake claim, I actively claimed BEFORE the guilty.

Like i see people going like only 1 slot if town isn’t people shifting the weight.

Me actively claiming and sorting in Day 1 prior to the guilty flat out destroys the action.


This is a mix of both scum teams trying to get the person who had the best reads out of the game, the one who has the possibility to kill them, and townies who are just voting to vote.

Like, it’s blatantly obvious this is the scenario.

[Flavor Leaf]

FL already claimed vig so there’s only one town slot he could be. However he could still be any of the four mafia slots plus any werewolf slot with a gun.

Yes, but when that town slot is like a 95% likelihood to the outside, it weighs heavily.

You actively proved my claim, yet you’re minimizing it because you just want to believe you have a guilty but you don’t.

I actively softed Day 1. And claimed in the Night. Me claiming prior to the guilty is just like…come on.

There’s absolutely no way that happens here if I were scum

[Flavor Leaf]

If you’re using something that’s just pushed away by gambler’s fallacy, you’re also ignoring the fact i have less chance of being scum than majority of other players thanks to the monastery.

MonkeyMan is abusing gamblers fallacy when they want to push it in their favor but not the other way around.

[Flavor Leaf]

CSF will flip Mafia based on VCA, and then I’d have caught a member of both teams, + correctly town read a town.

Most of my wagon is scum, though. Easily 3 on me.

[Flavor Leaf]

It is impossible that scum on the Mafia side wasn’t on Catboi.

Toogeloo, TicTac, Mega, Cat Scratch were the 4 who got on and bounced off.

Mega and TicTac are Masons. Toogeloo flipped town.

It’s 100% CSF.

[Save The Dragons]

don't take my word for it, CSF crumbed it here:

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[MonkeyMan576]

It’s not a fallacy mafia is a game of probability.

[SCP 682]

Weird i thought it was a social deduction game

[MonkeyMan576]

It’s both