In post 6039, Menalque wrote:Last thing is to address once more why pooky is scum
Namely, the problem is not that he didn’t try to kill baltar on D2 and didn’t blow him up on N1, it’s that his read on Baltar TOTALLY DISAPPEARED despite having a very solid foundation
In fact, not only did it disappear, but he started townreading baltar for being selected as defuser twice and argued that he shouldn’t be limmed because of it... while st the same time arguing that baltar was best sorted by being blown up instead of limmed! He kept this up until baltar was in a position where he was going down, at which point he switched to bussing him, despite the fact that the alternative was someone he was previously UTTERLY CONVINCED was scum, to the point that he said that even if baltar was scum, dwlee still shouldn’t be allowed to defuse later on — yet baltar had to be limmed first despite pooky’s standing townread on him that came out of nowhere
In post 6040, Menalque wrote:Pooky has clearly had plenty of time to be in thread the last couple of days. Look at how he’s used it. Instead of spending any time looking for scum — and nobody is asking him to case, I agree that’s shitty to do on mobile — but he’s not even trying! — he’s decided to get into a multipage argument with someone he thinks is town. He’s done his absolute best to have that engagement in a heated and unpleasant way, probably to make people not want to be in or engage with the thread. We all know pooky is capable of being very nice when he engages. His unpleasantness here is strategic.
He’s continued to endlessly belabour the same couple of points, even when it’s been explained why I’m not willing to talk about them right there (see: why I wasn’t prepared to tell him the main points of my argument against him and how it’s different from the defence he’s been trying to give). This is not a town mindset or group of behaviours. This is scum desperately trying to survive and to mess up the thread. I think it’s very damning that he needs me limmed to stand a chance (I was definitely in the group of planned mislims that scum were counting on to get to elo) and has managed to contrive a way to vote me (enhancing the goal of trying to get me limmed) while still insisting I’m town.
How often, ask yourself, have you seen town intentionally vote two players they think are town, vote themselves, and refuse to scumhunt at all when the game is building toward a probably winning but not quite clear elo? Now, ask yourself how often you’ve seen scum do that? I rest my case
For pagetop d8
Posted: Sun May 01, 2022 3:37 am
by Enchant
Remind me, why Mena even wagoned?
Posted: Sun May 01, 2022 4:01 am
by Datisi
vote count 7.final
with
8
votes in play, it took
5
to make a decision.
day 7 ended.
3
players who have the most nominations will be bomb experts on n7.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2022 5:36 am
by Datisi
Posted: Sun May 01, 2022 5:36 am
by Datisi
Menalque has been executed day 7. he was a
DATS Inc. non-consecutive night babysitter
.
Spoiler:
bomb experts are:
Bell
Andante
Enchant
twilight 7 starts now and ends in
(expired on 2022-05-02 18:45:00)
.
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 6:24 am
by Datisi
final bomb squad is:
experts:
Bell
Andante
Enchant
defuser:
GuiltyLion
the information for the defuser and experts will be going out shortly. night 7 starts now and ends in
(expired on 2022-05-04 20:00:00)
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:28 am
by Datisi
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:28 am
by Datisi
a new workday starts. everyone is alive to see it.
it is now day 8.
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:32 am
by Datisi
vote count 8.00
with
7
votes in play, it takes
4
to make a decision.
day 8 ends in
(expired on 2022-05-14 20:45:00)
.
2
players who have the most nominations will be bomb experts on n8.
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:33 am
by Dwlee99
HEAL: Guiltylion
GL is conftown
Bell is basically conftown
VOTE: Pooky
Andante/Enchant very town
CSF town by play
Leaves pooky
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:35 am
by Andante
VOTE: Enchant [/v]
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:35 am
by Andante
VOTE: Enchant
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:35 am
by Enchant
VOTE: Andante
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:37 am
by Dwlee99
What
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:37 am
by Dwlee99
Can y'all use your words lmao
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:37 am
by GuiltyLion
lmao Enchant you trickster you
He basically refused to give info the whole night and I was all set to die, and kinda had POE'd my way back to him, then he submitted his solve at the last second
Unless this is galaxy brain wifom stuff from a losing position (in which case we could still lim him tomorrow), I kinda feel like that points to Pooky?? Not gonna lie I'm really still feeling like no solve feels good or correct
Andante you think Enchant is just trying to stall the inevitable? What good does it do to troll all night and then save me at the last second?
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:38 am
by GuiltyLion
Dwlee a lot of my reservations with Pooky are around D1, I don't feel like he seems aligned with Baltar or MT. Have you looked at those?
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:39 am
by Enchant
What? You thinked i would just say "Well makes sense" and just submit? Where's fun in that.
Nothing lost from pressuring you a bit more.
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:41 am
by GuiltyLion
Maybe I'm a fool but I struggle to see why scum in the hood last night would save me
Andante even gave her solve before Enchant was openly refusing to give his
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:43 am
by Dwlee99
I have not looked at those, no. I can though.
I think that associatives are something that can be very manipulated into a favorable position though, especially by someone like Pooky. I mean you might recall me going "I don't think Koba busses VP this early" and well... yea
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:44 am
by GuiltyLion
Yeah, it's just that to me they almost look like he wasn't manipulating them, if that makes sense? Like he could have distanced harder and he didn't, MT straight up ignored him, etc. It feels like an absence of necessary attempts at theater
I do want to respect Menalques point about how Pookys VPB read evaporated, though
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:46 am
by Dwlee99
I kinda agree. I wish we had more time yesterday to get more Pooky content
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:59 am
by GuiltyLion
yeah, I want Pooky to rock my world today with a real scumread and case
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 8:23 am
by Bell
VOTE: Pookythemagicalbear
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 8:37 am
by GuiltyLion
so scum has used 2 kills
we know they should have had at least 4 (1 at gamestart, 2 from VPB defuses, 1 from GL+Andante regardless of Andante's alignment), there's a world where Andante is scum where they have 5.
nearly certainly at least one was saved between all the protectives/JKing in the first few nights
is it worth trying to speculate what happened to the other one?