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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:02 pm
by nancy
Hi Elbirn. How are you?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:17 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 6073, nancy wrote:5937, 5932, 5920, 5864, 5851, 5843, 5825, 5790.... not going to keep going :P
So in reality this is just a neatly disguised OMGUS since apparently any posts about me disliking that you wouldn't explain your scum read on me in "manipulation".

Tell me why I should have not thought it was scummy that you wouldn't back up your statement that my ISO was bad?

Also 5790? Its like you are just listing posts without even thinking about them.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:29 pm
by nancy
6707 is just another example and now you're edging into just shading. I have no idea how you believe that you can think me replacing into a thread an scumreading you is anything remotely like OMGUS. All of the posts I linked contain subtle tonal manipulation where you twist either a question or a statement into having limited interpretations that serve you and your argument. It's perfectly fine for you find it scummy of me for not backing up a read with substantive content but threatening me with a scumread if I didn't do what you wanted and making underhanded comments about my motives is plainly manipulative and does not come from an unbiased Town mentality. You want to find the worst and you find it.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:36 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 6077, nancy wrote:It's perfectly fine for you find it scummy of me for not backing up a read with substantive content but threatening me with a scumread if I didn't do what you wanted and making underhanded comments about my motives is plainly manipulative and does not come from an unbiased Town mentality.
So I can scumread you but when I explain why I'm scumreading you and what I think you are doing its manipulation? I was also already scumreading your slot and its not like I was like "hey explain or I'm going to start scumreading you."

You called my ISO scummy, I asked you why and you went X ammount of time not explaining it. Why should I have not thought you were stalling?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:44 pm
by nancy
It's manipulation because you ask your questions and point your statements in an insincere way. You attempt to force your interpetation of things onto others and the only way for them to answer you is to accept those terms or seem to be defending themselves. By artificially manufacturing a context where they are scum or where they hold X position you make any response they make seem scummy or their position weak. Your tone suggests that you have no real interest in conversation because you only want them to say what you want to hear. Anything that doesn't follow this is considered scummy. Suggesting that I was stalling is just ludicrous.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:53 pm
by Nero Cain
Isn't saying that my posts are "insincere" just as manipulative?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:03 pm
by Nero Cain
and if manipulation is scummy to you why are A+N, Dave, and Uzi not scum reads for you? That "ABR ruined the the Yuri wagon and town cohesion" that they are pushing seems super manipulative.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:08 pm
by MathBlade
In post 6069, nancy wrote:MathBlade do you hate townblocs this game? Because from what I can see Town is all over the place and we need to get our act into gear and start hanging scumfucks.
I hate townblocs almost every game.
Especially since Titus tried to form one with like all of my scumreads.

Who would you put in it?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:09 pm
by MathBlade
Unless you are right it is a popularity contest and at that point things go so far down hill.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:11 pm
by Nero Cain
this whole game is a popularity contest

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:11 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 6068, Nero Cain wrote:Why did you and Titus create a new hydra for this game? What does RC have to do with anything? Did you guys fight in Thing mafia?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:12 pm
by nancy
@Nero No, it isn't.

Because my reads are not based on a single criterion.


@Math Atm I'm not too sure beyond you, Caesar, and Senpai. My reads aren't solid enough yet. We really need to start doing some serious organizing, though. I couldn't care less about popularity contests, that's not what townblocs are.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:15 pm
by MathBlade
In post 6085, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6068, Nero Cain wrote:Why did you and Titus create a new hydra for this game? What does RC have to do with anything? Did you guys fight in Thing mafia?
This hydra was one that got made because I was an original secret part of a hydra.

Even wrote a post that said "I am Titus" or something like that.

We used this one because the other had bad memories and an easier password.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:15 pm
by MathBlade
In post 6086, nancy wrote:@Nero No, it isn't.

Because my reads are not based on a single criterion.


@Math Atm I'm not too sure beyond you, Caesar, and Senpai. My reads aren't solid enough yet. We really need to start doing some serious organizing, though. I couldn't care less about popularity contests, that's not what townblocs are.
I could do that.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:45 pm
by Akane and Nebby
lol LUV being manipulative.
That's cute.
-Nebby

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:17 pm
by MathBlade
In post 6089, Akane and Nebby wrote:lol LUV being manipulative.
That's cute.
-Nebby
I think A&N is a good pick too.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:20 pm
by Akane and Nebby
In post 6090, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6089, Akane and Nebby wrote:lol LUV being manipulative.
That's cute.
-Nebby
I think A&N is a good pick too.
Pick for?
-Nebby

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:21 pm
by MathBlade
Townblock nancy wants.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:00 pm
by nancy
Townbloc Town needs.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:21 pm
by nancy
I'm pining for august.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:45 pm
by Vecna
In post 6014, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5950, Vecna wrote:Ive provided plenty of material this game for your read to be based on other stuff that isnt gu
yes you have but that doesn't make my reason that I had a gut scum read on you and then you tried to laugh it off (and I think thats a scummy reaction) any less valid. Also your self vote is just scum
ATE
. Like if you were really concerned with sheep voting and junk you'd be wary as hell of the Cesar and ABR wagons.
The opposition to the abr wagon is rather telling actually.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:49 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 6095, Vecna wrote:
In post 6014, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5950, Vecna wrote:Ive provided plenty of material this game for your read to be based on other stuff that isnt gu
yes you have but that doesn't make my reason that I had a gut scum read on you and then you tried to laugh it off (and I think thats a scummy reaction) any less valid. Also your self vote is just scum
ATE
. Like if you were really concerned with sheep voting and junk you'd be wary as hell of the Cesar and ABR wagons.
The opposition to the abr wagon is rather telling actually.
Who is the scum not bussing ABR and who are the town misreading him?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:52 pm
by Vecna
In post 6022, Maxous wrote:
In post 5993, Vecna wrote:
In post 5957, Maxous wrote:I'm not enthused of following the same block that strong-armed beeboy.
The block that strongarmed beeboy consisted of people that are either abr (up for lynch) or have replaced out.

Try again
Washing your hands of the beeboy lynch does not sit well with me.
At all
Gimme a break
VOTE: Vecna
I was voting abr, and pushing everybody to do the same. Both me and deo wanted abr.

I did indicate willingness to compromise if abr wagon would die but mostly to wake people up to abr scum and to keep the townblock intact.

And yes, beboy got strongarmed in the night while i wasnt around. So you using this to vote mr with this bukshit reasoning only strengthens my naughty read on you.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:55 pm
by Vecna
In post 6032, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 6002, Vecna wrote:Good, because these overlap strongly with my scumreads and me and luv are actually town.
What is your townread on LUV based on?
Already explained in great detail. Strong meta observations from my last game where i was scum with luv.

Maxous and math should be fully aware of this as well but are choosing to not see it or ingerpret it completely different for i dont know what reasoning.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:56 pm
by Nahdia
bump or whatever