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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:47 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 6072, ofrhz wrote:I just realized, isn’t today actually lylo because mastina is hated? And not mylo
Doesn't that assume that she's town

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:50 am
by ofrhz
If she’s town today is lylo but if she’s not then it’s not. Point is we don’t know tho

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:53 am
by ofrhz
The only reason we would no lynch today is if we’re sure mastina is scum (at which point why would we no lynch)

Because town mastina would get insta hammered in 3p

Right?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:55 am
by RadiantCowbells
Left.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:58 am
by ofrhz
Center?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:01 am
by RadiantCowbells
Should I be looking for scum or shitposting

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:09 am
by Ankamius
am I dead yet

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:28 am
by RadiantCowbells
No but I think you're pretty cute.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:00 am
by mastina
In post 5938, ofrhz wrote:I doubt last scum is Ausuka? I know Jingle said that if PP flipped not-RB, then it'd be 90% ausuka, but I am also inclined to believe Ausuka's cop claim because including a godfather without a cop is kinda ??? And I kinda don't think PP would fakeclaim to get us to spam to 200 pages if he didn't believe Ausuka's cop claim
PenguinPower was dead by that point by being caught fakeclaiming scum; Ausuka claimed roleblocked after that anyway which seems counterproductive to that; xyzzy absolutely IS the sort of mod who would include a godfather without a cop.

That being said: these don't make Ausuka the last scum.
But they are reasons to not autoclear Ausuka from being scum.

This game literally has no deadline.

If it takes us a whole fucking year to solve the game, we can take a whole fucking year to solve the game. (Yes, I know, xyzzy said that if the game stalled sufficiently there
would
be a deadline implemented, but if we spent a whole year productively trying to solve it, approaching it from multiple angles, then no need for that deadline.)

So we have all the time in the world to figure it out, assuming we actually spend that time to figure it out and don't just mess around.

Still PRETTY sure the RC hydra's town tho.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:01 am
by mastina
In post 5947, Bitmap wrote:
In post 5944, ofrhz wrote:Would it be a good idea to confirm my role today? Since we're still looking for a RB
It's mylo? Aren't you guys no lynching today?
Considering my hated status doesn't go away...no, we're lynching because today's lylo.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:01 am
by mastina
In post 5964, RadiantCowbells wrote:Hey Mastina we had a JoAT component to our role. If you're town, why did you lie about your role and why did you not claim earlier?
I didn't; stop fucking around.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:02 am
by mastina
In post 5967, the worst wrote:guys I just worked out who teh scumz are
If you were actually serious, then I'd listen to this btw.

Sadly I know you're not. :(

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:04 am
by Ankamius
In post 6082, RadiantCowbells wrote:No but I think you're pretty cute.
nou

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:09 am
by mastina
In post 6051, RadiantCowbells wrote:
HOW CAN WE SOLVE THIS GAME?
Same way you solve any other game, really.

PenguinPower was confscum D4 and claimed a guilty on Pine D3; we won't have valid analysis from those days. (Well, post-guilty-claim anyway.)
EeveeLution Army was soft-guiltied by me for the first half of D2 but this wasn't a hard guilty and wasn't actually a guilty at all and given that, we can analyze D2 for EeveeLution Army...plus, on top of that? We can analyze all of D1, and for D2 we can also look at PenguinPower.

We can look not only at what the flipped scum were doing, but what the living players were doing in relationship to the flipped scum.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:10 am
by mastina
In post 6061, RadiantCowbells wrote:where tf are mastina and ausuka
Busy and sick for a couple of days.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:11 am
by mastina
In post 6066, Ausuka wrote:hi am alive but overworked

rc if scum has already won because he's the highest on mastina's randomized list so i guess this is mastina or orfhz. And I have literally zero idea how to read mastina's player this game because she's been pushing p much the same agenda regardless of alignment so I guess that means I try to read ofrhz?
Can I say my inclination here is that Ausuka is scum because Ausuka didn't mention a result?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:11 am
by Ausuka
In post 6090, mastina wrote:
In post 6066, Ausuka wrote:hi am alive but overworked

rc if scum has already won because he's the highest on mastina's randomized list so i guess this is mastina or orfhz. And I have literally zero idea how to read mastina's player this game because she's been pushing p much the same agenda regardless of alignment so I guess that means I try to read ofrhz?
Can I say my inclination here is that Ausuka is scum because Ausuka didn't mention a result?
why would i mention a result when i wasn't able to get any last night?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:13 am
by mastina
In post 6091, Ausuka wrote:
In post 6090, mastina wrote:
In post 6066, Ausuka wrote:hi am alive but overworked

rc if scum has already won because he's the highest on mastina's randomized list so i guess this is mastina or orfhz. And I have literally zero idea how to read mastina's player this game because she's been pushing p much the same agenda regardless of alignment so I guess that means I try to read ofrhz?
Can I say my inclination here is that Ausuka is scum because Ausuka didn't mention a result?
why would i mention a result when i wasn't able to get any last night?
Didn't we specifically end the day on the requisite number of people to allow you to investigate?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:14 am
by Ausuka
In post 6092, mastina wrote:
In post 6091, Ausuka wrote:
In post 6090, mastina wrote:
In post 6066, Ausuka wrote:hi am alive but overworked

rc if scum has already won because he's the highest on mastina's randomized list so i guess this is mastina or orfhz. And I have literally zero idea how to read mastina's player this game because she's been pushing p much the same agenda regardless of alignment so I guess that means I try to read ofrhz?
Can I say my inclination here is that Ausuka is scum because Ausuka didn't mention a result?
why would i mention a result when i wasn't able to get any last night?
Didn't we specifically end the day on the requisite number of people to allow you to investigate?
no?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:23 am
by mastina
In post 2272, EeveeLution Army wrote:Ugg i dont like how nomnom lynched me there. They dont even know the extent of mastinas powers. Im not scum and im certainly not confirmed scum based on a pr that doesnt even get technical results. How dare you say its a guilty if theres multipe ways it isnt.
Can I say that this probably means scum wholeheartedly 100% believed that I was a masonizer?
In post 2290, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 2240, Ausuka wrote:Ok I'm fine with getting vigged if this flips town.
65% of the time this is town purely off this tbh. To trust in your read no matter how shortsighted enough to die for it. Its everything i stand for. Pure and utter loyalty
Noticed this; I'm a little bit sketchy of it. Why would Ausuka post if she had a guilty on Eevee at the time?
In post 2520, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 2518, RadiantCowbells wrote:ela's not responding like falsely guiltied town btw.
what do u mean ?
1)its not even a guilty
2)as town if someone claims cop and gets u turboed its a 1 for 1 trade which isnt bad for town, but i dont think mastinas scum so this is mute.
3)im just here to have fun, no need to panic over a misunderstanding
In post 2929, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 2923, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm not 100% that ELA is scum but they're not doing anything so
ive already defended myself, its not my fault people still want me dead.
This kinda reinforces my townread on RC here; this interaction doesn't look scum-scum to me.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:27 am
by Ausuka
In post 6094, mastina wrote:Why would Ausuka post 2240 if she had a guilty on Eevee at the time?
because i was fine with getting vigged if eevee flipped town because i knew that wouldn't happen.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:31 am
by Ausuka
considering that there was a gf would ausuka!scum not be even a little afraid that, like, mastina was a hated cop? i probably wouldn't claim cop in that scenario unless i was informed and informed roleblocker sounds weird.

xyzzy isn't the type of mod to put a GF in a setup with no cop. their trolls, when they exist, tend to be less subtle and more brick-on-the-head, like jesters or multiple dayvigs.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:32 am
by mastina
Just quoting this to point out: EeveeLution Army's iso is utterly devoid of any sort of actual content. There's basically no votes, there's basically no scumhunting, there's basically nothing in there whatsoever. Just nothingness.

And PenguinPower is literally the exact same way.

This obviously doesn't apply to the hydra (because between all the heads,
someone
among them would effort as scum), but it might just be the case that we can find and identify the third scum by the metric of "Who contributed the absolute least amount over the longest period of time".

It's also relevant to PenguinPower's actual real role. PenguinPower's actual real role wasn't dependent on
his
posting being under a specific content threshold; it was dependent on
his team
's posting being under a specific threshold.
In post 3136, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 3125, ofrhz wrote:Yo what’s happenin
How has PP still not claimed
Kinda unfortunate for him but we know he read this page at the very least and someone mentioned that we’re waiting for him to claim zzzz
Yes, because seeing a mod post that a player repped back in is the same as reading the game. I'm usually inactive on weekends so sorry for the delay.

I'm a town 100 page tracker (as long as I don't have 10% of the posts) 200 page watcher (as long as I don't have 5% of the posts) 1000 page next day innocent child (as long I don't have 3% of the posts).

I tracked Pine last night and saw him visit nomnomnom.
Kinda think this might indicate ofrhz is town, actually?
In post 5481, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 5470, RadiantCowbells wrote:why me fry me etc
can we lynch PP now
I'd prefer you didn't.
And this definitely indicates RC as town.
In post 5489, ofrhz wrote:Can we vote PP now
In post 5490, PenguinPower wrote:I'd prefer you didn't.
This too indicates ofhrz as not as likely scum.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:33 am
by Ankamius
I'm the last scum

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:34 am
by mastina
In post 6096, Ausuka wrote:considering that there was a gf would ausuka!scum not be even a little afraid that, like, mastina was a hated cop? i probably wouldn't claim cop in that scenario unless i was informed and informed roleblocker sounds weird.
Problem; by the time you claimed cop, I had already claimed.

I claimed that my full role was hated townie here; your cop claim didn't happen until after that, here.