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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:12 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 6074, shellyc wrote:What do you want me to do?
It's not really what i wanted you to do. I just commented that i find it sus how you keep AtE'ing. I'd expect town in your position to suggests alternatives for scum and convince why you're townie this game. Rather than putting out this emotional manipulation of: "i'm town but ready to die." "GOOD LUCK TOWN!" "I SWING MY FINAL FAREWELL AND MAY THE SCUM HUNT BE EVER IN YOUR FAVOUR DEAR FELLOW TOWN INDIVIDUALS!" etc.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:13 am
by Nero Cain
shelly, I've said that the mod has told our hood that scum was 5 players. We've eliminated Gamma so they are now @ 4. Why is your POE 5 players? Do you not believe me?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:13 am
by Bell
In post 6075, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6074, shellyc wrote:What do you want me to do?
It's not really what i wanted you to do. I just commented that i find it sus how you keep AtE'ing. I'd expect town in your position to suggests alternatives for scum and convince why you're townie this game. Rather than putting out this emotional manipulation of: "i'm town but ready to die." "GOOD LUCK TOWN!" "I SWING MY FINAL FAREWELL AND MAY THE SCUM HUNT BE EVER IN YOUR FAVOUR DEAR FELLOW TOWN INDIVIDUALS!" etc.
I enjoy this regardless of what her flip ends up being.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:15 am
by shellyc
In post 6076, Nero Cain wrote:shelly, I've said that the mod has told our hood that scum was 5 players. We've eliminated Gamma so they are now @ 4. Why is your POE 5 players? Do you not believe me?
my poe is 5 players because if one of them flips town the other is scum.

DS is prob the "backup" there

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:18 am
by Nero Cain
I feel like "oh woe is my eliminate me to better the poe!" is townieish. sure there's the "she's just scum being LAMIST" but eh...

Ima yell @ a50 to just hurry up and shoot someone

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:02 am
by Bell
Nero do you think Shelly is scum?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:06 am
by Nero Cain
ummmm....y r u asking me that when my feelings are like a post above yours.

+ It's me I wear my heart on my sleeve and blab anything that comes to mind.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:12 am
by NorwegianboyEE
We’re quite similar in that respect i’d say.
Maybe that’s why i feel like i can read Nero easy.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:20 am
by Bell
Wasn't super clear to me. *shrug*

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:46 am
by Almost50
I was going to post this in the PTs, but so fit to share it with you all:

I did a reread of Gamma's ISO, and this I noticed:

Gamma did NOT talk to shelly, Chemist or ddl AT ALL

Gamma mostly talked to confirmed townies (using the term loosely, so the 3Ps also fit)

I believe I can TOTALLY exclude Bell, S_S, Math & jjh from being Army based on the interaction AND the "layout" of Gamma's ISO

I am most confident shelly, Chemist & ddl are indeed scum with Gamma

This leaves a fourth in the pool of: Taylor > TGP > DS >>>> Pickaxe (strength based on how Gamma talked to them as well as their stance on the wagon)

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:58 am
by Almost50
Here's final request before I end the day (for real)!

I want everybody to NOT argue too much, but to tell ne if they think it better to execute ddl (the sure thing) or go for shelly/Chemist (and the reason would be to give the Society the chance of being all on ddl, because they all agree he's scum too).

AGAIN: FOR THOSE ASKING ABOUT THE SOCIETY WINCON. ALL THREE NEED TO BE ON 2 SCUM WAGONS. THEY WERE ALL IN GAMMA, so they need another one, They also need to AVOID being on more than one town wagon, and they've already exhausted that by being on April. They CANNOT afford to be on another miselimination, and they need to be on a SCUM elimination, so I would like to give them ddl.

Remember: Do NOT "argue" too much. Be brief and precise if you please. Thank you

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:00 am
by Almost50
In post 6042, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6016, Nero Cain wrote:reaction tests are so 2010. Its 2020 Math, get with the times brotha.
So what’s 2020 known for? Anime avatar invasion?
Covid-19

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:01 am
by Almost50
In post 6048, NorwegianboyEE wrote:U sound kinda LAMISTY Shelly.
True that. She's overplaying that card now.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:03 am
by Almost50
In post 6053, Bell wrote:Fwiw, played with scum shelly twice.
Not sure if scum here.
I am like 80% confident she is (which is the weakest of the 3 I call "confirmed scum")

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:04 am
by superbowl9
In post 6085, Almost50 wrote:Here's final request before I end the day (for real)!

I want everybody to NOT argue too much, but to tell ne if they think it better to execute ddl (the sure thing) or go for shelly/Chemist (and the reason would be to give the Society the chance of being all on ddl, because they all agree he's scum too).

AGAIN: FOR THOSE ASKING ABOUT THE SOCIETY WINCON. ALL THREE NEED TO BE ON 2 SCUM WAGONS. THEY WERE ALL IN GAMMA, so they need another one, They also need to AVOID being on more than one town wagon, and they've already exhausted that by being on April. They CANNOT afford to be on another miselimination, and they need to be on a SCUM elimination, so I would like to give them ddl.

Remember: Do NOT "argue" too much. Be brief and precise if you please. Thank you
DO NOT EXECUTE OUTSIDE THE CONF GROUP UNLESS YOU DENY BASIC MATH OR ARE TRYING TO LOSE THE GAME

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:05 am
by Bell
I have no objections. Sounds good.
Good work. Even if wrong, the effort is appreciated.

Barring PR clear or shenanigans consider my vote on DDL tomorrow.
I don't think Gamma would not talk to all of his scum partners. Given the warm up phase, I think 2 of 3 is safish to assume. But that's kinda wifomy. So neverrmind.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:06 am
by Almost50
In post 6065, shellyc wrote:i wouldn't usually slack off as town but I'm really apathetic and kinda helpless really that I'm on a cliff and am ready to be pushed off
Image

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:06 am
by Bell
Er, or not on DDL tomorrow to make room for the council folk.
Unless we don't wanna.
I'm very community minded.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:07 am
by Almost50
In post 6069, shellyc wrote:i don't think A50s the kind of person to execute a claimed PR.
Watch me. :wink:

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:08 am
by Bell
Like I said, I'll happily step back from any bad reads I have.
Shellyc isn't superstrong. So I won't get in the way.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:08 am
by superbowl9
In post 6092, Bell wrote:Er, or not on DDL tomorrow to make room for the council folk.
Unless we don't wanna.
I'm very community minded.
Agreed that we have an easy DDL elim tomorrow so it makes sense to go within PP/jjh, unless you majorly townread them A50 in which case go DDL.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:10 am
by superbowl9
^Let me reiterate that NONE of what ive said is reads based it is mathematically CONFIRMED the best course of action to catch scum

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:12 am
by MathBlade
In post 6085, Almost50 wrote:Here's final request before I end the day (for real)!

I want everybody to NOT argue too much, but to tell ne if they think it better to execute ddl (the sure thing) or go for shelly/Chemist (and the reason would be to give the Society the chance of being all on ddl, because they all agree he's scum too).

AGAIN: FOR THOSE ASKING ABOUT THE SOCIETY WINCON. ALL THREE NEED TO BE ON 2 SCUM WAGONS. THEY WERE ALL IN GAMMA, so they need another one, They also need to AVOID being on more than one town wagon, and they've already exhausted that by being on April. They CANNOT afford to be on another miselimination, and they need to be on a SCUM elimination, so I would like to give them ddl.

Remember: Do NOT "argue" too much. Be brief and precise if you please. Thank you
Here’s the issue with that.

You’re acting as if you have solved the game before the flips have happened yet.

Let’s assume for just a moment that whoever you shoot is town, how do your reads change?

You’re acting like it’s a foregone conclusion.

I get you are REALLY confident but that’s we’re fuck ups happen.

If you’re really determined to shoot in Shelly/Chemist I would focus where we agree and shoot Shelly rather than differ for this reason but overall I prefer DDL. Just in case things are fucked.

Mainly I am Mr. Pessimist over here trying to be a realist. Don’t get me wrong I agree with almost everything you’ve said (except the interaction bit and setup spec). I just would want us to be in the best possible place.

That means imho shoot DDL
If scum we have a few other places of agreement to start from.
If town we know we need to focus on PickAxe/JJH and can figure out what happened.

Also leaving DDL until tomorrow gives scum a place to hide imho.

But as always you do you. If you shoot in Shelly/Chemist I see the reasoning I am just way more conservative.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:14 am
by superbowl9
Math he said brief which means everyone other than math and mastina are allowed to respond

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:16 am
by MathBlade
In post 6098, superbowl9 wrote:Math he said brief which means everyone other than math and mastina are allowed to respond
Sorry :( Shutting up now :(