KTaNE [game over!]

[GuiltyLion]

cause I definitely don't think scum should or would be holstering shots at this point, they need to kill as many townies as they can here

[Dwlee99]

I think Bell was shot at N2

[Dwlee99]

That or Pooky N1 (less likely)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't know.

I have to sit down and do my re-read of the game.

I've been busy all week and the weekend is packed so I'll probably get some time to actually re-read monday-wednesday.

we have 8 days of deadline there is no rush - let's not fumble at the 3 yard line cuz we happened to have 1 scum left.

It's actually amazing that I say this to Mena and his response is to rush his own elim thru to try to kamikaze bomb me and accuse me of not being solvy when I literally told him I would solve on the weekday cuz weekend is not good for me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's truly some stellar play that I haven't seen since maybe 2005

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think Bell was shot at N2

Why do you actually think this? Like what's the incentive to shoot Bell N2 instead of say N1.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lmao Enchant you trickster you

He basically refused to give info the whole night and I was all set to die, and kinda had POE'd my way back to him, then he submitted his solve at the last second

Unless this is galaxy brain wifom stuff from a losing position (in which case we could still lim him tomorrow), I kinda feel like that points to Pooky?? Not gonna lie I'm really still feeling like no solve feels good or correct

Andante you think Enchant is just trying to stall the inevitable? What good does it do to troll all night and then save me at the last second?

um wouldn't the obvious answer be that he chickened out of blowing you up at the last second cuz he thinks he gets limmed very quickly if you blow up with your finger pointing at him?

[GuiltyLion]

that is the obvious answer but it doesn't actually help him, right? let's say we lim you today and you flip town, how does he not go next?

I guess if Enchant is scum he's in a tight spot no matter what so maybe I shouldn't say it's especially town-indicative, but it seems strictly worse for scum that I'm alive and conftown here than if I were dead. in the PT I was thinking it didn't matter if I flipped or not because I thought there'd be a kill tonight, but if they didn't have an NK to use then 7 alive with a conftown is way better than 6 alive. We've bought an extra miselim even if we blow up every bomb

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if you blow up he just goes today no?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

playing scum is just about surviving one day at a time

you don't actually need a master plan to go all the way to the end

I usually just wing it

[Andante]

what's the case against voting out enchant? they're playing exactly as I would expect scum!enchant to play

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I never finished my reread yesterday but I'll restart from day 3 with mena and gl flip in mind tonight when I'm off work

Also holy shit you hood people have nerves of steel!

[GuiltyLion]

honestly I was surprised people were willing to defuse the bomb, if I were them I don't think I would have done it. guess I might have a chance to find out tonight hah

[GuiltyLion]

I've reread pages 1-50 prior to Mena flip and then reread some of Enchant in ISO overnight, but haven't done a proper reread of 50+ onwards. I do want to do that during this day phase especially since I feel like I gotta really tryhard now that I'm conf

[Enchant]

what's the case against voting out enchant? they're playing exactly as I would expect scum!enchant to play

Expert speaking.

You ALWAYS scumread me.
In every game.

As town, you just do.
As scum, you pretend you do.


So you are last person mind considered here, atleast by me.

[GuiltyLion]

also, whoever that was like "all 4 maf said we elected defusers" like... why would only the maf say it?? if I see something being said here, I'll roll with it, like if yall are saying we're electing defusers, I'll say it too, doesn't make me scum, sure 3 of the maf said it, but ehhh not sure I buy that only all 4 maf said it

Hold up I found another Andante Inconsistency (if this were any other player I'd be lock tunneled on them but with Andante I guess I could see it from town...)

Dwlee check the first page of the N6 hood again. In there, on April 25th, Andante said she "loved" CSFs case about potentially all four mafia misunderstanding the set up and making the same defuser mistake, and says she thinks Mena is mafia. But then three days later, she's questioning the case and saying she doesn't buy it?

Again am I wrong to think this stuff means Andante shouldn't endgame?? Its hard for me to trust with certainty that her posts/beliefs are genuine when she 180s so dramatically without even acknowledging it

[GuiltyLion]

Actually yeah CSF you were in that hood too - Does town!Andante forget that she already agreed with you on the case just a few days ago? And forget that you were the one who said it?

[GuiltyLion]

I think overall it's hard for me to ignore that 7 alive is so much better for town than 6 alive rn, it makes me think Enchant/Andante should ne off the table today

[GuiltyLion]

Also I am thinking, if you're scum expert, and you pick me to defuse and then save me, your goal would be to pocket me so hard that I let you endgame, right? If they didn't have a kill why not blow me up, I'm the only person you can plausibly blow up strictly for mech paranoia reasons. But now I'm also conftown and someone you need to kill if you want a better ELO just by the numbers. It's just really hard for me to see this as a pro scum move

[GuiltyLion]

I'm gonna do the reread but at the moment I think my main goal is gonna be to sanity check that I should be safely townreading Dwlee/CSF, and then prob vote Pooky assuming I still think those two are town. If scum!Enchant yolo saved last night that can be a 5p concern. And if scum!Andante she can't put herself as defuser tonight because I will blow her up so she has to blow up either a POE candidate or kill them if she wants to get rid of two townies tonight and we put a consensus townread as the other expert

[GuiltyLion]

We should probably think about the merits of making me expert vs not making me expert btw. Too lazy to think at all about it yet but there may be merit to the idea if we can restrict scums defuser options

[Bell]

It’s not Dwlee. Posts are too natural.
It’s not CSF. There are too many posts.

Sanity checked’d.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's not me

I'm too fun to be scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also I would've totally defused like 7 bombs by now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Maybe this is one of those games where you just flip the table over and flip the most townread person cuz that's where the deepest wolf is