Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 2:37 pm
I mean, its not spite spite like I dislike you so much that I'm intentionally ignoring the game to spite you just that I don't trust that your mena read is truthful.
There was a masonry based vig in the original run of the setup theme so lolIn post 6074, Nero Cain wrote:this really irks me. Like what do you know about the games balance?In post 6007, MalcolmTucker wrote:I agree Flavor is likely mafia on balance of things
there's a flipped town voyer
a flipped wolf bookie
2 claimed 1x gs
a vt claim
a parity cop claim
a monkery and a masonary.
I might be forgetting some claims but I don't see how a town you, with the same info as me, can determine whether or not a vig exists based on balance.
Well I think you should try reevaling if you reached similar scumreads as me for mafia after I already outted my reads there.In post 6075, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, its not spite spite like I dislike you so much that I'm intentionally ignoring the game to spite you just that I don't trust that your mena read is truthful.
You forgot the Beloved Princess claim by your top scum read.In post 6074, Nero Cain wrote:this really irks me. Like what do you know about the games balance?In post 6007, MalcolmTucker wrote:I agree Flavor is likely mafia on balance of things
there's a flipped town voyer
a flipped wolf bookie
2 claimed 1x gs
a vt claim
a parity cop claim
a monkery and a masonary.
I might be forgetting some claims but I don't see how a town you, with the same info as me, can determine whether or not a vig exists based on balance.
butter I called out d1 but I kinda got converted to it and I had a strong townread on Norwee so i thought they were town but I was willing to reconsider bc of a recent game I just finished where I misread norwee horriblyIn post 6078, Nero Cain wrote:pretty sure I was calling yd-butter scum before you did, not that I really care. My Malcolm thing is just that he was going to bat for Butterchurn and that "Boon is scum based on balance." just seems wildly dumb.
mena seems like a useless lurksack regardless of alignment so...
somehow this awoke a latent memory.In post 6084, Save The Dragons wrote:
Fire ahead. I'm town but my reads have been useless this game, struggling to get a feel for it.In post 6077, SCP 682 wrote:Well I think you should try reevaling if you reached similar scumreads as me for mafia after I already outted my reads there.In post 6075, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, its not spite spite like I dislike you so much that I'm intentionally ignoring the game to spite you just that I don't trust that your mena read is truthful.
Mena likes to be a lurkfuck as scum and loses a lot of steam as the game goes - and that's present here, and he has no fire in his play.
VOTE: Malcom
Let's do this, aight?
none gonna cc leaf and nothing gonna happen if they do.In post 5399, Nashville Dreams wrote:UNVOTE: ND
I know Mala voted a guilty claim and it's usually the right thing to do, but there are a few things that give me doubt without the guilty being fake. So I'd like to compare who wants FL dead with the VCs.
1) FL claiming at night start. While I can't see it, FL wouldn't lie there as multiple people could CC him. Well we could have a whole random neighbor bullshit but unlikely.
2) The limited kill mechanic - The amount of nightkills/heals required to believe FL is not a vig. Heals/kill stops are very unlikely n1 due to the sheer number of possible heal targets and the lack of information. At least the werewolf kill was non-existent/healed/stopped/did not occur. Given the penalty to killing, it makes it very much less likely that FL matched a scum kill target.
3) FL is consistent - Shooting someone that was impossible to eliminate despite feeling there's great evidence makes sense. It also helps his townreads.
4) Ease to lim catboi - A catboi kill, unless mafia were tunneling him all day, doesn't make sense particularly given the cost. They would know, at a minimum, there would be two slots always willing to vote catboi/RCE. Even if we supposed FL scum, he would know that a catboi elimination would always be a strategically preferred elimination.
5) Catboi alive protects FL partners - With catboi alive, it shields his teammates because of the repeated wagon unless of course FL's team was flailing like desperate chickens to eliminate catboi.
~Titus
lolIn post 5451, The Keeper wrote:For what it's worth I've taken FL out of my malefactor read.In post 5410, SCP 682 wrote:people really intentionally ignoring the fact FL claimed vig during the night phase before any of these "guilties" came out
yeaIn post 5467, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Because that's exactly what he would do if he was mafia.
this i'm ok withIn post 5519, SCP 682 wrote:Look - we will have FL shoot mastina tonight
That is how we will prove it.
OK?
In post 6078, Nero Cain wrote:mena seems like a useless lurksack regardless of alignment so...
In post 5649, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I don't buy FL's kill conditions.
from balance pow yea.In post 5674, The Keeper wrote:In post 5625, MonkeyMan576 wrote:DOesn't make sense that vig kill condition is related to possible scum being alive.That's actually a perfectly valid vig gate.In post 5626, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Like, you can kill, but if a scum player in your monastary dies you can't kill anymore?
VibeIn post 6096, Menalque wrote:This game just isn’t and hasn’t been fun for ages but I feel that repping out ruins game integrity so I’m sticking with it at minimal activity hoping that either I get limmed or that enough people get limmed that I start wanting to play again