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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:51 pm
by NanceFloor
Dance
Selectable only with an even number of players alive.
The game will have a 48 hour commercial break, in which the Mafia must pair all living players. The pairs will be announced, and town must choose a pair by majority vote. Both players in that pair will be eliminated from the game.
The Mafia cannot kill after this power
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Have you actually bothered to read this @Creature?
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:51 pm
by Creature
The power clearly says we get to lynch someone, that someone gets to vengekill and mafia can't kill that same night. I don't know what's your problem here.
The worst that can happen is we lynch scum in first try and they get to kill an obvtown, but that's still fairly good for us.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:52 pm
by Creature
Yes, it says we don't give scum a chance to NK someone after using this power. So it's vengeful.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:52 pm
by Titus
@NF, Why don't we quiz RC?
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:53 pm
by NanceFloor
Like I said, there is no good reason to ever vote venge, unless maybe for the reasons Titus proposed.
Starting to be less sure now on my Chemist sr. Maybe, it really is Creature?
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:54 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6102, Creature wrote:
Yes, it says we don't give scum a chance to NK someone after using this power. So it's vengeful.
But we already got this with dance, so your argument makes no sense.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:55 pm
by Titus
I'd feel safer quizzing you NF as we'd get you a bulletproof but we butt heads a lot. Second, if RC scum has been derailing, it's confirmed.
We got the info. Then you guys can bring me back for vca.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:56 pm
by Creature
In post 6105, NanceFloor wrote: In post 6102, Creature wrote:
Yes, it says we don't give scum a chance to NK someone after using this power. So it's vengeful.
But we already got this with dance, so your argument makes no sense.
Did it say somewhere that "Mafia cannot kill after this power" happens universally once?
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:58 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6102, Creature wrote:
Yes, it says we don't give scum a chance to NK someone after using this power. So it's vengeful.
If scum can take out an obvtown player because of venge and no kill, how is it any worse than voting lynch and scum getting a kill?
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:00 pm
by Creature
In post 6108, NanceFloor wrote: In post 6102, Creature wrote:
Yes, it says we don't give scum a chance to NK someone after using this power. So it's vengeful.
If scum can take out an obvtown player because of venge and no kill, how is it any worse than voting lynch and scum getting a kill?
Let me see:
If we lynch scum, yeah, they get to kill whoever they want.
If we lynch town, that town will get a shot to venge scum and scum won't be able to kill anyone.
It's somewhat better than lynch?
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:04 pm
by Titus
In post 6109, Creature wrote: In post 6108, NanceFloor wrote: In post 6102, Creature wrote:
Yes, it says we don't give scum a chance to NK someone after using this power. So it's vengeful.
If scum can take out an obvtown player because of venge and no kill, how is it any worse than voting lynch and scum getting a kill?
Let me see:
If we lynch scum, yeah, they get to kill whoever they want.
If we lynch town, that town will get a shot to venge scum and scum won't be able to kill anyone.
It's somewhat better than lynch?
No. It's not.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:04 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6106, Titus wrote:I'd feel safer quizzing you NF as we'd get you a bulletproof but we butt heads a lot. Second, if RC scum has been derailing, it's confirmed.
We got the info. Then you guys can bring me back for vca.
Quiz
Selectable only with an odd number of players alive.
There will be a 24 commercial break after this, in which the Mafia must choose a player, who will be publicly revealed. After this, the thread will be reopened, and players can choose by majority vote to eliminate someone. Players also must submit a guess as to whether that player is town-aligned or Mafia-aligned within 72 hours.
Once 72 hours pass, all the players' guesses as well as the chosen player's alignment are revealed. If the majority guess is correct, the Mafia cannot kill that Night. In addition, that quizzed player is given a 1-shot bulletproof if they're town, or they die if they're Mafia-aligned.
However, if the guess is wrong, the day immediately ends without any players eliminated, and the Mafia may kill two players that Night, and an additional player (for a total of three kills) if that player was Mafia-aligned.
I’d obviously be fine to be quizzed so long as the majority of players can tell that I’m bleeding obvtown. Problem is that it just makes this game drag out one day longer.
Unless we protect RC the next day or vice-versa, I’m not really sure how this is useful?
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:07 pm
by Titus
In post 6111, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6106, Titus wrote:I'd feel safer quizzing you NF as we'd get you a bulletproof but we butt heads a lot. Second, if RC scum has been derailing, it's confirmed.
We got the info. Then you guys can bring me back for vca.
Quiz
Selectable only with an odd number of players alive.
There will be a 24 commercial break after this, in which the Mafia must choose a player, who will be publicly revealed. After this, the thread will be reopened, and players can choose by majority vote to eliminate someone. Players also must submit a guess as to whether that player is town-aligned or Mafia-aligned within 72 hours.
Once 72 hours pass, all the players' guesses as well as the chosen player's alignment are revealed. If the majority guess is correct, the Mafia cannot kill that Night. In addition, that quizzed player is given a 1-shot bulletproof if they're town, or they die if they're Mafia-aligned.
However, if the guess is wrong, the day immediately ends without any players eliminated, and the Mafia may kill two players that Night, and an additional player (for a total of three kills) if that player was Mafia-aligned.
I’d obviously be fine to be quizzed so long as the majority of players can tell that I’m bleeding obvtown. Problem is that it just makes this game drag out one day longer.
Unless we protect RC the next day or vice-versa, I’m not really sure how this is useful?
1) It makes it negative utility for scum to kill you or RC if you're town. It's a method of protecting one of you forever.
2) If it's wrong, in the case of RC!Mafia, he's confirmed scum and we bit the head off the monster. Expensive but no reason town RC cannot go along.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:08 pm
by Titus
Oh wait ABORT scum pick who gets quizzed
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:09 pm
by Titus
Quiz, if done at all is best done after we get one more scum
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:09 pm
by Time Devil
we can't quiz tomorrow anyway
We should reveal Titus or Creature, someone who may be a deepwolf.
-TL
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:11 pm
by Titus
In post 6115, Time Devil wrote:we can't quiz tomorrow anyway
We should reveal Titus or Creature, someone who may be a deepwolf.
-TL
Reveal nesscessitates NF or RC dying. Everyone thought I was town anyway, not sure what good this would do but I'd hammer it.
Why would you think Creature as a deep wolf?
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:12 pm
by NanceFloor
I would say, it’s probably better to use quiz on me and protect on RC, since I’m far more confident that I get correctly tr over RC, because I’m like 99.9999% sure RC is town here but a lot less sure the majority can see that. I think anyone with a functioning brain can tell I’m bleeding obvtown here.
So, again, what’s the point of dragging this game out any longer than it needs to be?
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:16 pm
by Titus
You know what, let's do Arena.
If town, and not named Creature/Chemist, we just submit Creature Chemist.
This way, we eliminate Creature and Chemist and get a high odds of getting scum or we confirm deep wolf in coalition A.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:17 pm
by Titus
If Creature ir Chemist get selected, they put the other plus a common consensus scumread
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:18 pm
by Time Devil
In post 6116, Titus wrote: In post 6115, Time Devil wrote:we can't quiz tomorrow anyway
We should reveal Titus or Creature, someone who may be a deepwolf.
-TL
Reveal nesscessitates NF or RC dying. Everyone thought I was town anyway, not sure what good this would do but I'd hammer it.
Why would you think Creature as a deep wolf?
Creature is townpinging me despite being a veto survivor.
He's scum until he gets revealed as town.
Titus/RC/NF are good reveal shots.
Tomorrow isn't the day for 1of4.
I'm game for some Arena.
-TL
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:19 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6111, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6106, Titus wrote:I'd feel safer quizzing you NF as we'd get you a bulletproof but we butt heads a lot. Second, if RC scum has been derailing, it's confirmed.
We got the info. Then you guys can bring me back for vca.
Quiz
Selectable only with an odd number of players alive.
There will be a 24 commercial break after this, in which the Mafia must choose a player, who will be publicly revealed. After this, the thread will be reopened, and players can choose by majority vote to eliminate someone. Players also must submit a guess as to whether that player is town-aligned or Mafia-aligned within 72 hours.
Once 72 hours pass, all the players' guesses as well as the chosen player's alignment are revealed. If the majority guess is correct, the Mafia cannot kill that Night. In addition, that quizzed player is given a 1-shot bulletproof if they're town, or they die if they're Mafia-aligned.
However, if the guess is wrong, the day immediately ends without any players eliminated, and the Mafia may kill two players that Night, and an additional player (for a total of three kills) if that player was Mafia-aligned.
I’d obviously be fine to be quizzed so long as the majority of players can tell that I’m bleeding obvtown. Problem is that it just makes this game drag out one day longer.
Unless we protect RC the next day or vice-versa, I’m not really sure how this is useful?
Quiz:
To guess, players privately mesaage the mod with Guess: Town or Guess: Mafia. Retracting guesses is not possible once made.
If a majority vote to eliminate someone is achieved before the 72 hour mark, that player is eliminated and the power is void; the alignment of the chosen player is not revealed and it does not process as a correct/incorrect guess.
If a majority vote is not achieved by deadline, no player will be eliminated.
The worst part is it’s done by pm, and if there is no majority vote, scum gets two free kills, so I’d say very anti-town.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:20 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6115, Time Devil wrote:we can't quiz tomorrow anyway
We should reveal Titus or Creature, someone who may be a deepwolf.
-TL
But scum can’t do reveal w/o getting an NK, which means either RC or me die.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:22 pm
by Titus
In post 6118, Titus wrote:You know what, let's do Arena.
If town, and not named Creature/Chemist, we just submit Creature Chemist.
This way, we eliminate Creature and Chemist and get a high odds of getting scum or we confirm deep wolf in coalition A.
In post 6119, Titus wrote:If Creature ir Chemist get selected, they put the other plus a common consensus scumread
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:22 pm
by NanceFloor
Reveal
Choose by majority vote a player. That player’s alignment will be revealed, and will be immune from kills that Night.