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In post 6123, Titus wrote:

In post 6118, Titus wrote:You know what, let's do Arena.

If town, and not named Creature/Chemist, we just submit Creature Chemist.

This way, we eliminate Creature and Chemist and get a high odds of getting scum or we confirm deep wolf in coalition A.

In post 6119, Titus wrote:If Creature ir Chemist get selected, they put the other plus a common consensus scumread

Arena
The game will have two commercial breaks back-to-back:
During the first commercial break, the Mafia must choose a player to be the gladiator, who will be publically announced.
During the second commercial break, the gladiator must challenge a group of two other players. This group will be publically announced.

I think Arena is a good choice, although I’ll say it again - had you all sheeped my 3-in-failed-coalition in veto, we’d already know this by now.

I think I would definitely vote this power next.

You have my vote.

the gLADiator chooses

In post 6127, chennisden wrote:the gLADiator chooses

And you wouldn't choose Creature/Chemist because?

because id choose creature moongrass or chemist moongrass

lets get this straight

quiz is actually really, really good.

guessing town is always optimal as well.

if you're wrong you trade 3 town for a scum. if you're right you confirm a town, give them BP, w/e

neither trade is particularly bad considering we are 9-3 as for town-scum

In post 6129, chennisden wrote:because id choose creature moongrass or chemist moongrass

In post 6130, chennisden wrote:lets get this straight

quiz is actually really, really good.

This might just be scum in group b.

why is this on me?

why can no one else step up to the fucking plate and win 1 game for me without me literally dragging everyone to the finish line

mafia is completely unfulfilling for me when I don't get townreads when I feel like my play has merited them.

In post 6134, RadiantCowbells wrote:why is this on me?

why can no one else step up to the fucking plate and win 1 game for me without me literally dragging everyone to the finish line

It's not on you. I feel like I had to drag town kicking and screaming yesterday just to protect your whiny ass because I cannot lock town you. You know why? You spend more time obstructing your townread than you do scumhunting.

This whole woe is me, hiding reads nonsense needs to stop. It derails everyone.

to protect me?

In post 6137, RadiantCowbells wrote:to protect me?

Yes. What do you think happens in a lylo situation if you're here and not confirmed town?

your imaginary version of this mafia game seems like fun

obstructing my townreads lol

In post 6140, RadiantCowbells wrote:obstructing my townreads lol

Really? I guess you didn't want your coalition to pass then? Sitting on it was a secret plan to manipulate people into voting my coalition then? Just wtf were you doing?

You are not transparent with your motivations. That's why when you get in the way of smart shit, I wonder your alignment as opposed to NF. I have to. I suppose the doubt may protect you but it is not good in the long run.

ok I'm just going to talk to you as if you're town b/c there's essentially no point in having this conversation otherwise
the #1 reason that i'm demoralized and hate and don't want to play this game is you being here

as soon as you replaced in you pushed an incredibly mediocre veto and as a result prevented town from being able to get a better one
you came into today where I was supposed to actually stretch my wings and hopefully end this shithole of a game, and again you forced a literally 0 information coalition

you got on a wagon with chemistry creature and moongrass which is essentially confirmed to have exactly 2 scum within it and didn't question it because hey it helps YOUR reads

titus i actually don't give a shit about your reads. want to talk about your reads? let's talk about your reads.

you literally gamethrew our offsite game where I called limestone scum
you've mislynched me more times than any other player in the history of this site
you've had generally shitty reads, like, throughout your site run. you say you're good at scum, i say that your pushes are essentially random and it makes you hard to read.

even when i had a lock read on you (unfortunately i don't feel it anymore) i didn't give a shit what you pushed b/c i knew your pushes were meaningless and unreadable
i had a pure tone read on you because trying to go off of your actions was impossible to gamesolve through.

and on top of all this

every time i fight you on a read you throw a giant shitstorm and act like I'm being horrible to you because I'm not playing the game within your narrow confines.
even though with literally 1 historical incident of you being right and me being wrong and, like, a zillion the other way around, you attack me and make me feel like shit for not falling into line

let's be super clear about something: you don't expect me to treat you like an equal. you don't demand respect in the conventional respect.
you demand respect in the sense of deference while claiming to just want equal treatment.

do I do this in mafia sometimes? absolutely. i make a career of it. but why am I calling you out for it?

because I earned it. I forget whether it's counting or not counting this game as a win that I'm 12/4 as town and perfect as scum this year. you can cry that i replaced out a lot but almost all of those replace outs as town were in games that were town victories and in games that I at the time was aware would be town victories. my replace outs are at worst orthogonal to winrates.

town should not have the expectation that my solving efforts play second fiddle to yours when I'm demonstrably better than yours.

and yeah I didn't do much with my coalition. because scum would always be able to brute force yours through if mine was right.
the only way my coalition goes through is if it's wrong and that opens up a whole new vector for scum to attack me


so from here on out we're doing things my way. you agreed you'd stop shitting on solving efforts and do what the townblock said if you got your coalition. you got it.

if you try to push scum wincondition any more I'm going to assume you're scum and kill you for it.

i was forever stuck in a place of blaming myself for our issues because i attacked you a lot in our first game but as time's gone on and I've gotten a clearer sense of what my flaws are and aren't I don't think this is my problem or has really ever been my problem. you've taken advantage of the fact that i'm reluctant to call you out for shit for too long

Well, RC, I'll have words with you about this later or never. I am too sick and I'm afraid that I'll say something that will offend you. I like the fact you can call me out, but that does not mean I'll be a doormat. I value you as a friend. I am doing the best I can with the state I am in.

I did promise NF that I'd do what she wanted. That doesn't mean I'd be silent about figuring out the correct play. Once I have, I'll shut up. At that point, scum are forever boxed in anyway.

your being sick was a significant contributing factor in me not playing this day phase instead of fighting you on it.

especially when the conftown gave no sign that they actually supported anything I was doing.

i already know what succinct's response is going to be and I'm already getting mad about it.

i've played this game too long

In post 6145, RadiantCowbells wrote:your being sick was a significant contributing factor in me not playing this day phase instead of fighting you on it.

especially when the conftown gave no sign that they actually supported anything I was doing.

I would have done the coalition you wanted - substitute Creature for Chenn but the mod, for some reason ignored my extension request. :/

Anyway, guys please don’t fight, that makes this game even more unbearable than it already is. :/

I can't fight RC. I'm already fighting my mind, my body, my life and my other games. I appreciate RC being so open but I am not in the same emotional place to listen. I got us through the point of failure so we should be fine.